Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series

[OlddogNewtricks]

Hello again ttuuxxx & Dave, just accessed your site ttuuxxx via Dave's link & unless it's been tinkered with since your last message it worked perfectly for me using firefox in X11.

[Minnesota]

ttuuxxx:

All well here ...how are you feeling... I trust episode is over!

I have referenced this before ... I think this is the correct reference...

tempestuous
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Location: Australia

PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:30 am Post subject: Reply with quote
Zydas ZD1211 wifi devices

Puppy versions 2.12, 2.13, 2.14, 2.15CE, 2.16
contain the opensource zd1211rw driver.

But apparently there is a more recent B version of the Zydas chipset which is not supported by this driver, at least in early kernels, anyway.
So Puppy versions 214R and 214X
contain the zd1211 and zd1211b "Vendor-based community drivers" instead.

The situation becomes more complex, though, since it seems there are some variants of the Zydas chipset ...
possibly the versions released after Atheros bought out Zydas and renamed the chipset "AR5007UG" ...
which won't work with the vendor driver.
So here is the (normal) opensource zd1211rw driver

Once installed, there will now be 2 drivers trying to claim the same device, it may be necessary to unload the one you don't want, before loading the one you do want, like this -
Code:
rmmod zd1211b
modprobe zd1211rw

Now it will be necessary to run the Network Wizard.

Updated with core wifi (ieee80211) modules, July 30 2009.
zd1211rw-k2.6.18.1.pet
Description for Puppy 214R & 214X
pet
Download
Filename zd1211rw-k2.6.18.1.pet
Filesize 69.2 KB
Downloaded 41 Time(s)

Is this what you are looking for. I can also say new 4.xx series has the right driver loaded.. as well as 2.17 If I remember right.. don't think the 214 series ever by default was right.

Busy yesterday with VB... relative "discovered" VB only knows qbasic... bit of shock - "event" programming . Yesterday created ACCESS program of his application, then converted it to run in EXCEL as VB in the background is close. Need to get back to looking in Koffice....and database.

Just a suggestion... you can pick up a USB dongle for around $20.00... or a card....I like the dongles....will give you method to test WIFI. Many of the cheaper ones... especially Airlink and Hawking sticks use zydas chipset.

[sinc]

ttuuxxx, you are so funny taking apart other versions. you must work on a thousand different things everyday. I have no idea how you have time to do it all.

so i am confused now also. whats your plan for now. go back to x9, fix dave's list and release version 11.1... or something like that?

how are the puppies doing?
did you see barry's blog about a smaller gtkhash? something fun to distract you

[davesurrey]

OlddogNewtricks woofed

Hello again ttuuxxx & Dave, just accessed your site ttuuxxx via Dave's link & unless it's been tinkered with since your last message it worked perfectly for me using firefox in X11.

Well I've been out but just came back and tried it again. Still doesn't render correctly. As it's ok in Dillo and Opera 10, all on 214X11, and it does using IE7 and FF 3.0.4 under windows XP and SeaMonkey under ttuuxxx's version of 421 I doubt it's my machine but likely a FF prob. Are you using a frugal install?

Is there some setting that could be causing this? I have java and javascript enabled and also blocking pop-ups enabled.

Cheers
Dave

EDIT:
Forgot to add the screenshots before . Here you go..

[OlddogNewtricks]

Hi again dave, it's a frugal install, no pup_save, nothing installed except my wireless driver. no settings changed on firefox just straight to the forum then ttuuxxx's site via your link followed by a couple of screen grabs with the excellent pupshots.

[James C]

Ttuuxxx's site renders fine w/ FF 3.5.3 in my full install of 2.14 X 11.

[davesurrey]

Ok then it must be my install. Thanks guys.
Dave

[ttuuxxx]

ttuuxxx:
Just a suggestion... you can pick up a USB dongle for around $20.00... or a card....I like the dongles....will give you method to test WIFI. Many of the cheaper ones... especially Airlink and Hawking sticks use zydas chipset.

Hi Minnesota

I have a wireless 4 router and plus 3 new wireless cards collecting dust,lol I have it disabled because I just don't trust the security of wireless, when I first got it, I tested for open connections and found some locally. Basically with my wife's pc being windows, I just don't trust it.

I'm also feeling pretty good now took about 2 weeks to get over it, still not eating spicy food and drinking a lot less coffee, was drinking about 4L of coffee a day. lol now its like 3L of tea, and 1/2L of coffee.
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

ttuuxxx, you are so funny taking apart other versions. you must work on a thousand different things everyday. I have no idea how you have time to do it all.

so i am confused now also. whats your plan for now. go back to x9, fix dave's list and release version 11.1... or something like that?

how are the puppies doing?
did you see barry's blog about a smaller gtkhash? something fun to distract you

Yes back to V9, update less, move forward
The puppies are doing really well and getting very solid.
I read/replied about gtkhash at Barry's blog Thanks for letting me know.
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

Removed, Updated further on

[Minnesota]

Boy download is slow... on 301x1.... 14KB... will kill and try later.... More fun to play with.

Glad you are feeling better.. was on Maalox and coffee for a while years ago.. not a good thing... at all.....

If you have local wifi to look at, it at least will give you an idea in puppy that it works or doesn't work...and the possibility of getting on..... when you kill the CD install from puppy nothing will get on your local network... forget the router... you don't need that (unless you want to test it)....no reason to be connected to the other computer...

And unless you enable the LAN connection, your PUPPY test machine will never see your wife's machine.

Are you hooked to the wife's machine with a cat 5 LAN?

[duh]

Hi ttuuxxxx,
before you leave 214-scene flowwers for you 214 and Barrys 2-218

[MinHundHettePerro]

On mozilla (FF 3.5.2/SM 2b1, synth's 090702-build) rendering images in certain pages in a rather peculiar way.

It seems like (sometimes only parts of) images are randomly overlayed on certain pages, www.ttuuxxx.com is one example of a page that is much more prone to cause this behaviour in Puppy's mozilla browsers than other pages.

I had this issue much more frequently in 4.2.1 during its development, using the built-in SM, even when just browsing this forum. Not only images viewed in the browser, but also bits and pieces from Puppy's "graphics cache" - don't know if there is such a thing, but that's how it seemed.

Haven't noticed this issue in 2.14X up until now when, after reading the posts here, decided to check ttuuxxx' page out. Your page is certainly not the only page that exhibits this beaviour, but the pages that do are rather rare for FF 3.5 and SM 2b.

When I first noticed this strange overlaying of random graphic shrapnel I suspected a full SM/FF cache - cleared it, restarted, but it didn't sort the issue out - then I thought that it might be caused by my, somewhat, resource challenged system - but, then again, I don't get problems of this kind when running FF 3x in the much more resource-hungry XP SP3 on the same machine.

I'll attach a few screen-shots to illustrate what is happening while viewing some pages in general, and specifically www.ttuuxxx.com.

I had, as always, a lot of forum tabs open in FF, checked out ttuuxxx.com, decided to check with SM 2b1 --> first snapshot.
(Ok, I had viewed the page which is the origin of the graphics, in another window, closed at the time of the snapshot).

Closed SM and FF after clearing their respective caches, continued by opening FF 3.5.2, restoring the tabs, and took snapshot 2. Notice, in particular the lower left corner of an already closed geany window I had had open in another virtual desktop !

Third and last snapshot is just to rub it in a bit .

The specific combination of "graphic elements" that compose any given image is rather random, if I scroll the image out of view and the back, there's mostly a new surprise combination .

Sorry for the overly long post, but I think that the issue is more fundamental to the Puppy/mozilla-combo than what could be gathered from the previous posts on this matter above.

As I said before, I do not suffer from this problem very often any longer, some pages out there still stirs FF 3.5 up but, if I want to delve into it I go to ttuuxxx.com .


For those of you that read through this post, all the way down here - Cheers .


hope it's of some value/
MHHP

[clarf]

I can see many Puppy 2 series fans here .

I you want to support 2 series you can register in the the Puppy2 Help Forum!:

http://help.puppy2.org/index.php

[James C]

Posting this from 301 X , it does use more memory than 214 X...but not any worse than the regular releases.

Ttuuxxx's site renders fine from this FF 3.5.3 and I'm running live w/ no save, no tweaks.

Another toy to play with........

[davesurrey]

MHHP:

Thank God for your post. For a while I thought I was going mad. What you describe is exactly what I have reported.

After OlddogNewtricks and JamesC reported no problems with ttuuxxx's site and 214X I did a fair number of tests and eventually, to see if I had a hardware issue, I downloaded another 214X11, used another CD drive, disabled my HDDs, used a new graphics board. swopped out the RAM and even changed the PSU!!!

And I still found problems with 214 and FF3.5, whether from a live CD or a frugal install.

Considering also that Opera 10 and Dillo on the same 214X11 install rendered ok I can't see any way it isn't down to FF3.5 in 214X. I did try F3.0 on the same PC and that was ok.

For me it's not a show stopper but it does seem to be an issue that has had no visibilty so far...and needs it.

Thanks again for your support in helping to bring this to folk's attention.

By the way I have only ever seen this on ttuxxx's site. Can you tell me some others so I can test more.

Thanks
Dave

[MinHundHettePerro]

@davesurrey

As I mentioned in my post, I had much more frequent problems in 4.2.1 using Seamonkey 1.1.x.x than now with FF 3.5.x in 214X. That said, I've encountered this odd browser behaviour in 214X only on rare occasions, apart from checkin' out ttuuxxx' page. Can't remember the other pages that exhibited this oddity, though (they could, possibly, be of a somewhat more obscurer sort but, I honestly don't recall the URLs), - it's been quite a while since I saw this anywhere else than at www.ttu...x.com.
Anyway, sometimes one can encounter a site where it could be desirable to open a few picture links in new tabs/windows, and those images would then look absolutely, randomly corrupted - consisting of bits and pieces from "Puppy's graphic memory cache" - but, when clicked upon with the +shaped pointer to enlarge them, would render properly.

The most interesting thing, I'd say, is that the random pieces that finally make up the image are not only composed of components from FF/SM's cache but, contain elements from Puppy's graphic rendering.

Anyway, 214X is, since long, my main OS, and I encounter fewer, and fewer of these browser image-hiccups.

By the way, I've never seen the Big Bass/Fat Free logo displayed properly on ttuuxxx' page (in Puppy, that is) (I've seen the other ones render properly), only when opened in a new tab/window, and then magnified.


ttuuxxx' FF 3.5's still outclasses, on overall functionality and snappiness, all the puppy browsers I've tried out (built-in or installed later) .

cheers/
MHHP

[davesurrey]

MHHP.
Please don't get me wrong. I am still extremely positive towards 214X and FF.
As I said, I've only seen it on one site and can certainly live with that.
Cheers
Dave

[ttuuxxx]

Well guys I know its off topic but I've been working on 3.0.1X and I managed to get the JWM GTK2 themes working, Thats always been a bit of a issue, JWM gtk1 themes were always working but things like gradient grey never did on 2.14x or 3 series, but with the upgrades etc plus a few changes, I wish they would of had a how to, would of saved time, basically the jwm config packages from series 4.0, plus you need the 4 series fresh menus, not 4.2 because that had extra's, then you need the etc/xdg/templates, put t all together and it works
ttuuxxx

Here's a pic, I added a jwm theme quick launch to the gtk1+2 theme selector.

[MinHundHettePerro]

MHHP.
Please don't get me wrong. I am still extremely positive towards 214X and FF.
As I said, I've only seen it on one site and can certainly live with that.
Cheers
Dave

Yes, me too .
Just trying to provide as many pieces of the puzzle as possible, and maybe someone could spot the solution .

cheers/
MHHP