Quirky Xerus 8.6 (Aug. 16), Beaver 8.7.1 (Sept. 21), 2018

[ETP]

Hi Barry,

Sorry to harp on about fonts but I can confim that the font display issues can be toggled on and off by
reverting to the Nimbus mono font. They do not appear with the additional DejaVu Sans Mono font that I installed
to combat the issue.

Ideally monospace fonts should be used in terminal emulators. Nimbus is possibly a problem because it is a PS
font as opposed to a mono TTF.

Having said that, you can use non monospace fonts but the results are unpredictable.

DejaVu Sans Mono has the following advantages:

Sans Mono[edit]
The DejaVu Sans Mono typeface in particular is suitable for technical work, as it clearly distinguishes "l" (lowercase L) from "1" (one) and "I" (uppercase i), and "0" (zero) from "O", unlike the more widely available Monotype Courier New.[11] A derivative of Sans Mono, Menlo, is provided by Apple with the Mac OS X 10.6 operating system.

Another good TTF terminal emulator font is DroidSansMono.
Monospace fonts are used in an attempt to make code output more legible.

[linuxcbon]

Quirky Xerus 8.2 for x86_64

- 2 folders are not needed anymore :
/usr/share/midi-icons #symlink
/usr/share/mini-icons #symlink

- another typo found : audio is missing in /etc/gshadow
solution is to add this line "audio:::root,spot,fido" in /etc/gshadow

- in .jwmrc-tray , there are some obsolete entries : blinkydelayed, xtmix, asapmshell...

- where are the 4.11.11 kernel headers ? same as 4.11.9 ?

[don570]

For audio editing using Xerus 8.2 I recommend
audacity-quirky64-2.1.pet
It will even open mp3 files for editing.

Here is a download link....

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 067#961067

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The newest version of Blender (for 3d graphics) ---> 2.78
won't work

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# ./blender
AL lib: (EE) UpdateDeviceParams: Failed to set 44100hz, got 48000hz instead
Error! Blender requires OpenGL 2.1 to run. Try updating your drivers.

It will work for fatdog64 version 710 by James Bond because somehow he
has been able to install OpenGL 2.1

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The old version of blender should work when decompressed in /opt

http://download.blender.org/release/Ble ... 64.tar.bz2

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[don570]

Here is a tip to get the desktop icon to open the root folder
when clicked...
Right click to edit the item... (see image)

for the icon I used ...

/usr/local/apps/ROX-Filer/.DirIcon

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[don570]

I noticed that the libgimp version is old --> version 16
The current version is 22

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I still have the same problem with crond

4 hours difference when setting alarms with pschedule (or pclock)
ie for alarm at 9:30 i set it for 13:30

I use local time because I use Windows computer.


Note that the date --utc command gives the correct value for UTC time.
Everything is fine except for crond
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[tronkel]

Is there a pet for the linux headers for kernel 4.11.11 ?

I need to recompile the wifi modules.
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Life is too short to spend it in front of a computer

[don570]

Is there a pet for the linux headers for kernel 4.11.11 ?

Barry K gives details in his announcement.

To turn Quirky into a complete compiler environment, install just one PET package (334M):
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky ... erus64.pet
Also, kernel patched source is available as a PET (146M):
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky ... atched.pet

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When I tried to download devx file from nluug.com site with windows 7
computer and firefox I got a bad download.
ibiblio.com is OK
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[linuxcbon]

To turn Quirky into a complete compiler environment, install just one PET package (334M):
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky ... erus64.pet
Also, kernel patched source is available as a PET (146M):
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky ... atched.pet

No no ! for some softwares, the kernel sources are not enough, so we need the headers too. I guess they are the same as 4.11.9.

[jcoles]

On an empty machine, I boot from the Quirky 8.2 CD and click Install. I select Full Installation. During the install process, I'm told to either download the ISO file again or tell Quirky where to access it. To follow this process, I must now copy the ISO file to a second media and mount it during the Live CD session. How ridiculous! The Quirky CD was burned from that ISO and all the needed files must be present on it.

The Download option would make sense if the installer was supplied as a small ISO without the rest of the distro files. But to ask users to re-download data they already downloaded is wasteful of their bandwidth.

Other Puppy Linux releases were easy to install. Have I misunderstood something?

[belham2]

On an empty machine, I boot from the Quirky 8.2 CD and click Install. I select Full Installation. During the install process, I'm told to either download the ISO file again or tell Quirky where to access it. To follow this process, I must now copy the ISO file to a second media and mount it during the Live CD session. How ridiculous! The Quirky CD was burned from that ISO and all the needed files must be present on it.

The Download option would make sense if the installer was supplied as a small ISO without the rest of the distro files. But to ask users to re-download data they already downloaded is wasteful of their bandwidth.

Other Puppy Linux releases were easy to install. Have I misunderstood something?

Hi Jocoles,

It has to be asked: did you take 5-10 mins and read this (the below link) first, which are instructions (since the beginning of Quirky a few years ago) on what to exactly do if you are installing Quirky to an internal hard drive?

http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky ... 64-8.2.htm

Barry has mostly designed his Quirkies to be installed on and run on an usb flash, and the preferred way of installing Quirky is his method of dd-ing the downloaded .img file to that said flash drive. If you're going to run the installer from a burned Quirky CD, you've got to prepare the partitions. You can't just plop the Cd in, punch "install", and walk away expecting it to do everything. No pup has ever really done that and/or achieved that.

Thus, if you're going to do a full install to an internal hard drive, read the link above. Or, as an alternative, simply run Quirky 8.2 frugally (like a lot of us do here on murga) to that internal drive, use grub4dos, and also use the savefile Barry incorporates. That savefile (and the frugal install method) is way more than adequate.

[musher0]

Perth xerusQuirky Control?

We have a no-go booting the squirrel from DVD in Gatineau. Sorry.

Screen capture and description are included in the hope they can be of help
in diagnosing what's going wrong.

One other thing I noticed is that this notebook has 4 Gb's of RAM and
zram is only picking up 2.9 Gb's of it. Does this mean anything? Is it
supposed to do it this way?

Will try to boot this definitely quirky squirrel the way belham2
suggested a couple of pages back.

BFN.

[musher0]

A quick one, guys, please?

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ldd --version

for Quirky-8.2 "xerus" is.... (drum roll)

TIA.

[BarryK]

To turn Quirky into a complete compiler environment, install just one PET package (334M):
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky ... erus64.pet
Also, kernel patched source is available as a PET (146M):
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky ... atched.pet

No no ! for some softwares, the kernel sources are not enough, so we need the headers too. I guess they are the same as 4.11.9.

Yeah, the 4.11.9 headers pet is ok.

[BarryK]

On an empty machine, I boot from the Quirky 8.2 CD and click Install. I select Full Installation. During the install process, I'm told to either download the ISO file again or tell Quirky where to access it. To follow this process, I must now copy the ISO file to a second media and mount it during the Live CD session. How ridiculous! The Quirky CD was burned from that ISO and all the needed files must be present on it.

The Download option would make sense if the installer was supplied as a small ISO without the rest of the distro files. But to ask users to re-download data they already downloaded is wasteful of their bandwidth.

You are right of course. I will modify the installer so that it can get the files it needs from the CD.

[BarryK]

Perth xerusQuirky Control?

We have a no-go booting the squirrel from DVD in Gatineau. Sorry.

Screen capture and description are included in the hope they can be of help
in diagnosing what's going wrong.

One other thing I noticed is that this notebook has 4 Gb's of RAM and
zram is only picking up 2.9 Gb's of it. Does this mean anything? Is it
supposed to do it this way?

Will try to boot this definitely quirky squirrel the way belham2
suggested a couple of pages back.

BFN.

It was unable to read from the dvd. Is it an internal dvd drive? What kind of CPU does the PC have?

[musher0]

Perth xerusQuirky Control?

We have a no-go booting the squirrel from DVD in Gatineau. Sorry.

Screen capture and description are included in the hope they can be of help
in diagnosing what's going wrong.

One other thing I noticed is that this notebook has 4 Gb's of RAM and
zram is only picking up 2.9 Gb's of it. Does this mean anything? Is it
supposed to do it this way?

Will try to boot this definitely quirky squirrel the way belham2
suggested a couple of pages back.

BFN.

It was unable to read from the dvd. Is it an internal dvd drive? What kind of CPU does the PC have?

Thanks for your reply.

The top of my lshw list:

H/W path Device Class Description
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system HP Compaq 6715b (RK156AV) (RK156AV)
/0 bus 30C2
/0/0 memory 128KiB BIOS
/0/4 processor AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-52
/0/4/5 memory 128KiB L1 cache
/0/4/6 memory 512KiB L2 cache
/0/a memory 4GiB System Memory
/0/a/0 memory 2GiB SODIMM DDR2 Synchronous 667 MHz (1,5 ns)
/0/a/1 memory 2GiB SODIMM DDR2 Synchronous 667 MHz (1,5 ns)

I tried to boot the DVD from an external Toshiba DVD reader/burner.
Will retry from the internal CD/DVD reader.

BFN.

[musher0]

Hello Barry and all.

Booting from internal DVD reader, I managed to boot and create a xerus
Quirky system on an 8G Lexar thumb drive as sdc1 and 2.

Problem now is that the BIOS on this old HP notebook refuses to display
"boot from USB thumb drive". I better laugh at myself since the hardware is
already laughing at me!!!

BFN.

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Note -- I will report on the DPupStretch thread that IT doesn't register the
existence of a dvd drive as sr1 (with a proper ISO-9660 DVD in it, too!)

[Sage]

Glad to see BK's reasonable response to jcoles.
All very well for the world's rich kids to rave about their multicore, USB uefi-booting over-subscribed grossly-mem'ed shiny kit, but :
- RoW still runs on modest single-core, BIOS-loading, couple of Mb or less machinery, mainly 32bit.
- Some of us choose to run Puppy on on old kit, not least because it started out to be lo-resource, fast minimalist offering.
- In consideration of foregoing, the power of Puppy, not least for diagnosis and fixing errant HW, lies in it's speed and universality of application. Guessing, the majority of machines turned in for fault correction can't or won't boot from a .img/USB/w.h.y. and my experience is that (even well-heeled) operators generally do not possess external CD/DVD drives, either.
Summarising, suppose it all adds up to a call for a slimmed down, 32bit, CD .iso, which is, of course, entirely suitable for all 64bit processors, ARM-excluded. Notwithstanding, for a fellow retiree, BK is remarkably productive, so maybe he can lean on some of his equally talented fellow countrymen to undertake a complementary offering along the above lines, preferable simultaneously or shortly after his releases?

[lp-dolittle]

Thank you Barry very much for Quirky Xerus64 8.2 final!

unfortunately, Intel graphics chipsets on some laptops (e.g. Dell Latitude 6500) seem to cause similar problems as I was faced with when I tried to permanently set up Swiss German keyboard layout using Easy Linux 0.2 pre-alpha (see post from May 20th 2017 in the Easy Linux thread).

Not only the setting itself proves to be 'quirky', but every finally successful configuration is spontaneously reset to the US layout after a restart of X, even if previously saved!
Loading of the intel-gpu-tools pet did not help.

On a Dell Vostro 1730 (NVIDIA VGA controller) the keyboard layout setting works fine

how to amend this issue?

[tronkel]

Thanks dom570 that worked OK.
If anyone else has a problem with the Realtek rtl8723be wifi module here is a solution.

There appears to be a bug with the kernel module in the generic linux kernel in that it defaults to the wrong antenna in this new-fangled wifi/bluetooth card as supplied in my HP laptop. It defaults to the bluetooth antenna instead of the wifi antenna - resulting in a very poor wifi signal. Here's what to do.

Go here and download the ZIP file that contains the patched modules.
https://github.com/lwfinger/rtlwifi_new
then unzip the file.

With the appropriate kernel source pet installed, open the unzipped folder and open a terminal there. Then do:
make clean
make
make install

If successfully compiled you should then see a SUCCESS message

You also need to add this to your rtl8723be file in /etc/modprobe.d:

options rtl8723be fwlps=N ips=N swlps=N swenc=Y disable_watchdog=1 ant_sel=2

The ant_sel argument can be changed to 1 instead of 2 if necessary
Then reboot the computer.

If you ever update the kernel, you may need to repeat this process.