dpup-47x for testing

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#161 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Tue 11 Aug 2009, 06:00

gposil wrote:ttuuxxx,

Kernel for dpup is here

http://www.gposil.com/test/woof-alpha9/ ... pup.tar.gz

yes thats the compiled kernel without any dev files for compiling, I need the headers, for compiling

ttuuxxx

gposil · #162 Post by **gposil** » Tue 11 Aug 2009, 06:16

Barry had them somewhere...i'll try to find them...

smil99 · #163 Post by **smil99** » Tue 11 Aug 2009, 06:25

Hi Gposil
Have you considered using woof-20090717 build system to build dpup instead of woof-alpha9? The former seems to address most of the issues of the latter. Although the recent woof is woof-6AUG09, most of pet packages updates done by Barry are not yet uploaded by him and therefore not suitable at the moment.

More grease to your elbows.

smil99.

gposil · #164 Post by **gposil** » Tue 11 Aug 2009, 07:14

In a word no, I haven't considered it at all...not changing horses midstream...besides have updated 476 build to be inline with Barry's changes...

#165 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Tue 11 Aug 2009, 07:19

Hi Gposil I was wondering if you knew of a install script that could install compiled packages into like /root/compiled with the directories.
Here's a example if I compile coreutils and the type new2dir make install, well since its part of the default backend and the system depends on it, It crashes the system. But if I had a script like install2 so when I'm finished compiling coreutils I could type new2dir make install2 then the script would run and the output would land in root/compiled then I just would have to rename it and run new2dir, also would be handy for things like testing abiword etc.
ttuuxxx

gposil · #166 Post by **gposil** » Tue 11 Aug 2009, 07:28

You mean fakeroot...

gposil · #167 Post by **gposil** » Tue 11 Aug 2009, 07:35

`make install DESTDIR="/home/puppy/fakeroot/"`

or whatever destination you want to send it to

gposil · #168 Post by **gposil** » Tue 11 Aug 2009, 07:40

All i've found so far is my kernel source unpatched for 2.6.27.4

http://www.gposil.com/test/woof-alpha9/ ... .4.tar.bz2

#169 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Tue 11 Aug 2009, 07:44

Well I compiled fake root thanks for the tips

fakeroot-1.12.5-i386|fakeroot|1.12.5-i386||BuildingBlock|156K|pet_packages-5|fakeroot-1.12.5-i386.pet||fake root|debian|lenny|5|

about 2 years back Mu told me about a application that monitors systems/applications for errors, I compiled it at the time but forget what it was called I only used it once:) but it worked. That would be perfect for figuring out the abiword error.
hmmmm its thundering outside better make a pupsave just in case of power failure.

ttuuxxx

gposil · #170 Post by **gposil** » Tue 11 Aug 2009, 08:48

This Abiword problem is curious, I just reburnt 476d with all the updates we've done and Abiword performs normally, runs from menu...no problems...

gposil · #171 Post by **gposil** » Tue 11 Aug 2009, 08:53

Ok galculator runs fine from menu...but if I run it from console to see if there are any errors...this is what we get.

# galculator

(galculator:25899): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: g_object_ref: assertion `G_IS_OBJECT (object)' failed

(galculator:25899): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_set_icon_list: assertion `GDK_IS_PIXBUF (pixbuf)' failed

(galculator:25899): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_width: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

(galculator:25899): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_get_height: assertion `pixbuf != NULL' failed

It still works fine and haven't crashed it but have to track down the cause...any clues

#172 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Tue 11 Aug 2009, 09:18

gposil wrote:Ok galculator runs fine from menu...but if I run it from console to see if there are any errors...this is what we get.

It still works fine and haven't crashed it but have to track down the cause...any clues

well when dave mentioned that it had errors when he ran it via the command line, I went and tried it also, and then I figured why not compile gtk+-2.17.6, glib-2.21.4 and see if that would change anything, and then I tried it and it had the same errors, then I recompiled and it had the same errors. So it might be even deeper than that, could be the deps for those libs that are at fault.

So If you have to go that far back in the deps, Then I would say almost better to make a version without all the gnome stuff, also I see you have /usr/lib/libgtkmm-2.4.so.1.0.30 why the mm apps? thats usually a repo item and gparted is usually compiled statically and the large mm libs aren't needed in the distro. What application is using mm ?
ttuuxxx

gposil · #173 Post by **gposil** » Tue 11 Aug 2009, 09:30

Forgot to mention...the new 476d i'm running now has Barry's updated Package Manager and the new dir2pet and new2dir scripts, so it is compatible with 430 in packaging terms and the database entries it produces...

I'll upload 476d-rejigged tonight my time...i'll upload the delta file also.

gposil · #174 Post by **gposil** » Tue 11 Aug 2009, 09:35

I tried galculator on my copies of debian lenny and ubuntu jaunty, and guess what, it does the same thing...not our fault...could just be sloppy programming, or all three distros have the same problem....

As to gtkmm, I put them in originally when i was compiling something that needed them...forgot to take them out...oops

#175 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Tue 11 Aug 2009, 09:44

just had a good look at the libs, boy is there ever a lot of new ones compared to puppy 4 series, so much would have to be removed to get it back to 100 MB
but seriously the size it is now with no real new features over 4.22 shows how its about 30% bloated with extra libs due to it use debian libs. So what do you want to do. Rip this sucker apart and compile a new backend without the extra libs?
ttuuxxx

gposil · #176 Post by **gposil** » Tue 11 Aug 2009, 10:00

I think we'll have to...before it get out of hand...i'm going to go through the libraries tonight and see what we can ditch...then if that doesn't pare out enough...rip it apart.

gposil · #177 Post by **gposil** » Tue 11 Aug 2009, 10:08

I just had a look at gparted, it's not compiled statically...that's why gtkmm is there...I must have used the debian version instead of the puppy version in the woof build specs...that's easily fixed...

#178 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Tue 11 Aug 2009, 10:31

gposil wrote:I think we'll have to...before it get out of hand...i'm going to go through the libraries tonight and see what we can ditch...then if that doesn't pare out enough...rip it apart.

as long as the kernel and xorg are puppy based and hopefully glibc then it shouldn't be all that bad. I would keep dbus, I just checked and it isn't part of the extra gnome libs so thats good, we need the dbus for Firefox 3.5

also if we don't get rid of it now, and we start compiling, we would be stuck either addidng the deleted libs or recompiling everything

do you have a list of the debian apps installed in dbup?
If so I could recompile them all. Without the extra deps, just delete the extra usr/includes usr/lib package configs and if any issues then borrow the includes from 4.2, I think 4.22 might be on the bloated side also for libs, also do we really need vala and libmysqlclient_r.so.15.0.0 X2, thats about 5MB
libspreadsheet is 2.8MB, if you sort the libs from largest to smallest you'll be amazed with the size, /usr/lib/libgs.so.8.62 <--6.8MB but we can't help that, its ghost script. Really I would also toss abiword, and goffice and gnumeric. The reason why, is that techno made a static 2.5MB version of abiword and it doesn't need goffice and I think there's another small spreadsheet app that barry used in the past that could replace gnumeric, I would go down that path and save about 7MB compressed. really I still think spreadsheet apps shouldn't be mainstream releases, Because they don't get used by everybody, not like a media player or browser and they carry a lot of extra weight
ttuuxxx

#179 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Tue 11 Aug 2009, 10:34

try this version, it should work

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... tkmm-1.pet
ttuuxxx

gposil · #180 Post by **gposil** » Tue 11 Aug 2009, 10:53

here's the debian package list as a text file

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