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Posted: **Fri 24 Feb 2017, 14:46**

Another observation is .....when starting fresh or booting with pfix=ram frugally from Usb-Stick ......If Usb-stick is not mounted .
When executing your script it does not work until Usb-Stick is mounted manually .

Posted: **Fri 24 Feb 2017, 16:37**

backi wrote:Sorry for steeling your precious time nic007 .

But tried with loaded SaveFOLDER at startup .......in this case the "puppyfilesystem" will not be created ....so no adrv.sfs .

Booting without SaveFOLDER loaded .........in this case the "puppyfilesystem" will e created ....so the adrv.sfs .

The directories when you boot with a savefolder and when you boot without savefolder may be different. Booting with a savefile/folder may give you a mnt/home directory. Check and change the script accordingly. Your stck must be mounted because you are writing data to the stick.

Posted: **Fri 24 Feb 2017, 17:37**

When booting with Savefolder loaded at bootup
I replaced in my case sdb1 with home in the script ....now adrive will be created .
But looking in puppyfilesystem Folder in Usb Stick alot of Directories are missing opt for example
Creating the adrive is happening after modifying my script but a lot of .....Rebooted
but it seems it will not work correctly . Seems it will not work with loaded Savefolder as a kind of saving or remastering the whole running System into an adrive .
Maybe one have to copy Folder root and Folder etc into tmp as in the remaster procedure .

Posted: **Fri 24 Feb 2017, 17:57**

backi wrote:When booting with Savefolder loaded at bootup
I replaced in my case sdb1 with home in the script ....now adrive will be created .
But looking in puppyfilesystem Folder in Usb Stick alot of Directories are missing opt for example
Creating the adrive is happening after modifying my script but a lot of .....Rebooted
but it seems it will not work correctly . Seems it will not work with loaded Savefolder as a kind of saving or remastering the whole running System into an adrive .
Maybe one have to copy Folder root and Folder etc into tmp as in the remaster procedure .

How did you install your programs, are you using any sfs-addons? This script only includes stuff that were installed to savefile/savefolder

Posted: **Fri 24 Feb 2017, 19:07**

Thanks for your support .
But for me it seems not to work with a Savefolder loaded at Startup.....for what reason ever .In the moment i find it to complicated to research deeper into this type of Replacement for a Savefolder .
On the first sight looked like an easy alternative for a Save/folder/file... but seems not to work the way i expected ....its not your fault .

I myself don`t have any Problems with Save File/Folder ......nevertheless ....find your script quite interesting .

Posted: **Fri 24 Feb 2017, 19:20**

backi wrote:title Puppy tahr 6.0.6 (sdb1)
find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /puppy_tahr_6.0.6.sfs
kernel /vmlinuz pmedia=usbflash pfix=fsck,nocopy
initrd /initrd.gz

I'm surprised that the script works reliably with "pfix=nocopy" in the boot entry.

Usually the "init" script copies these sfs files into a tmpfs in ram and uses those. So the adrv on disk is not in use and so can be deleted and recreated, and the affect is not seen until the next boot.

But, with "pfix=nocopy", these sfs files are not copied and the ones on disk are mounted and active in the aufs stack. So I'm surprised that deleting and re-creating such a file works reliably.

But hey, if it works for you, go for it.

Hmm.., you could be saved by Unix/Linux.
An open file can be "deleted" and the process retains access to the file via it's "inode" until it closes the file, only then does the file actually go away.
So perhaps the aufs stack continues to use the "deleted" copy of the adrv file.

gyro

Posted: **Fri 24 Feb 2017, 19:22**

Hi all, following my experience about:

Puppy booted from USB key with savefolder:

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#!/bin/sh
mkdir /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem
cp -a /initrd/pup_ro1/* /initrd/pup_rw/*  /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem
wait
cd /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem
rm -r ./tmp ./mnt ./initrd ./sys ./root/.cache/* ./root/.thumbnails/* ./root/.Trash/* ./root/.XLOADED ./var/log
wait
Xdialog -center -msgbox "Puppyfilesystem ready.  Check and edit if needed.  Press OK to proceed" 0 0
rm /mnt/home/tahr64/adrv_tahr64_6.0.5.sfs
mksquashfs /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem /mnt/home/tahr64/adrv_tahr64_6.0.5.sfs -comp xz
rm -r /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem

exit

"adrv" created successfully, in my case 18MB in 10 seconds.

Rebooted and reloaded puppy with pfix=ram, during boot "adrv" loaded with success, mounted sdb1 (my USB stick) and renamed my savefolder "1tahr64save".

At this point I changed again nic007's script in order to save any changes.

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#!/bin/sh
mkdir /mnt/sdb1/puppyfilesystem
cp -a /initrd/pup_a/* /initrd/pup_rw/*  /mnt/sdb1/puppyfilesystem
wait
cd /mnt/sdb1/puppyfilesystem
rm -r ./tmp ./mnt ./initrd ./sys ./root/.cache/* ./root/.thumbnails/* ./root/.Trash/* ./root/.XLOADED ./var/log
wait
Xdialog -center -msgbox "Puppyfilesystem ready.  Check and edit if needed.  Press OK to proceed" 0 0
rm /mnt/sdb1/tahr64/adrv_tahr64_6.0.5.sfs
mksquashfs /mnt/sdb1/puppyfilesystem /mnt/sdb1/tahr64/adrv_tahr64_6.0.5.sfs -comp xz
rm -r /mnt/sdb1/puppyfilesystem

exit

The only drawback with this method is that you have to load on the fly your .sfs file and configuring them each time.

Thank's for your work nic007 much appreciated.

Posted: **Fri 24 Feb 2017, 19:32**

backi wrote:Thanks for your support .
But for me it seems not to work with a Savefolder loaded at Startup.....for what reason ever .In the moment i find it to complicated to research deeper into this type of Replacement for a Savefolder .
On the first sight looked like an easy alternative for a Save/folder/file... but seems not to work the way i expected ....its not your fault .

I myself don`t have any Problems with Save File/Folder ......nevertheless ....find your script quite interesting .

Do a proper remaster and then use the script from then on to record your changes in future. The other thing is that this should definitely work with a current savefile, perhaps the same can not be achieved with a savefolder (although I can not see why not). This is not a remaster script as such that's why I asked the questions. I don't install anything but use sfs add-ons instead. So I have the base sfs, sfs-addons (additional programs) which gets loaded automatically at boot and then my adrv with personal changes (about 5MB). Personally I hate big savefile/folders but some like them. Works a treat for me but each to their own.

BTW - I seem to remember from long ago when I still did remasters that somehow /opt (normally the java installation) does not copy from /initrd/pup_rw so you will have to copy it from the main running system located at /opt if you want to save that data from your savefolder to your adrv. You only need to do this once of course.

Posted: **Fri 24 Feb 2017, 21:14**

corvus wrote:Hi all, following my experience about:

Puppy booted from USB key with savefolder:
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#!/bin/sh
mkdir /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem
cp -a /initrd/pup_ro1/* /initrd/pup_rw/*  /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem
wait
cd /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem
rm -r ./tmp ./mnt ./initrd ./sys ./root/.cache/* ./root/.thumbnails/* ./root/.Trash/* ./root/.XLOADED ./var/log
wait
Xdialog -center -msgbox "Puppyfilesystem ready.  Check and edit if needed.  Press OK to proceed" 0 0
rm /mnt/home/tahr64/adrv_tahr64_6.0.5.sfs
mksquashfs /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem /mnt/home/tahr64/adrv_tahr64_6.0.5.sfs -comp xz
rm -r /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem

exit
"adrv" created successfully, in my case 18MB in 10 seconds.

Rebooted and reloaded puppy with pfix=ram, during boot "adrv" loaded with success, mounted sdb1 (my USB stick) and renamed my savefolder "1tahr64save".

At this point I changed again nic007's script in order to save any changes.
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#!/bin/sh
mkdir /mnt/sdb1/puppyfilesystem
cp -a /initrd/pup_a/* /initrd/pup_rw/*  /mnt/sdb1/puppyfilesystem
wait
cd /mnt/sdb1/puppyfilesystem
rm -r ./tmp ./mnt ./initrd ./sys ./root/.cache/* ./root/.thumbnails/* ./root/.Trash/* ./root/.XLOADED ./var/log
wait
Xdialog -center -msgbox "Puppyfilesystem ready.  Check and edit if needed.  Press OK to proceed" 0 0
rm /mnt/sdb1/tahr64/adrv_tahr64_6.0.5.sfs
mksquashfs /mnt/sdb1/puppyfilesystem /mnt/sdb1/tahr64/adrv_tahr64_6.0.5.sfs -comp xz
rm -r /mnt/sdb1/puppyfilesystem

exit
The only drawback with this method is that you have to load on the fly your .sfs file and configuring them each time.

Thank's for your work nic007 much appreciated.

Put your sfs-addons in your ydrv like I do and/or add to your zdrv so they are loaded automatically at startup OR load them automatically by way of including a command in /etc/rc.d/rc.local.

BTW - Why did you include /initrd/pup_ro1 in your first script?

Posted: **Fri 24 Feb 2017, 23:05**

nic007 wrote:BTW - Why did you include /initrd/pup_ro1 in your first script?

Because I want to include my savefolder stuff in "adrv" and when I run puppy with savefolder /initrd/pup_a/ is only an empty folder as shown in screenshot 1, the savefolder stuff are stored in /initrd/mnt/dev_save/tahr64/tahr64save and /initrd/pup_ro1 is a symlink to that folder as shown in screenshot 2.

Posted: **Fri 24 Feb 2017, 23:45**

corvus wrote:
nic007 wrote:BTW - Why did you include /initrd/pup_ro1 in your first script?
Because I want to include my savefolder stuff in "adrv" and when I run puppy with savefolder /initrd/pup_a/ is only an empty folder as shown in screenshot 1, the savefolder stuff are stored in /initrd/mnt/dev_save/tahr64/tahr64save and /initrd/pup_ro1 is a symlink to that folder as shown in screenshot 2.

Strange. In my Tahr605 /initrd/pup_rw is a symlink to the savefolder. But it worked for you so all well. Did you see my prior post with regards to booting SFS files automatically?

Posted: **Fri 24 Feb 2017, 23:54**

Added another dialog box to script to indicate that operation is completed, see first post.

Posted: **Sat 25 Feb 2017, 00:13**

nic007 wrote: Did you see my prior post with regards to booting SFS files automatically?

Yes I did and I'll try to create an ydrv from the sfs I need although I think it is better to put a command in /etc/rc.d/rc.local, as you suggested, but don't know what command, can you give me some tips?

Thanks in advance.

Best regards.

Posted: **Sat 25 Feb 2017, 05:03**

corvus wrote:
nic007 wrote: Did you see my prior post with regards to booting SFS files automatically?
Yes I did and I'll try to create an ydrv from the sfs I need although I think it is better to put a command in /etc/rc.d/rc.local, as you suggested, but don't know what command, can you give me some tips?

Thanks in advance.

Best regards.

Example:

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sfs_load -c -q /mnt/sda3/Opera11.sfs

You can add several with the same command. If you only have one sfs to load you can just rename it to the name of the ydrv of course and move it to the directory where your other puppy files are located.

Posted: **Sat 25 Feb 2017, 09:26**

Hi corvus !
Tested your script with Savefolder

#!/bin/sh
mkdir /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem
cp -a /initrd/pup_ro1/* /initrd/pup_rw/* /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem
wait
cd /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem
rm -r ./tmp ./mnt ./initrd ./sys ./root/.cache/* ./root/.thumbnails/* ./root/.Trash/* ./root/.XLOADED ./var/log
wait
Xdialog -center -msgbox "Puppyfilesystem ready. Check and edit if needed. Press OK to proceed" 0 0
rm /mnt/home/tahr64/adrv_tahr64_6.0.5.sfs
mksquashfs /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem /mnt/home/tahr64/adrv_tahr64_6.0.5.sfs -comp xz
rm -r /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem

exit

Now works .......with Savefolder loaded .....

Posted: **Sat 25 Feb 2017, 09:41**

backi wrote:Hi corvus !
Tested your script with Savefolder

#!/bin/sh
mkdir /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem
cp -a /initrd/pup_ro1/* /initrd/pup_rw/* /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem
wait
cd /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem
rm -r ./tmp ./mnt ./initrd ./sys ./root/.cache/* ./root/.thumbnails/* ./root/.Trash/* ./root/.XLOADED ./var/log
wait
Xdialog -center -msgbox "Puppyfilesystem ready. Check and edit if needed. Press OK to proceed" 0 0
rm /mnt/home/tahr64/adrv_tahr64_6.0.5.sfs
mksquashfs /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem /mnt/home/tahr64/adrv_tahr64_6.0.5.sfs -comp xz
rm -r /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem

exit
Now works .......with Savefolder loaded .....

Right, tested with a usb drive/ssd card and indeed in this case /initrd/pup_ro1 must be included. I also copied some files to root and noticed that it's recorded in /initrd/pup_ro1 and not in /initrd/pup_rw. The question is now whether it's necessary to also include /initrd/pup_rw when you are running with usbdrive and savefolder/file to capture the contents of the savefile/folder. Can someone test and give us a definite answer so that I can make a few notes accordingly in the first post. Thanks

Edit: I've decided to make one uniform script which will give the desired result and to limit confusion.

Posted: **Sat 25 Feb 2017, 14:34**

backi wrote:Hi corvus !
Tested your script with Savefolder

#!/bin/sh
mkdir /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem
cp -a /initrd/pup_ro1/* /initrd/pup_rw/* /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem
wait
cd /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem
rm -r ./tmp ./mnt ./initrd ./sys ./root/.cache/* ./root/.thumbnails/* ./root/.Trash/* ./root/.XLOADED ./var/log
wait
Xdialog -center -msgbox "Puppyfilesystem ready. Check and edit if needed. Press OK to proceed" 0 0
rm /mnt/home/tahr64/adrv_tahr64_6.0.5.sfs
mksquashfs /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem /mnt/home/tahr64/adrv_tahr64_6.0.5.sfs -comp xz
rm -r /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem

exit
Now works .......with Savefolder loaded .....

I'm glad it works for you but it's not my script, I have only tweaked nic007's script in accordance with what he himself recommended to do on several post.

nic007 wrote:.....
Put your sfs-addons in your ydrv like I do and/or add to your zdrv so they are loaded automatically at startup OR load them automatically by way of including a command in /etc/rc.d/rc.local.
.....

I chose to edit the /etc/rc.d/rc.local file as you suggested me to do. Thanks again nic007 for your tips.

nic007 wrote:.....
The question is now whether it's necessary to also include /initrd/pup_rw when you are running with usbdrive and savefolder/file to capture the contents of the savefile/folder.
......

I think that /initrd/pup_rw contains the changes made during the session, include it or exclude it depends on whether or not you want to save the changes made during the session, and not permanently saved, in the new adrv file.

Regards.

Posted: **Sat 25 Feb 2017, 15:04**

corvus wrote:
backi wrote:Hi corvus !
Tested your script with Savefolder

#!/bin/sh
mkdir /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem
cp -a /initrd/pup_ro1/* /initrd/pup_rw/* /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem
wait
cd /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem
rm -r ./tmp ./mnt ./initrd ./sys ./root/.cache/* ./root/.thumbnails/* ./root/.Trash/* ./root/.XLOADED ./var/log
wait
Xdialog -center -msgbox "Puppyfilesystem ready. Check and edit if needed. Press OK to proceed" 0 0
rm /mnt/home/tahr64/adrv_tahr64_6.0.5.sfs
mksquashfs /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem /mnt/home/tahr64/adrv_tahr64_6.0.5.sfs -comp xz
rm -r /mnt/home/puppyfilesystem

exit
Now works .......with Savefolder loaded .....
I'm glad it works for you but it's not my script, I have only tweaked nic007's script in accordance with what he himself recommended to do on several post.

nic007 wrote:.....
Put your sfs-addons in your ydrv like I do and/or add to your zdrv so they are loaded automatically at startup OR load them automatically by way of including a command in /etc/rc.d/rc.local.
.....
I chose to edit the /etc/rc.d/rc.local file as you suggested me to do. Thanks again nic007 for your tips.

nic007 wrote:.....
The question is now whether it's necessary to also include /initrd/pup_rw when you are running with usbdrive and savefolder/file to capture the contents of the savefile/folder.
......
I think that /initrd/pup_rw contains the changes made during the session, include it or exclude it depends on whether or not you want to save the changes made during the session, and not permanently saved, in the new adrv file.

Regards.

It's only when you have a savefile/folder loaded when using a pendrive that the session is saved to /initrd/pup_ro1 and not /initrd/pup_rw . I checked it. Only usb drives work this way. No savefile/folder and all other cases /initrd/pup_ro1 stays empty. So it's an exception. In all other cases you only need to copy initrd/pup_rw. It's good that you pointed out the use of /initrd/pup_ro1 with pendrive and savefile/folder, I didn't know that. Once you don't load any savefile/folder with USB /initrd/pup_rw saves session changes.

Posted: **Mon 06 Mar 2017, 17:56**

Hi Nick. Thanks for sharing

Could you elaborate Step 5 ?
What happens if there is a power outage before running the script?
On shutdown, if a savefile cannot be found, won't Puppy nag with a dialog asking to create one? as when one runs Puppy for the first time

Posted: **Mon 06 Mar 2017, 19:14**

kerl wrote:Hi Nick. Thanks for sharing
Could you elaborate Step 5 ?
What happens if there is a power outage before running the script?
On shutdown, if a savefile cannot be found, won't Puppy nag with a dialog asking to create one? as when one runs Puppy for the first time

Hi, kerl

Step 5 - If you have your savefile/folder loaded the path to your puppy files will most probably be /mnt/home.... The script assumes this is the case at the first run of the script to save the contents of your savefile/folder. If no savefiles/folder are loaded or none are available this path will change, so you have to edit the script accordingly.

Power outage - you will lose any system changes for that particular session. You can of course run the script at anytime during a session to capture changes in which case you will only lose changes that occurred after the capture.

Yes the save screen will popup by default at reboot/shutdown however you can use one of the following methods:
- Rename the shutdownconfig script found in /usr/sbin to something like 1shutdownconfig (you keep this as a backup). Create a new empty script called shutdownconfig. In this case the saving dialog will not appear at all and reboot/shutdown will follow without issues.
- Edit the timeout seconds in the shutdownconfig script to something like 3 seconds. In this case the save dialog will only appear for 3 seconds before reboot/shutdown commence automatically.

If not using one of the abovementioned methods, you will need to select "No" everytime.

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Replace your savefile/folder with an sfs storage file