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Been watching, balance works great and now I have removed my other mixer entry from menu. Hope this replaces Zmix and it's the balance that really puts it over the top. Your to do list, would be just frosting on the cake.
Super Thanks, Kal

Nathan F wrote:Would it be feasible to add a numerical scale and spinbox like in this volume control?

Yes it is feasible and quite easy to do.

Would you consider it to be part of the "standard" view or to be an option for "advanced" users. I wouldn't like to clutter the interface for regular use.

I'm guessing that for most users close enough is good enough although I agree that when balancing sources it's important to be as precise as possible. e.g. for recording.

Regarding the Left/Right balance. Would people require finer control? For example, incremens of 1 instead of the current incremens of 10?

If you have any intention of making a standard view/advanced view configuration then yes, I would put the numerical scale in the advanced view. As far as the balance scale goes I don't think increments of one would work with the tiny horizontal sliders, but perhaps for an advanced view that could be changed.

This is all hypothetical right now, correct? Like you said, close enough is good enough for most users. I'm just spitting out ideas here.

Nathan

Nathan F wrote:This is all hypothetical right now, correct?

Well, actually the "Options" functionality is in the books:

The ideas I have up to now are the following:
- Have different "modes" e.g. Listen. Record. showing different scales
- Select scales to show
- Change the label for the scales (e.g. my "alt pcm" controls my earphones)
- Show/Hide tooltips showing the level for the sliders
- Change the frequency for synchronizing the sliders with the actual volume. (Right now it's every second and takes about 5% CPU in my computer)
- Your sugestion to show a spinbox for finer control

Version 0.3 uploaded

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 8536#98536

Changes:
- Added volume spinners for finer volume control (as requested by Nathan)
- Added menu
- Added Options window to select devices to show.

This is the shot of the new version running on my computer.

"Speaker" and "Master" don't do anything. They move but the sound is not changed.

I have PCM that works on both your program then there is Front and Headphone that I can only control with alsamixer.

woohoo... this rocks... we get so many great new grafical applications with the new programming tools... this is fantastic!
Mark

brad_chuck wrote:"Speaker" and "Master" don't do anything. They move but the sound is not changed.

Speaker is for the internal computer speaker. Many modern computers don't have a speaker any more.

I have PCM that works on both your program then there is Front and Headphone that I can only control with alsamixer.

In one of my computers "Alt pcm" is actually the headphones. It seems to be the case in your computer too.

If people can confirm that's the case in most computers, then I can rename the "alt pcm" to "Headphones".

Another little detail that my sons brought to my attention is capitalization of the labels. How do you feel about the lowercase?

OK, Alt PCM is the headphone. That leaves Front... There is no way to control it.

I don't use a mixer I just leave the Headphone and PCM up and have the Front connected to my hardware volume button with xbindkeys.

But new Puppys may get confused or think there sound card does not work if they use the mixer and the front is down ( as my computer is after each reset ). They turn everything up and no sound.....

There has been a lot of talk about looks. This program looks great. good work.

I like PCM, Main, Alt. PCM. So I vote upper case.

brad_chuck wrote:OK, Alt PCM is the headphone. That leaves Front... There is no way to control it.

mmm, I don't have a "front" so I have no way to test, but I see that the alsa mixer shows way more devices than the devices exposed by /dev/mixer.

setvol uses /dev/mixer which is a prety standard and safe way that works in most (all?) configurations.

But here is a big Thank you! for reminding me about doing it directly with ALSA.

Thanks to you reporting this behaviour (or lackof) I just decided that if ALSA is available, I will use it directly to control the volume. It will require some extra work because the amixer command syntax is not as straight forward as setvol, but I'm sure I can come up with something.

Stay tunned and I'll appreciate if you can test once I release the Alsa version.

Brad, (And everyone else that reads this post)

Please execute the following command and attach resulting amixer.tar.gz file

Rarsa: I must thank you for your work. I have no time to try your mixer, but as it is stated in another threads, there is a mess with the voip phones as Skype or Xten-Xlite (a generic one).
With Puppy 2.02 and its mixer xtmix, both phones run ok.
In the new versions, 2.13, 2.14 and Pizzapup, they don't works.
The remote user tell us not hearing our voice.
Xtmix have a small button, like a dot, that enables the mic capture. Zmix does not have it.
I think was Gen Too that kindly suggest to enable directly the mic through the order "amixer set mic 98% unmute cap".
It is not possible you include the mic capture on/off button into your mixer?.

I think in the new versions Alsa install was too much trimmed lacking drivers for legacy cards and so on. But perhaps this may be the subject of another thread.

Thanks
Xan

xandas wrote:It is not possible you include the mic capture on/off button into your mixer?

It's in my plans but first I need to have the output of the command in my previous post from as many users as possible. Please execute it and post the file.

Shut up phpBB! I don't need no stinkin' message! MUahaahahahahahaahhaaahaaaahaaaaahahaaaaahahaaaaahahahaaaa.......

...erm.... ..as you were...

I'll post mine tomorrow, I'm in another OS right now and have a few downloads going that I don't want to interrupt.

Nathan

...as requested.

Cheers

Here's the output from one of my boxes.

Nathan

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Amixer, posted

Here's the output from my other computer at home.

Nathan