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jemimah wrote:Could some people with nvidia cards please test this nouveau driver? You need to unblacklist the nouveau kernel module for it to work.

My nvidia is rather old, it's from 2007. Nouveau works fine here. A few notes:
a) Before installing nouveau, Xorg (with nv driver) doesn't work for me. It detects the card, but fails to display (frequency out of range). Xvesa works fine in non-native resolution of my panel.
b) After installing nouveau (and un-blacklist it), text console is gone until I do "modprobe fbcon" (this is a rather old issue and is true for all KMS-based drivers)
c) After installing nouveau, and loading fbcon, if I run Xvesa, I still lose the text console and can't get it back
d) After installing nouveau, and running xorgwizard, everything works fine (xorgwizard detects nouveau directly), and I can run in native resolution.

Conclusion - nouveau works for me. Posting this from the machine running nouveau.

jemimah wrote: Tlchost.

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df -h |egrep '/$|^Filesystem'

Very Odd....that command reports:

Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
unionfs 1009M 2.9M 1006M 1% /

Yet the size of the savefile is 512 MB and it's on a 4 Gig drive?

So the command agrees with the value show in the bar....but that isn't correct.

Thom

jemimah wrote:Edoc,
I'm not sure. It sees my NTFS paritions. Is there some new kind of partition?
Are you sure it sees the disk? Can you mount it and such?
You can do a frugal with Grub4dos without reparitioning.

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Tlchost.

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df -h |egrep '/$|^Filesystem'

I missed this, the ------- and Tlchost tricked me into thinking it was a sig and I was in a rush ... it was dinner call!

Ooops! I didn't misunderstand ... it wasn't for me ... but it helped a little ...

Here is the output (with or without both sda1 and sda2 mounted):

Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
unionfs 1009M 9.3M 1% /

When I use and I can see sda2 and SystemReserve as well as unionfs

Very strange that gparted cannot see them ...

jemimah wrote:

maxpro4u wrote:

Béèm wrote:maxpro4u,
If you mean the weather alert in your last link, it is a flash video as well.
So you should have flashplayer to view it.

I'll have to uninstall mplayer and try to find what I was looking at.

just did a frugal install and here is the site that I was looking for:

http://www.newsnet5.com/subindex/news/news_livestream1

parole pops up and says
A Microsoft Media Server (MMS) protocol source plugin is required to play this stream, but not installed.

Here is the mms plugin.

There's actually quite a few other plugins, but it's mostly for esoteric stuff or stuff already handled by the ffmpeg plugin. So let me know if it asks for any more plugins because it's possible that I missed a few important ones.

installed mms-here is error msg. when I went to the page

Could not initialise Xv output

maxpro4u wrote:

jemimah wrote:

maxpro4u wrote: I'll have to uninstall mplayer and try to find what I was looking at.

just did a frugal install and here is the site that I was looking for:

http://www.newsnet5.com/subindex/news/news_livestream1

parole pops up and says
A Microsoft Media Server (MMS) protocol source plugin is required to play this stream, but not installed.

Here is the mms plugin.

There's actually quite a few other plugins, but it's mostly for esoteric stuff or stuff already handled by the ffmpeg plugin. So let me know if it asks for any more plugins because it's possible that I missed a few important ones.

installed mms-here is error msg. when I went to the page

Could not initialise Xv output

You can make it work by running "parole --xv disable" in the terminal. Although if you video card doesn't support Xv I suspect you'll get better performance from VLC than from Parole.

jamesbond wrote:

jemimah wrote:Could some people with nvidia cards please test this nouveau driver? You need to unblacklist the nouveau kernel module for it to work.

My nvidia is rather old, it's from 2007. Nouveau works fine here. A few notes:
a) Before installing nouveau, Xorg (with nv driver) doesn't work for me. It detects the card, but fails to display (frequency out of range). Xvesa works fine in non-native resolution of my panel.
b) After installing nouveau (and un-blacklist it), text console is gone until I do "modprobe fbcon" (this is a rather old issue and is true for all KMS-based drivers)
c) After installing nouveau, and loading fbcon, if I run Xvesa, I still lose the text console and can't get it back
d) After installing nouveau, and running xorgwizard, everything works fine (xorgwizard detects nouveau directly), and I can run in native resolution.

Conclusion - nouveau works for me. Posting this from the machine running nouveau.

Great! I'll probably add it to the next release then.

Beryl has some problems, mostly relating to it just being outdated. Luckily, I was able to get Compiz to work. It seems a bit slower, but it doesn't have problems with xrandr, and maybe it won't crash or prevent skype from working.

You can test it by downloading the Compiz sfs and the Python sfs.
http://puppeee.com/files/sfs/Compiz-0.8.6.sfs
http://puppeee.com/files/sfs/Python2.6-pygtk.sfs

After installing, use the window manager switcher to swith to Beryl (I will change it to say Compiz for fluppy012).

Jemimah, I am at the point of downloading Fluppy 11 to see whether it runs without the connection problem I have. (did work ok in Fluppy 10)
Would it be worthwhile to wait a bit for Fluppy 12 you mention?

Any new thoughts as to why every filesystem apps *except* gparted can see the NTFS partitions, please?

It appears to be isolated to a USB boot as it sees them fine from a Frugal install.

Thanks!

I noticed that when I switched to fluppy 011 from 010 that the space icon is showing the free space on /dev/sdXY rather than in the flupsave file and ultimately will show free space in all drives, I know I can right click on it or run df -h in console to get the free space in /dev/sdXY/flupsave.2fs but is there a way to change this characteristic so that the icon shows me the space in my flupsave file?

AWESOME = fluppy on my netbook, especially with the ati driver installed for catalyst 10-12. I have used everything from Windows XP with the drivers supplied with the computer (had been oddly the best), Kubuntu (heaviest on battery), EEEbuntu (now Aurora) with gnome, and Arch. with KDE4.

I have been on my Asus EEE 1201T Athon Neo 64 bit for an hour and I still have 80% of my battery.

I might actually get the 4 hours promised by the manufacturer?

jemimah wrote:

maxpro4u wrote:

nooby wrote:Happy New Year to you Jemimah and thanks for Fluppy. Works best out of all puppies that I've tested.

Happy New Year!

Yes, version 10 works great here too! I stopped counting how many puppies I have tried out but I have a whole litter I am tending to at the moment. Do you know how I can assign system sounds like KDE does?

Live long and prosper!

It appears I compiled IceWM without event support. When I build it again, I'll remember to turn it on. So I don't think there is a way to make event sounds work at the moment.

I hope you don't make me wait too long

maxpro4u wrote: I hope you don't make me wait too long

You sound like our son!

He really looks forward to the Fluppy voice greeting him and saying "Goodbye"!

Since I seem to have "stumped the stars" with the dysfunctional gparted via USB boot on the netbook I am casting-about for some hope ...

Just before I shut down for the night I looked at the MSI netbook, sitting there with the USB boot, but unable to proceed to a Frugal boot, and decided to try gparted from Console.

I have no idea what it means but here is the interesting, and perhaps finally-helpful, output:

#gparted
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libparted: 2.3
----------------

/dev/sda contains GPT signatures, indicating it has a GPT table. However, it does not have a valid fake msdos partition table, as it should. Perhaps it was corrupted by a program that does not understand GPT partition tables. Or perhaps you deleted the GPT table, and are now using an msdos partition table. Is this a GPT partition table?

Béèm wrote:Jemimah, I am at the point of downloading Fluppy 11 to see whether it runs without the connection problem I have. (did work ok in Fluppy 10)
Would it be worthwhile to wait a bit for Fluppy 12 you mention?

The release of Fluppy012 is at least a couple weeks away.

bwh1969 wrote:I noticed that when I switched to fluppy 011 from 010 that the space icon is showing the free space on /dev/sdXY rather than in the flupsave file and ultimately will show free space in all drives, I know I can right click on it or run df -h in console to get the free space in /dev/sdXY/flupsave.2fs but is there a way to change this characteristic so that the icon shows me the space in my flupsave file?

AWESOME = fluppy on my netbook, especially with the ati driver installed for catalyst 10-12. I have used everything from Windows XP with the drivers supplied with the computer (had been oddly the best), Kubuntu (heaviest on battery), EEEbuntu (now Aurora) with gnome, and Arch. with KDE4.

I have been on my Asus EEE 1201T Athon Neo 64 bit for an hour and I still have 80% of my battery.

I might actually get the 4 hours promised by the manufacturer?

Don't necessarily believe what Vattery tells you until you've gone through a complete cycle, draining your battery to nearly zero. Powertop is the best way to compare linux distros to each other.

edoc wrote:Since I seem to have "stumped the stars" with the dysfunctional gparted via USB boot on the netbook I am casting-about for some hope ...

Just before I shut down for the night I looked at the MSI netbook, sitting there with the USB boot, but unable to proceed to a Frugal boot, and decided to try gparted from Console.

I have no idea what it means but here is the interesting, and perhaps finally-helpful, output:

#gparted
----------------
libparted: 2.3
----------------

/dev/sda contains GPT signatures, indicating it has a GPT table. However, it does not have a valid fake msdos partition table, as it should. Perhaps it was corrupted by a program that does not understand GPT partition tables. Or perhaps you deleted the GPT table, and are now using an msdos partition table. Is this a GPT partition table?

I guess MS has invented something even the latest Gparted doesn't know about.

jemimah wrote:

edoc wrote:Since I seem to have "stumped the stars" with the dysfunctional gparted via USB boot on the netbook I am casting-about for some hope ...

Just before I shut down for the night I looked at the MSI netbook, sitting there with the USB boot, but unable to proceed to a Frugal boot, and decided to try gparted from Console.

I have no idea what it means but here is the interesting, and perhaps finally-helpful, output:

#gparted
----------------
libparted: 2.3
----------------

/dev/sda contains GPT signatures, indicating it has a GPT table. However, it does not have a valid fake msdos partition table, as it should. Perhaps it was corrupted by a program that does not understand GPT partition tables. Or perhaps you deleted the GPT table, and are now using an msdos partition table. Is this a GPT partition table?

I guess MS has invented something even the latest Gparted doesn't know about.

RATS! I was afraid that you were going to say that.

So at this point Linux users have no way to repartition a MS/NTFS HDD on a netbook when they boot into Linux from a USB stick?

That's sad.

Sure there's a way, but I think it involves deleting the existing partitions.

It's possible that the partition table is actually corrupt, and not intentionally by MS.

Could it be corrupt and the MS version of windows (called "7") still function OK?

What happens if I respond to libparted 2.3 with "Yes"?