App windows won't fill screen in tahr 605 (Realy Solved)

[belham2]

...If its not the hardware driver what else could it be.

My guess is a setting in either Pale Moon or Puppy. I googled 'pale moon browser' and found there's a forum with a help section for Linux. You might find an answer there.

Slight additional problem, vlc does exactly the same thing as palemoon, lack of size.

Well, there's the smoking gun. This is not a Palemoon problem> I suspect you've got palemoon, in its content settings, to open either VLC itself and/or the vlc plugin to play any media streams. In VLC itself, it is detecting your hardware, and sees that it is a TV it is hooked to, and is thus defaulting to what it thinks is the correct size. If this is all true, you fix this by going into VLC itself (open it without playing anything), go into its settings, and get it off the HDMI mode and onto a 1900x1080 or 1600x1200 or 1366x768 (or whatever you native screen size is). It would help if you looked in your /ETC/X11/xorg.conf file and see what exact screen settings are being used. Input that into VLC. Then, logout of your OS and back in, and see if that doesn't help.

Smacking the F11 button is going to do nothing when it comes to VLC if VLC is set a certain way.

[bigpup]

Try this:
In Palemoon
Tools>Add-ons>Appearance

Make sure it is using the default theme.

[number77]

Sorry to confuse the problem but Its not only palemoon and vlc lacking size its everything: mpaint, abi word processor in fact all programs. Desktop is full screen, all else not.
Its a new pc and install so I didn't notice.
And yes its using default theme.
xorg.conf says its 1900x1080

[bigpup]

So, we are back to the widows size settings.

Those size settings not working?

On a very new install, most windows do not open full size.
However, sizing the window should be as simple as selecting a size option.

[rcrsn51]

Run the command: xrandr

I'm guessing that X is confused by the HDMI video output.

[number77]

Run the command: xrandr

I'm guessing that X is confused by the HDMI video output.

xrandr says hdmi2 connected 1920x1080+0+0

[bigpup]

For any window.

Are any of the change size options working???????????

[number77]

There are many modes but all lower than the 1920x1080.

[bigpup]

Sorry to confuse the problem but Its not only palemoon and vlc lacking size its everything: mpaint, abi word processor in fact all programs. Desktop is full screen, all else not.

For any window.

Are any of the change size options working???????????

We could help you if you would answer the questions!!!

If you cannot use the program window size options, we need to know that!!

Again these options.

[belham2]

I know this is radical, but this point, I am all for blowing away all xorg-related stuff in your Tahr, 77, and then re-installing it alll over again via booting a Tahr live-distro

[number77]

For any window.

Are any of the change size options working???????????

None to increase the size.

[number77]

Just loaded ubuntu 16.04 on to a spare hard drive and everything plays full screen on the hdmi output. Vlc too small or full screen like it does in xp.
Pity they are both bloatware, ubuntu is very large.

[number77]

I know this is radical, but this point, I am all for blowing away all xorg-related stuff in your Tahr, 77, and then re-installing it alll over again via booting a Tahr live-distro

Tried that and it makes no difference.

[bigpup]

I have tahr605 frugal

If you boot not using the save.

Will the windows now resize??

If yes.
The save is bad or corrupted.

If no.

If at all possible, reformat the partition you are installing on.

Do a fresh clean install of Tahrpup 6.0.5 and start over fresh.

There is a chance the download of the Tahrpup 6.0.5 iso is bad. Even if it seemed to install OK.

[Flash]

May I suggest that you first boot from a Tahrpup 605 CD, with the puppy pfix=ram boot option to bypass whatever's on the hard disk (except a swap partition if you have one; Puppy always looks for swap and uses it if it finds it), then install Pale Moon to see if the problem occurs? If it doesn't, follow bigpup's advice.

[number77]

I always check md5 with download and written cd. I booted from cd, puppy pfix=ram, and palemoon was small size. The only way to fill the screen is: go to rhs top square and reduce the window, then bottom rhs and drag the arrow and it will fill the screen. Any video content played is the small size again.
Vlc will fill the screen if the arrow in the bottom rh corner is dragged and videos play full screen.
This is the same with the installed tahr605 on hdd and 64 bit tahr on live cd.

[belham2]

This is just a shot in the dark, but it's based off miserable problems I had from playing with Integrated Tv/Monitors all these years:

Could the actual graphics display command of the tv/monitor be overriding anything that Tahr (or any pup, for that matter) is showing/sending to it? I had (still have, actually) a Panasonic 40" 2005 plasma that has a display/grpahics mind completely of its own thinking, and tells me in its own silent way to go screw myself when I try to run various linux OSes on it. I tell it 1900x1080, it say "up yours" and displays 1366x768. Or I tell it to display 1600x1200, it will show 1900x1200. Go ruminate on that for a moment. Personally, I think the thing tried out for a cameo spot in Transformers I

I mean, number77, is there a puppy OS----any puppy OS----in existence, other than Tahr, that works completely flawlessly on this hdmi tv/monitor of yours? Has this been tested, or tried?

We squirrels might all just be chasing a nut (problem) that has actually been buried under 'another' tree by a nefarious, devil magpie

[Flash]

If the CD still does the same thing, then we've traced the problem back to the original iso and it seems to me nothing will be gained by reinstalling anything from it. Other than that, I got nothing.

Any ideas, bigpup? Anyone?

Maybe, as Belham2 suggests, try some different Puppys (booted from CD with puppy pfix=ram) and see if Pale Moon works right in any of them.

[number77]

This is just a shot in the dark, but it's based off miserable problems I had from playing with Integrated Tv/Monitors all these years:

Could the actual graphics display command of the tv/monitor be overriding anything that Tahr (or any pup, for that matter) is showing/sending to it? I had (still have, actually) a Panasonic 40" 2005 plasma that has a display/grpahics mind completely of its own thinking, and tells me in its own silent way to go screw myself when I try to run various linux OSes on it. I tell it 1900x1080, it say "up yours" and displays 1366x768. Or I tell it to display 1600x1200, it will show 1900x1200. Go ruminate on that for a moment. Personally, I think the thing tried out for a cameo spot in Transformers I

I mean, number77, is there a puppy OS----any puppy OS----in existence, other than Tahr, that works completely flawlessly on this hdmi tv/monitor of yours? Has this been tested, or tried?

We squirrels might all just be chasing a nut (problem) that has actually been buried under 'another' tree by a nefarious, devil magpie

Recently tried slacko, latest, no difference and others which I have forgotten now.
It does look like I will have to use ubuntu for my media server and keep puppy for my main use laptop.

[number77]

Its time to give up mates but thank you very much for all the help on the way. Its the best forum and I do learn in the process even if you do get sick.
Thanks again.
Regards
number77