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Hi MochiMoppel,

Thank you very much for bringing the portable v. 4.3.0.4 and its advantages over other recent versions to my/our attention.

In addition to the relatively fast no-nags load and existing-use profile so that my GB spellchecker is preset - the [Super-]Quick tray [re-]starter (see screen shot) has returned via Tools>Options>Memory> LibreOffice Quickstarter.

My regards

Jasper wrote:Hi MochiMoppel,

Thank you very much for bringing the portable v. 4.3.0.4 and its advantages over other recent versions to my/our attention.

In addition to the relatively fast no-nags load and existing-use profile so that my GB spellchecker is preset - the [Super-]Quick tray [re-]starter (see screen shot) has returned via Tools>Options>Memory> LibreOffice Quickstarter.

My regards

doesn't appear to have any advantages over a pet installation with regards to speed or the quickstarter (tools > options > memory > enable quickstarter). also, libreoffice should use your existing profile for every upgrade in a given series. if you find that's not happening, copy the user folder in /root/.config/libreoffice/4._ over to the new one. 4.3.0 to 4.3.3 shouldn't require that, but i've had to do it for 4.1 to 4.2 and 4.2 to 4.3
(of course not an issue if you don't plan on updating/upgrading).

edit: just timed a pet installation of LibreOffice 4.3.3 on Precise 5.5. full close (no quickstarter or other open document) to default untitled document (i.e. clicking on libreoffice writer icon) 7 seconds. full close to launch of two blank documents via a script (clicking on the script that i normally have in Startup) also 7 seconds. subsequent docs open instantly if blank or close to it. longer documents take somewhat longer, and a view showing multiple pages at once further slows down the process.

Puppus Dogfellow wrote:doesn't appear to have any advantages over a pet installation with regards to speed

If it would it would be quite amazing as the whole portable file has to be shovelled into RAM while a pet installation is fully expanded and ready to run. It doesn't seem to have considerable speed disadvantage though.

MochiMoppel wrote:

Puppus Dogfellow wrote:doesn't appear to have any advantages over a pet installation with regards to speed

If it would it would be quite amazing as the whole portable file has to be shovelled into RAM while a pet installation is fully expanded and ready to run. It doesn't seem to have considerable speed disadvantage though.

haven't done a time comparison, but it seems marginally faster than a gz compressed sfs, which in turn is faster to load than an xz compressed sfs. as i said before, it's an impressive and welcome addition and i wish more software could be offered like this--self contained, complete, etc.

on a related note:

LibreOffice-4.3.4_en-US_xz.pet (218mb)

LibreOffice-4.3.4_en-US_xz.sfs (180mb)


i've decided to forgo the extra round of xz compression because of the load time penalty. perhaps as marginal as the 20 mb savings, but makes sense to me, especially if vicmz continues to offer the even denser version, smaller by the 20 even with the additional language.


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here's a mirror of JustGreg's LibreOffice-4.3.4_64_en-US_xz.sfs for 64 bit pups.

Puppus Dogfellow wrote:here's a mirror of JustGreg's LibreOffice-4.3.4_64_en-US_xz.sfs for 64 bit pups.

Sorry, I updated the first post but I missed that. It's now in the first post.

Puppus Dogfellow wrote: i've decided to forgo the extra round of xz compression because of the load time penalty. perhaps as marginal as the 20 mb savings, but makes sense to me, especially if vicmz continues to offer the even denser version, smaller by the 20 even with the additional language.

Yes, I will. About compression, I had read somewhere in the forum that if you're using an xz-compressed Puppy build (Slacko and Precise PAE versions), you can use either xz- or gz-compressed sfs files, but if you're using a gz-compressed pup (Precise-Retro, Wary) you have to use gz-compressed sfs files, because the pup lacks xz support or because the pup was made for machines that can't handle xz compression properly (too slow).

Applause. It seems both of your arguments (Puppus & Vic) are valid. This is great that you are offering different compression choices. That, in my opinion is the basis of Puppy and Linux, itself. Let the user decide which they choose to add. Personally, I like the version that works quicker but there is also a need to save space, especially with Libre and other large pets/sfs'. Both versions are very compelling for different reasons.

Thank you for the additional options.

Kind regards,

Slavvo67

LibreOffice 4.2.8 fr (PET) and LibreOffice 4.3.4 fr (PET) are now available here :

• http://forum.asri-education.org/viewtop ... f=29&t=216

LibreOffice-4.3.5_en-US_xz.pet (218MB) and LibreOffice-4.3.5_en-US_xz.sfs(179MB)

Thanks, guys. Everything is now in the first page.

Libre Office 4.2.3.3 RoxApp (Portable) for Puppy Slacko with US and UK dictionaries.

Vic / Puppus:

Any updates for those of us that want to stick to the full install?

Thanks!

slavvo67

Hi

I'm quite new to Puppy and have managed to install LibreOffice ok and some Extra Fonts I found at the beginning of this thread, but.. there are still 2 fonts I want.

The fonts I'm looking for as I have to use them a lot are Trebuchet and Calibri. Could anyone tell me where to find and install these please?

I'm using Puppy 6.0 Tahr and LibreOffice 4.3.2.2

Ta

Steve

Calibri and Trebuchet are owned by Microsoft. If you have a relatively recent version of Windows available, you'll probably be able to find them in Windows' fonts directory (\Windows\Fonts).

LibreOffice 4.3.5 fr (PET) is now available here :

• http://forum.asri-education.org/viewtop ... f=29&t=216

SJC wrote:The fonts I'm looking for as I have to use them a lot are Trebuchet and Calibri. Could anyone tell me where to find and install these please?

A Google search shows fonts available all over the place - like here -

http://www.fontpalace.com/font-download/Trebuchet+MS/

http://www.fontpalace.com/font-download/Calibri/

Bob

slavvo67 wrote:Vic / Puppus:

Any updates for those of us that want to stick to the full install?

Thanks!

slavvo67

Release 4.3.6 Week 6 , Feb 2, 2015 - Feb 8, 2015
Release 4.3.7 Week 18 , Apr 27, 2015 - May 3, 2015

Thanks Puppus. Stay warm and dry up there!

LibreOffice 4.4 fresh is now available at the first post or by clicking here:

https://yadi.sk/d/mURc8rkaeLiAD

Learn what's new in the LibreOffice blog.

@BoxR
Thanks for the update!

@SJC
Partial solution: LibreOffice now contains "free fonts Carlito and Caladea to replace proprietary Microsoft C-Fonts Calibri and Cambria, to get rid of font related issues while opening OOXML files" (quoted from the blog link above).

Another option: I don't remeber now but somewhere in the forum there's an application by Shinobar called Winfonts, which looks for the fonts of your Windows install and enables them in Puppy.

vicmz wrote:LibreOffice 4.4 fresh is now available at the first post or by clicking here:

https://yadi.sk/d/mURc8rkaeLiAD

Learn what's new in the LibreOffice blog.

@BoxR
Thanks for the update!

@SJC
Partial solution: LibreOffice now contains "free fonts Carlito and Caladea to replace proprietary Microsoft C-Fonts Calibri and Cambria, to get rid of font related issues while opening OOXML files" (quoted from the blog link above).

Another option: I don't remeber now but somewhere in the forum there's an application by Shinobar called Winfonts, which looks for the fonts of your Windows install and enables them in Puppy.

i've been using mswebfonts_525.pet to get ms fonts on puppy since slacko 5.3.3 or so. i'm having trouble tracking down the original source...


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libreoffice-4.4-en-es-xz.sfs mirrored; here's LibreOffice-4.4.0_en-US_xz.pet (214 mb) and LibreOffice-4.4.0_en-US_xz.sfs(176mb).

Puppus Dogfellow wrote:i've been using mswebfonts_525.pet to get ms fonts on puppy since slacko 5.3.3 or so. i'm having trouble tracking down the original source...

Most of that package originates from Microsoft's "core fonts for the web" package, which was pulled from distribution around 2002. (See this Wikipedia article for more details. Also, found this page while trying to remember the name of the original package and seeing if it could still be obtained from Microsoft's archives, interestingly.)

It also appears to contain the Lucida fonts from Apple, which is strange for a package named "mswebfonts." And one or more other stray fonts, as well.