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Posted: **Wed 11 Aug 2010, 21:03**

Lupu 510 frugal with acer timelinex 5820tg using intel graphics and intel driver.. So far I have made Lupu more laptop friendly. CPU freq activated ok. I compiled kernel module to switch my ATI off because it uses almost 50 % power consumption even without using it. It worked. So battery time is almost doubled with that.

Next to get acpi working and battery status, suspend to ram possibly working, would need patching the kernel and compiling it afterwards to get modified acpi.ec loaded.
My previous attempt was not so successful, only console state worked. X didnt start ok. All those KMS and other graphics settings were too redundant in the menuconfig for me.

So devx and kernel sources loaded ok. I have still problem with successful downloading, only every 2. - 3. download MD5 sum is ok.

No complaints but havent used lupu to other things so far.

Great work !!!

Posted: **Wed 11 Aug 2010, 21:10**

Is these good GRUB settings for Lucid 5.1?

Do I need "acpi=noirq" on my laptop any more or is that an artifact of older Puppy problems?

Is "nosmp" still recommended for single-core processors?

I added "pfix=fsck" due to prior concerns with ext2, is there any value-added to using this on an ext3 partition?

Any other recommended GRUB tweaks for Lucid 5.1?

# Linux bootable partition config begins
title Puppy Linux LUPU-510RC Frugal (on /dev/sda2)
root (hd0,1)
kernel (hd0,1)/lupu-510/vmlinuz pfix=fsck PMEDIA=idehd PDEV1=sda2 pupsubdir=lupu-510 acpi=noirq nosmp vga=normal
initrd (hd0,1)/lupu-510/initrd.gz
# Linux bootable partition config ends

Posted: **Wed 11 Aug 2010, 21:13**

playdayz wrote:
Yes!
The "chmod 1777 /tmp" worked from the full install using the iso file;
not from the live cd (sr0) without a save file though.
Fluppy lets me do it from live cd using /dev/sr0.

I don't understand "sticky bit set".

I was able to boot the live CD with pfix=ram and then change the permissions on /tmp. One way to see is to right-click on the /tmp folder in Rox and select Properties. I think the 1 before the 777 sets the sticky bit.

Booted the cd, made /tmp sticky, did the chmod..........it worked.

Posted: **Wed 11 Aug 2010, 21:28**

Any other recommended GRUB tweaks for Lucid 5.1?

Cut from my menu.lst:

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title Lupu510 usb
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies /Lupu510/initrd.gz
  kernel /Lupu510/vmlinuz pmedia=usbflash psubdir=Lupu510 video=640x480 pfix=fsck i915.modeset=1
  initrd /Lupu510/initrd.gz

i915.modeset=1 this is probably not needed with lupu anymore.

Above works for me.

Posted: **Wed 11 Aug 2010, 21:49**

pemasu wrote:

i915.modeset=1 this is probably not needed with lupu anymore.

Above works for me.

Yes; it's included in /etc/modprobe.d/i915.conf.
The 640x480 is necessary for normal font size on shutdown.

This was a fix for problems booting into Xorg.

Posted: **Wed 11 Aug 2010, 22:24**

edoc wrote:Is these good GRUB settings for Lucid 5.1?

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# Linux bootable partition config begins
  title Puppy Linux LUPU-510RC Frugal (on /dev/sda2)
  root (hd0,1)
  kernel (hd0,1)/lupu-510/vmlinuz pfix=fsck PMEDIA=idehd PDEV1=sda2 pupsubdir=lupu-510 acpi=noirq nosmp vga=normal
  initrd (hd0,1)/lupu-510/initrd.gz
  # Linux bootable partition config ends

Because you have a "root" command, you don't need to repeat (hd0,1) in the subsequent lines.

"pupsubdir" should be "psubdir"

Posted: **Wed 11 Aug 2010, 22:55**

Thanks!

I looked in my menu.lst and that pupsubdir error crept in several versions ago -- odd that it didn't cause any obvious problems ... or maybe it explains some things!

"acpi=noirq", "nosmp", and "pfix=fsck" should stay?

Posted: **Wed 11 Aug 2010, 23:02**

Minnesota wrote:Attempting to set up email, see attached.

Has nobody else tested Sylpheed in Lupu?

The first time you run Sylpheed, it creates a mailbox folder called Mail in /root and a hidden .sylpheed-2.0 configuration folder. However, Lupu already contains an old configuration folder. So when you run Sylpheed the first time, it thinks that it is set up correctly. Since its Mail folder does not exist yet, you can't send or receive messages.

Deleting the configuration folder and running Sylpheed again solves the problem.

Posted: **Wed 11 Aug 2010, 23:08**

kilgour wrote:
What happen to fsck?
(LP5.1, LiveCD, pfix=ram,copy)
# fsck
bash: command not found

install the latest from
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/e2fsprogs
then you can fsck

Posted: **Wed 11 Aug 2010, 23:09**

edoc wrote:"acpi=noirq", "nosmp", and "pfix=fsck" should stay?

acpi=noirq - Keep it if a machine needs it to work properly.

nosmp - I never understood the point of this one.

pfix=fsck - A bit of insurance to keep your frugal installs clean.

Posted: **Wed 11 Aug 2010, 23:17**

rcrsn51 wrote:
edoc wrote:"acpi=noirq", "nosmp", and "pfix=fsck" should stay?

> nosmp - I never understood the point of this one.

This was recommended re. something about resources dedicated to a second core when there is only one. Or so I recall.

> pfix=fsck - A bit of insurance to keep your frugal installs clean.

It was said to be needed for ext2, it is still needed for ext3?

Someone mentioned fsck was not in the default Lucid 5.1 distro.

Does that mean that I need to add it or else "pfix=fsck" is doing nothing?

Posted: **Wed 11 Aug 2010, 23:33**

01mick

sat link is data only 256k/256k

I just ran qpets in my 206, getting the following repeated until it times out (only showing start/end instances, they are all the same), I do have browser open and ppm can download the file without problems.

Spider mode enabled. Check if remote file exists.
--2010-08-12 09:20:59-- http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... -2.2.7.pet
Connecting to distro.ibiblio.org|152.46.7.109|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Read error (Connection timed out) in headers.
Retrying
......
Spider mode enabled. Check if remote file exists.
--2010-08-12 09:23:41-- (try:20) http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... -2.2.7.pet
Connecting to distro.ibiblio.org|152.46.7.109|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Read error (Connection timed out) in headers.
Giving up.

regards
scsijon

Posted: **Thu 12 Aug 2010, 01:20**

The GUI just crashed.

I typed "xwin" but it cycled for a minute and then failed.

There was an error message at the top of the text:

"Warning: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf all config files belong into /etc/modprobe.d/"

Only Reboot works.

Once back up I selected the Browser icon (I am using Seamonkey 2.0.6) -- that resulted in everything that was open being restored -- at least everything I remember that was open!

WDYT?

Posted: **Thu 12 Aug 2010, 01:32**

edoc,

I get the same error ms on every boot. Doesn't seem to cause any real problems, and apparently was left over from some Asian code from the grammar.

Doesn't "deprecated config" sound like something always served on holidays but never eaten, like fruitcake?

Perhaps you simply had too many things open at once?

Posted: **Thu 12 Aug 2010, 02:13**

gjuhasz wrote: I think even RC2 is good enough and has enough eye-candy elements to make Linux fans and newbies be happy.
The only issue (for me) is its poor video compatibility.
...
3. Maybe this is for ancient machines, maybe for my 256 MB Toshiba Tecra 8000 only. Mplayer produces blue screen during "playing" most of the streaming codec test files in this collection:

http://www.codectest.com/codectest/stre ... ectest.zip

It is strange that the same Tecra plays most of them well under Wary 030 (there are jerky effects in some cases but at least the screen of mplayer is alive.) Note that I also test Lupu in 256 MB virtual environment (VMware, VirtualBox) and there is no "blue screen" there - so this is not caused by low memory.

Again, this is the only annoying problem - one can ask that "all what elder puppies can play, why the newest 510 cannot"?

I've a question to ask on this--
What video card? (Try

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lspci | grep VGA

in a terminal if you don't know)
Wary uses an older Xorg, which works better with some old cards.
If it's Intel 8xx or 7xx, those are known for trouble with new X versions (including the one Ubuntu 10.04 uses).[/code]

Posted: **Thu 12 Aug 2010, 02:52**

kevin bowers wrote:edoc,

I get the same error ms on every boot. Doesn't seem to cause any real problems, and apparently was left over from some Asian code from the grammar.

Perhaps you simply had too many things open at once?

Naah, I have had 15 Web pages, several E-mails in draft mode, e3, Geany, and OpenOffice documents open all at once in spup 040 with no problem.

I will have to load things up and see if I can make it happen again ... is there a log file somewhere that might capture what causes the crash?

Also, it is very unusual that I cannot get back to the GUI using xwin -- that is new with Lucid 5.1 instead of spup 040.

Posted: **Thu 12 Aug 2010, 03:16**

Since we now have Lucid Puppy 5.1 final, would it be better to start a new thread pertaining to the final release in order to better address any concerns, problems, etc relating to the final release and beyond?

Thanks for all the hard work on part of everyone involved on great distro
yarddog

Posted: **Thu 12 Aug 2010, 11:37**

It started several releases ago but pretty intermittent. So I didn't report.
Now I have it permanently for the moment.

At each connection to the puppy forum I get 'address not found' try again.
I push try again and I get the next post or whatever I did.
Sometimes this permanent and when I look in /etc/resolv.conf the nameserver line has disappeared.
In some cases addidng this line by hand restores the connection and other cases I have to redo a dhcdcp for a lease or even redo the connection through the connection wizard.
I use Simple Network Setup.

This starts to be annoying.

Posted: **Thu 12 Aug 2010, 11:48**

yarddog wrote:Since we now have Lucid Puppy 5.1 final, would it be better to start a new thread pertaining to the final release in order to better address any concerns, problems, etc relating to the final release and beyond?

Thanks for all the hard work on part of everyone involved on great distro
yarddog

There is one at:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=58630

Now all we have to do is get everyone to use it

Posted: **Thu 12 Aug 2010, 12:29**

Béèm wrote:It started several releases ago but pretty intermittent. So I didn't report.
Now I have it permanently for the moment.

At each connection to the puppy forum I get 'address not found' try again.
I push try again and I get the next post or whatever I did.
Sometimes this permanent and when I look in /etc/resolv.conf the nameserver line has disappeared.
In some cases addidng this line by hand restores the connection and other cases I have to redo a dhcdcp for a lease or even redo the connection through the connection wizard.
I use Simple Network Setup.

This starts to be annoying.

To be followed up in the special thread

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