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#181 Post by rufwoof »

saintless wrote:You are the one who benefits from my work
Nope! I used "your work" for a while before you had one of your tantrums and pulled the plug. 'Your work' as such is unstable (and rides on the back of giants) best deleted as you did and ignored/forgotten.
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#182 Post by saintless »

rufwoof wrote:
saintless wrote:You are the one who benefits from my work
Nope! I used "your work" for a while before you had one of your tantrums and pulled the plug. 'Your work' as such is unstable (and rides on the back of giants) best deleted as you did and ignored/forgotten.
Just to name the last one you use often:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... ce5#949933

You are welcome.

Every DD thread or page or commit started by me shows I ride on the back of giants (Debian and Debian-live teams). I wouldn't hide that for one minute.

Please, dont turn this into a fight. I wrote nothing wrong or false and you know it.

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#183 Post by rufwoof »

saintless wrote:Just to name the last one you use often...
Play with, not use. I use core (pure) Debian as my main boot (frugally booted). But periodically play around with a range of others. I moved over to that due to the instability of DebianDog.
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#184 Post by backi »

Hi rufwoof!
I moved over to that due to the instability of DebianDog.
Could you please elaborate a bit further on this . Would be quite informative and helpful to know about .

Regards !
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#185 Post by rufwoof »

backi wrote:Hi rufwoof!
I moved over to that due to the instability of DebianDog.
Could you please elaborate a bit further on this . Would be quite informative and helpful to know about .

Regards !
Vapourware. Apparently tied to the mental volatility of a single drama queen.
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#186 Post by saintless »

rufwoof wrote:Play with, not use. I use core (pure) Debian as my main boot (frugally booted).
Correction, frugally booted in a very special way. Empty squashfs with all system content in persistence (file, folder or partition). The way I made the very first DebianDog base years ago, booting with persistence read-only most of the time and save on demand when you need. All this discovered or invented and shared by me after exploring the live-boot scripts. I'm sure you know this very well and you have the source inside your version save on demand script changed for live-boot newer version.
Fred gave you the links to this part of my work.

You are welcome one more time.
rufwoof wrote:Vapourware. Apparently tied to the mental volatility of a single drama queen.
Name calling again. Did I ever call you insulting names?
You ride on my back, rufwoof. Shame on you!
This conversation with you really starts to look like troll behaviour. No more answers from me on that subject in this thread.

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#187 Post by rufwoof »

saintless wrote:inside your version save on demand script changed for live-boot newer version.
Don't use that at all now. All pure Debian only. After the plug was pulled on DebianDog I did try various things and had to get into coding things for myself. But settled on pure Debian so as to avoid the need to do and maintain that, as provided by the debian live project/team.

All in filesystem.squashfs except for /boot and /home - which is on a second partition so that changes under /home are preserved (persistent). Plymouth glow graphical boot theme

title Jessie
find --set-root /live/jessieamd64lxde
kernel /vmlinuz boot=live quiet splash
initrd /initrd.img

root that is only ever used at the command prompt level due to the insecurities in X
standard userid that is used as a admin under gui and for access/moving personal files in and out of its secure area
restricted userid that is generally used for browsing/internet (most often used userid).

For kernel updates I just extract the filesystem.squashfs to / and boot as though a full install, apply updates and reform a new filesystem.squashfs

No extra repositories and just use main (no contrib or non-free) ... using the proper Debian repositories

deb http://deb.debian.org/debian jessie main
deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main

In short ... nothing of yours. And I most certainly wouldn't thank you for the headache caused by DebianDog being abandoned.
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#188 Post by saintless »

rufwoof wrote:And I most certainly wouldn't thank you for the headache caused by DebianDog being abandoned.
You are welcome anyway. Headache borns the great ideas. Open source projects come and go and we all step on the shoulders of those before us and move forward and higher. I made sure DebianDog is a self-maintaining system and the review page confirms this:
Bottom Line
The earlier versions of DebianDog work flawlessly...
Fred also agrees there wouldn't be XenialDog without DebianDog.
Even Debian has one more passanger - rufwoof.
Nothing is lost ;)

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#189 Post by fredx181 »

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root@xenial64:~# whereami
root@xenial64:~# You are in the Xenialdog64 thread
root@xenial64:~# whathappened  --help
root@xenial64:~# usage: whathappened [OPTION]
   --got-lost (tell me if someone got lost somehow)
   --off-topic (tell me if there are a lot of off-topic conversations)
root@xenial64:~# whathappened --got-lost --off-topic
root@xenial64:~# Scanning thread, please wait . .
  Results:  
> One or more persons got lost in this thread.
> Detected a lot of off-topic conversations recently
> Advice: Don't take any part in this thread for a while and things will usually get back to normal.
root@xenial64:~#
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#190 Post by saintless »

fredx181 wrote:

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root@xenial64:~# whereami
root@xenial64:~# You are in the Xenialdog64 thread
root@xenial64:~# whathappened  --help
root@xenial64:~# usage: whathappened [OPTION]
   --got-lost (tell me if someone got lost somehow)
   --off-topic (tell me if there are a lot of off-topic conversations)
root@xenial64:~# whathappened --got-lost --off-topic
root@xenial64:~# Scanning thread, please wait . .
  Results:  
> One or more persons got lost in this thread.
> Detected a lot of off-topic conversations recently
> Advice: Don't take any part in this thread for a while and things will usually get back to normal.
root@xenial64:~#
No yad version of this script, Fred? Disappointing...
But fair enough. No more off-topic.

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#191 Post by fredx181 »

No yad version of this script, Fred? Disappointing...
Don't worry, it will come :)
Also I'm working now on a NEAT! tool called "whatami"
It's a work in progress... the purpose is to find out if you are a troll.
Also coming up a WOW! tool "whatishe" it gives advice how to handle trolls etc...
So keep watching this thread!!
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#192 Post by saintless »

WOW... Fred spoke to me...
fredx181 wrote:
No yad version of this script, Fred? Disappointing...
Don't worry, it will come :)
Also I'm working now on a NEAT! tool called "whatami"
It's a work in progress... the purpose is to find out if you are a troll.
Also coming up a WOW! tool "whatishe" it gives advice how to handle trolls etc...
So keep watching this thread!!
I will and I will show you none of the scripts work as expected. As usual ;)

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#193 Post by fredx181 »

Preview of whatishe:
(need to work on some more tips and tricks, but already useful I think)

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root@xenial64:~# whatishe
  Warning: dangerous troll found
> You must absolutely pay NO attention to him!
> You recently DID pay attention to him, NEVER do that anymore.
> Type 'Sorry'
root@xenial64:~# Sorry
  Ok, but don't let it happen again!
root@xenial64:~#
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#194 Post by backi »

Hi fred .....hi Toni....!

Me.... after all those crazy disputes..... being heavily traumatised...... :shock: :shock: :shock: just want to know.... fred ....Toni ..... tell me please ....you both are just kidding... :shock: :shock:

or is this the Overture for another Massacre ?

Regards

:shock: :shock: Traumatised backi :shock: :shock:
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#195 Post by anikin »

removed - wrong thread
Last edited by anikin on Tue 13 Jun 2017, 13:54, edited 1 time in total.
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#196 Post by saintless »

backi wrote:Hi fred .....hi Toni....!

Me.... after all those crazy disputes..... being heavily traumatised...... :shock: :shock: :shock: just want to know.... fred ....Toni ..... tell me please ....you both are just kidding... :shock: :shock:

or is this the Overture for another Massacre ?

Regards

:shock: :shock: Traumatised backi :shock: :shock:
Hope not, backi. I will not really test again any scripts from Fred. Just kidding about that.
Unfortunately rufwoof didn't take my advice here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 7f3#956950
I wrote nothing insulting or not related to Ubuntu/Debian/Xenial and Fred many times stated it is on-topic.

I will not take any part in this further.

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#197 Post by fredx181 »

backi wrote:Hi fred .....hi Toni....!

Me.... after all those crazy disputes..... being heavily traumatised...... :shock: :shock: :shock: just want to know.... fred ....Toni ..... tell me please ....you both are just kidding... :shock: :shock:

or is this the Overture for another Massacre ?

Regards

:shock: :shock: Traumatised backi :shock: :shock:
Sorry Dr. backi, I should have better kept my mouth shut.
Probably there will be no next time, but if there is just write:
hi fred ! SHUTUP
(then I know and will obey your orders, but don't forgot to add some smilies :) )

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#198 Post by stemsee »

The only thing that bothers me here is 'boot time', it really needs to be reduced! I haven't looked into it yet, and when I do I will sort it out ... eventually! Maybe not to everyone's liking, but that doesn't seem to bother me much ... because I am greater than what I do!! Cheers 8)
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#199 Post by saintless »

Just a tip:
Porteus-boot (initrd) loads list of modules blindly no matter if the hardware needs them or not. Removing some of the modules from the list will speed up the boot process a little. Removing the kernel drivers missing in the modprobe command list from initrd will reduce also its size.

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#200 Post by backi »

Hi all !
Hope everyone is fine ......and everything is coming back to normal....

So...... I better now SHUT UP .

Regards !
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