KDE 3.5.5 Mini (53 MB) with k3b, amarok, kppp

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#21 Post by MU » Mon 16 Oct 2006, 02:43

Simon,
I think I found a solution.

Why is /opt/kde/bin visible as the only folder?
Because the dotpup has 2 files in this folder.
This seems to force unionfs to use/show that folder.
So all we might have to do, is to add a file to every folder that exists in the squashfs.

Please install this dotpup again:
http://htb65.de/puppylinux/puppy-releas ... -3.5.5.pup

It includes a file "kde355.dot" in every folder, that exists in the squashfs.
This should make all folders visible, hopefully also all files in them.

Background-info
I updated my dotpup with this script, that I ran in the basefolder of my squashfs -folder (where are etc opt root usr):

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#!/bin/bash

dotpupfolder=/mnt/sda6/KDE-354/3.5.5/KDE-3.5.5/FILESYSTEM
txtfile=kde355.dot

find . -type d | while read a
do

b=`echo "$a" | sed "s/^\.//"`

mkdir "$dotpupfolder$b"
echo "1" > "$dotpupfolder$b/$txtfile"

done

rm -f "$dotpupfolder/$txtfile"
rm -f "$dotpupfolder/root/.kde/Autostart/$txtfile"

Mark

the_spudster · #22 Post by **the_spudster** » Mon 16 Oct 2006, 08:49

It works!
Made sure that I rebooted after downloading the .sfs file and then installed the dotpups.
Maybe the problem previously was that i installed the dotpups before the .sfs file had mounted???

Mighty impressive stuff from you guys!

Just one thing though, is there a reason why the kde355.dot file wants to load on every boot?

Simon

#23 Post by MU » Mon 16 Oct 2006, 10:12

Maybe the problem previously was that i installed the dotpups before the .sfs file had mounted???

Yes, unionfs does not like that.

Just one thing though, is there a reason why the kde355.dot file wants to load on every boot?

Do you mean that
1.) the kde355.dot files are always visible in the filemanager?
2.) or something else?

1.) that they are visible is ok, as they are needed to trick out the bug in unionfs.
2.) You had to explain that more detailed, I don't understand.

Mark

the_spudster · #24 Post by **the_spudster** » Mon 16 Oct 2006, 10:48

When booting or rebooting if starting a Kde desktop, the kde355.dot is started automatically in kwrite.
ie when the kde desktop is loading, kwrite starts up and opens kde355.dot.

Simon

#25 Post by MU » Mon 16 Oct 2006, 10:53

This might happen, if you run te full KDE with "xwin startkde".

I think, you opened it in kwrite once?
Then it is a feature.
KDE remembers your opened applications.

To avoids that it is opened at next boot, close kwrite before rebooting.

Does that fix it?

Oh wait, maybe it is started, because it is in the autostart-folder

Try to delete
/root/.kde/Autostart/kde355.dot
You must activate "show hidden files" in rox or konqueror to see that folder.

I removed this one from the dotpup now.

Mark

the_spudster · #26 Post by **the_spudster** » Mon 16 Oct 2006, 11:11

Yes that does the trick!

Incidently I have just tried 2.11 and certainly it runs significantly faster on my old Thinkpad. The .sfs file did not work, (showed errors when loading at boot),
but copied the mounted files from pup_r03while running in 2.10 to a directory, rebooted into 2.11 and copied those files back, to / , run the dotpups and it works like a dream!
Im sure that you know a better way of doing this, but thought I would let you know.

Simon

#27 Post by MU » Mon 16 Oct 2006, 11:22

fine

Yes, 2.11 uses a different compression for .sfs files.
I will create one this week.
Your solution can be used, too, it just requires that you have a lot of free space in your pup_save.3fs, so a new .sfs is more elegant.

Mark

the_spudster · #28 Post by **the_spudster** » Mon 16 Oct 2006, 11:29

Look forward to seeing it.
Any chance of compiling Amarok 1.4.3 with it?

Simon

#29 Post by MU » Mon 16 Oct 2006, 11:52

I think amarok is not easy to compile, so I use binary packages.

The one from slackware 10.1 does not work, so it depends on if a version for slackware 10.2 will be released.

wait... yes, it is there now:
ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/pub/unix/X11/gui ... kware/10.2
So I'll try to add it.

Mark

the_spudster · #30 Post by **the_spudster** » Mon 16 Oct 2006, 12:03

Like your sense of humour Mark!
Getting close to 'the perfect puppy'!

Best regards
Simon

Béèm · #31 Post by **Béèm** » Tue 17 Oct 2006, 23:42

Me too I had the problem that /opt/kde/bin was almost empty and thus there was no kdeinit to start..
I copied those file from the pup_ro4/opt/kde/bin to /opt/kde/bin and now kdeinit starts, but there is still an error.

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sh-3.00# Kicker
killall: kicker: no process killed
cp: cannot create regular file `/opt/kde/share/icons/default.kde/16x16/apps/OpenOffice-2.03.xpm': No such file or directory
kdeinit: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
kicker: error while loading shared libraries: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
sh-3.00#

However the file libqt-mt.so.3 is present on the system.
What could be done to correct?

#32 Post by MU » Wed 18 Oct 2006, 03:47

Beem,
libqt-mt.so.3 is a symlink to libqt-mt.so.3.3.6
Is that file available, too?
With my new dotpup, the problem with the non-existent files should be solved, did you try that?
Mark

Béèm · #33 Post by **Béèm** » Wed 18 Oct 2006, 07:49

This is what I find

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 33 May 28 02:39 /usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.la -> /usr/lib/qt-3.3.4/lib/libqt-mt.la
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 May 28 02:39 /usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.prl -> /usr/lib/qt-3.3.4/lib/libqt-mt.prl
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 33 May 28 02:39 /usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so -> /usr/lib/qt-3.3.4/lib/libqt-mt.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 May 28 02:39 /usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 -> /usr/lib/qt-3.3.4/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 May 28 02:39 /usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3 -> /usr/lib/qt-3.3.4/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 May 28 02:39 /usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.4 -> /usr/lib/qt-3.3.4/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.4
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Oct 15 02:14 /usr/lib/qt-3.3.6/lib/libqt-mt.so -> libqt-mt.so.3.3.6
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Oct 15 02:14 /usr/lib/qt-3.3.6/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 -> libqt-mt.so.3.3.6
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Oct 15 02:14 /usr/lib/qt-3.3.6/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3 -> libqt-mt.so.3.3.6
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 7176096 Oct 15 02:14 /usr/lib/qt-3.3.6/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.6
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 801 Aug 08 03:20 /initrd/pup_ro3/usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.la
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 836 Aug 08 03:20 /initrd/pup_ro3/usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.prl
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Sep 12 06:10 /initrd/pup_ro3/usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so -> libqt-mt.so.3.3.6
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Oct 15 02:14 /initrd/pup_ro4/usr/lib/qt-3.3.6/lib/libqt-mt.so -> libqt-mt.so.3.3.6
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Oct 15 02:14 /initrd/pup_ro4/usr/lib/qt-3.3.6/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 -> libqt-mt.so.3.3.6
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Oct 15 02:14 /initrd/pup_ro4/usr/lib/qt-3.3.6/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3 -> libqt-mt.so.3.3.6
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 7176096 Oct 15 02:14 /initrd/pup_ro4/usr/lib/qt-3.3.6/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.6
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 33 May 28 02:39 /initrd/pup_rw/usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.la -> /usr/lib/qt-3.3.4/lib/libqt-mt.la
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 34 May 28 02:39 /initrd/pup_rw/usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.prl -> /usr/lib/qt-3.3.4/lib/libqt-mt.prl
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 33 May 28 02:39 /initrd/pup_rw/usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so -> /usr/lib/qt-3.3.4/lib/libqt-mt.so
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 May 28 02:39 /initrd/pup_rw/usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 -> /usr/lib/qt-3.3.4/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 37 May 28 02:39 /initrd/pup_rw/usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3 -> /usr/lib/qt-3.3.4/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 39 May 28 02:39 /initrd/pup_rw/usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.4 -> /usr/lib/qt-3.3.4/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.4

I am afraid I did start wrongly by installing the 3.5.5 pup while the 3.5.4 was still installed.

So I uninstalled the 3.5.4
Downloaded the latest 3.5.5 to be sure
Couldn't uninstall the first install of 3.5.5 so did a re-install.

BTW: is there a need for devx-qt-renamed_210.sfs?
If yes, does this one contain also the stuff in devx_210.sfs?

#34 Post by MU » Wed 18 Oct 2006, 11:55

BTW: is there a need for devx-qt-renamed_210.sfs?
If yes, does this one contain also the stuff in devx_210.sfs?

I did not try the original devx with this KDE, but former versions produced very strange results.
the "renamed" is identical to the normal one, just /usr/lib/qt is renamed to avoid potential conflicts.
Mark

#35 Post by MU » Wed 18 Oct 2006, 12:19

/usr/lib/qt/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 -> /usr/lib/qt-3.3.4/lib/libqt-mt.so.3

This is wrong.
Rename your devx_210.sfs to devx_210.sfs---
Rename the KDExxx.sfs to KDExxx.sfs---
Reboot.
Uninstall qtxxx from Pupget.
Delete any QT-folders in /usr/lib
Rename the KDExxx.sfs--- to KDExxx.sfs
Reboot.
Install the KDE-dotpup again.

And the best will be to use devx-qtrenamed_210.sfs.

Mark

Béèm · #36 Post by **Béèm** » Wed 18 Oct 2006, 21:36

Looking at the dotget package manager told me that I didn't have a qt-xxx installed.
I followed your instructions and renamed /usr/lib/qt (for the moment) to qt-back and did the re-install of the dotpup.

Started Kicker from rxvt, got a lot of messages, but KDE did start.
I understand now your remark of starting this way. I ad KDE 3.5.4 already configures to have a systray vertically on the left side, which is what I have now. This gives indeed the advantage of having the puppy menu knob as well as the KDE one. Neat.

So I feel I can safely delete the qt-back directory now.

Will try to play a bit with K3B specially in view with udf.

Béèm · #37 Post by **Béèm** » Wed 18 Oct 2006, 22:39

hmmmm.
In JWM the udf DVD is recognized.
When I look with K3b and select 'disc info' I get the message 'unknown disc format'.
Is there anything special to do for KDE to recognize udf?

#38 Post by MU » Mon 23 Oct 2006, 15:03

Here is MiniKDE for Puppy 2.11:

http://puptrix.org/isos/Puppylinux-offi ... ini-3.5.5/

It is larger, as Puppy 2.11 does not use LZMA-compression.

Made from these packages:
qt.3.3.6
amarok-1.4.3-i486-1.tgz
arts-1.5.5-i486-1.tgz
k3b-0.12.17-i486-1.tgz
kdebase-3.5.5-i486-1.tgz
kdelibs-3.5.5-i486-1.tgz

with the latest version of mkKDE:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=11876

Mark

The Major · #39 Post by **The Major** » Wed 25 Oct 2006, 20:09

I just wanted to register my thanks and admiration for your work in producing the mini KDE package. I like k3b, and this has enabled me to use it, and other KDE apps.

Normally, I don't like KDE as it is a bit bloated and slow, but this version running in Puppy is fast. I also like the way I can toggle between Icewm and KDE toolbars at the bottom of the screen.

Many thanks,

Ian

DavidBell · #40 Post by **DavidBell** » Sun 24 Dec 2006, 01:41

Does this work in Puppy 2.12? I put KDE355-mini.sfs in /, rebooted, then ran KDE-3.5.5.pup and gettir.pup, rebooted again.

Most of the files seem to be there going back through this post but when I ran Kicker from termial I got some messages about missing default.kde icons, so I just copied another set. Now I get three messages

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sh-3.00# Kicker
killall: kicker: no process killed
/usr/local/KDE-3.5.5/Kicker: line 28: /usr/local/MU-XDG-activator/MU-XDG-activator: No such file or directory
/usr/local/KDE-3.5.5/Kicker: line 31: kdeinit: command not found
/usr/local/KDE-3.5.5/Kicker: line 32: kicker: command not found

The MU_XDG-activator folder is there but it only has another folder in it call 'applications', both these have the hidden file .kde355.dot

I can't find kdeinit or kicker but don't really know where to look.

Thanks for any advice, I'd like to try amarok

DB

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