The old application Notecase, found in almost all Puppys, is a very nice choice for saving your secrets, as it has the options of being stored encrypted and then need a password to open. Kept in an encrypted frugal save-file, it can not be accessed by outsiders.John99 wrote:Details for telephone banking/utility payments, entry codes for doors or combination locks and use of ATMs requiring pins for example are not internet related but still may be necessities.
Choosing a new Puppy
True freedom is a live Puppy on a multisession CD/DVD.
Re: Choosing a new Puppy
I realized that by recommending dpup strech, I've only recommended a 32bit puppy. I have no recommendations for a 64bit puppy...well at least not in most cases. However, if by chance you want to run a 64bit puppy in a virtualbox I recommend fatdog64, although that isn't an official puppy.John99 wrote:I will probably try reinstalling the latest official version of Puppy 64 & 32 bit depending on the machine, but thought it worth asking for any tips or advice first.
For 64bit puppies I tried Slacko64-6.9.9.9 and that was slow on my system. I'm going to give Xenialpup64 and BionicPup64 a try.
Actually performance wise I like the TazPup64 I'm working on, however, it isn't even at the alpha stage yet (so I'm discouraging people from testing it) and it isn't an official puppy since it's not built via woofCE.
Thanks for the interesting replies.
I now have dpup running with keepass2 from a frugal install in a Windows partition or a frugal install in another partition and from cd-r s and an ordinary full install.
Optical media install with persistence any tutorials ?
I still have not sorted out the optical media with persistence option.
Maybe I am missing something and setting it up wrongly.
Or as the DVD drive is vibrating when burning DVD RW disks maybe it is a hardware issue with this laptop and the disks are corrupting.
tallboy's post:
Any tutorials or tips about using R or RW disks for this besides leaving them open.
How does the procedure differ from creating CD-R bootable puppy ?
I guess the next thing I will try will be remastering the live CDs so I have Keepass on them and Libre Office. Although that probably makes them too big so I will need to use DVDs
Use of optional fdrv.sfs
It runs ok on this laptop without trying to use the older EOL kernel or the " optional fdrv.sfs" mentioned in the main dpup thread.
If I need to use the optional frdv.sfs on a frugal install or a cd how do I do that ?
Is it just as simple as pasting the file in so it is adjacent to the other dot.sfs files ?
The thread-2nd post seems to suggest that is all I need to do
The thread says
I know I can use the Universal installer from a Puppy live cd, but some of my PCs do not have optical drives.
I note it is easy to mount the puppy iso file and copy and paste the files to a suitable location. Then I set up a manual Grub2 custom menuentry and it is good to go after running update-grub.
I now have dpup running with keepass2 from a frugal install in a Windows partition or a frugal install in another partition and from cd-r s and an ordinary full install.
Optical media install with persistence any tutorials ?
I still have not sorted out the optical media with persistence option.
Maybe I am missing something and setting it up wrongly.
Or as the DVD drive is vibrating when burning DVD RW disks maybe it is a hardware issue with this laptop and the disks are corrupting.
tallboy's post:
John99 wrote:
Anyone with advice about running from optical media with persistence
See http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 42#1024242
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True freedom is a live Puppy on a multisession CD/DVD.
Any tutorials or tips about using R or RW disks for this besides leaving them open. How does the procedure differ from creating CD-R bootable puppy ?I guess the next thing I will try will be remastering the live CDs so I have Keepass on them and Libre Office. Although that probably makes them too big so I will need to use DVDs
Use of optional fdrv.sfs
It runs ok on this laptop without trying to use the older EOL kernel or the " optional fdrv.sfs" mentioned in the main dpup thread.
If I need to use the optional frdv.sfs on a frugal install or a cd how do I do that ?Is it just as simple as pasting the file in so it is adjacent to the other dot.sfs files ?
The thread-2nd post seems to suggest that is all I need to do
The thread says
P.S. Installs from another OS... Note: Most Pups are released with basic firmware (19 Mb compressed in /lib/firmware of the Dpup zdrv) which provides good support for a wide range of PC hardware. However, if you require additional support not available in Dpup, please go to the following link to access a large repository of firmware assembled by forum member gyro.
gyro's firmware repository
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 573#820573
Alternatively, gyro's comprehensive firmware package is available in the first post as an fdrv.sfs which you can place with the puppy.sfs and zdrv.sfs in your frugal install, or go to the Multimedia category of the Puppy menu and use ISOMaster to add the fdrv.sfs to the original Dpup iso(s). In both scenarios, the full firmware package will be available automatically each time you boot Dpup Stretch. ...
I know I can use the Universal installer from a Puppy live cd, but some of my PCs do not have optical drives.
I note it is easy to mount the puppy iso file and copy and paste the files to a suitable location. Then I set up a manual Grub2 custom menuentry and it is good to go after running update-grub.
For Optical, I have my F2 boot menu set to legacy and CD/DVD as the first, USB as the second, HDD as the third boot order.
With a Puppy booted, use pburn to blank a DVD, then format it, then burn the iso to it and boot that. Creating a save is one of the first things you'll want to do, so don't worry too much about setting things up after the first boot, just look to save/reboot again. If that works OK then start settings things up and once moderately to how you like it, just remaster that to a new iso, saving that to HDD, and then use pburn to blank the DVD (everything is running in ram so its OK to do that) .. and start over again except using your newly created (remastered) iso image instead of the original iso. I find Fatdog works very well in that respect, so a good one to use in the first instance IMO. Also using a RW disc means that you wont burn through a bunch of DVD's whilst experimenting as you can use the same one(s) over again. Only when you're familiar with multi-session and perhaps don't want any chance of changes being made to the optical disc might you then go for RO (write once) optical discs (personally I don't bother going to that extreme).
For me, the Huge Fatdog, with the main sfs inside initrd is considerably slower to boot than if separated out, best to stick with the standard huge initrd in the first instance however IMO. Again later once familiar you can experiment to see what works best for you/your hardware.
Personally once up and running I don't tend to save that often, mostly just poweroff with no save having been made. Each time a save is made it adds another file that has to be loaded at startup, so that number can grow depending upon your save practice. When quite a few, perhaps a dozen or so, I tend to just boot, let those all load and then blank, format, burn my remastered iso to the optical disc just booted, and once that's finished click save, and that new version just has a single save file to be loaded at startup i.e. that's a form of merging multiple separate save files into a single save file. [Actually I keep two optical discs and rotate between them here]
With a Puppy booted, use pburn to blank a DVD, then format it, then burn the iso to it and boot that. Creating a save is one of the first things you'll want to do, so don't worry too much about setting things up after the first boot, just look to save/reboot again. If that works OK then start settings things up and once moderately to how you like it, just remaster that to a new iso, saving that to HDD, and then use pburn to blank the DVD (everything is running in ram so its OK to do that) .. and start over again except using your newly created (remastered) iso image instead of the original iso. I find Fatdog works very well in that respect, so a good one to use in the first instance IMO. Also using a RW disc means that you wont burn through a bunch of DVD's whilst experimenting as you can use the same one(s) over again. Only when you're familiar with multi-session and perhaps don't want any chance of changes being made to the optical disc might you then go for RO (write once) optical discs (personally I don't bother going to that extreme).
For me, the Huge Fatdog, with the main sfs inside initrd is considerably slower to boot than if separated out, best to stick with the standard huge initrd in the first instance however IMO. Again later once familiar you can experiment to see what works best for you/your hardware.
Personally once up and running I don't tend to save that often, mostly just poweroff with no save having been made. Each time a save is made it adds another file that has to be loaded at startup, so that number can grow depending upon your save practice. When quite a few, perhaps a dozen or so, I tend to just boot, let those all load and then blank, format, burn my remastered iso to the optical disc just booted, and once that's finished click save, and that new version just has a single save file to be loaded at startup i.e. that's a form of merging multiple separate save files into a single save file. [Actually I keep two optical discs and rotate between them here]
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Thanks for the reply rufwoof.
I don't seem to have been overlooking anything in creating multisesion DVDs.
Suspect problem with using RW DVDs is my dvd drive on this laptop.
I have now solved most of the other issues I had and am running out of spare time right now so will get back to this issue in a week or two.
I will probably either try another laptop or swap the dvd drive with another one.
Having the OS on optical media is not essential, but it is handy for security & backup. I have lost PCs Phones & Memory sticks in the past either physically or them being irreparable. I have a stock of spare CDs & DVDs so I may as well make use of them. I can always disperse them so they are not in the same location.
Its only after you have lost something important that you become more paranoid about keeping multiple backups of anything vital & time consuming or expensive to re-aquire.
I don't seem to have been overlooking anything in creating multisesion DVDs.
Suspect problem with using RW DVDs is my dvd drive on this laptop.
I have now solved most of the other issues I had and am running out of spare time right now so will get back to this issue in a week or two.
I will probably either try another laptop or swap the dvd drive with another one.
Having the OS on optical media is not essential, but it is handy for security & backup. I have lost PCs Phones & Memory sticks in the past either physically or them being irreparable. I have a stock of spare CDs & DVDs so I may as well make use of them. I can always disperse them so they are not in the same location.
Its only after you have lost something important that you become more paranoid about keeping multiple backups of anything vital & time consuming or expensive to re-aquire.
Burn at a very low speed!as the DVD drive is vibrating when burning DVD RW disks maybe it is a hardware issue with this laptop and the disks are corrupting.
4X to max 8X.
The faster the burn speed the faster the disk has to turn.
Always a good idea to run a cleaning disk, to make sure components, doing the burn, are clean.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)