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#21 Post by ttuuxxx »

BobSongs wrote:
Puppy 2,3,4 all have the same default menu system using .desktop files, maybe Muppy or Mu might of altered the way that this system works.
I think I tried my package on puppy 3.0.1 before and it worked fine also
you might want to post something in the Muppy thread on here
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#22 Post by BobSongs »

ttuuxxx wrote:
BobSongs wrote:
Puppy 2,3,4 all have the same default menu system using .desktop files, maybe Muppy or Mu might of altered the way that this system works.
I think I tried my package on puppy 3.0.1 before and it worked fine also
you might want to post something in the Muppy thread on here
ttuuxxx
Yeah; I'd put something in that particular thread... but I'm getting the impression that this particular Puppy release's author is going to be rather busy in the near future.

Thanks for the missing files. I'll give them a whirl, and report on it.

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#23 Post by afecelis »

Yup, I forgot to mention which pupplet I was using. I'm using Flexxx Nibiru 1.3.1, based on puppy 4.1.1, and it seems to come with everything the pet requires.
Other pupplets seem to be more "radical" on the stripping-down process. ;)

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#24 Post by BobSongs »

Yeah. Puppy 4.1.1. It's very tempting. But in my case I'm not testing Puppy in order to find a distro that will replace my current one (Ubuntu Ultimate Edition 1.9). I want a distro that will cause a Windows user to seriously consider something other than a Microsoft's product.

So far Muppy 008 has a lot going for it:
  • Muppy has a very different application menu system. IceWM's menus have no delay time (moving the mouse means immediate change of menus). GNOME, KDE, Windows, Mac OS allow for some 'mouse error'. Whether we agree with this philosophically or not -- the average Windows user expects this. This "small" difference can be a make it/break it issue, particularly for those who've used Windows since 3.1
  • Muppy comes packed with an impressive amount of software/tools in an impressively small amount of space. I'm struck by how many Windows XP Home users survive on 256 MegaBytes of RAM. Muppy's small size along with its modularity means I can load a large Muppy on a smaller system. :D
  • Muppy has impressed me visually. Yeah, yeah. It's eye-candy, in many respects. But a GUI is ... well ... graphical. So it appeals to the eyes.
The only issue is that the Muppy I like, 008.3f, is based on Puppy 3.x. Now, here's the criteria for me. If I give Puppy 4.x a test run (and really like its new improvements and features), but still prefer a Puplet based on 3.x... then that Puplet is pretty nicely put together. And this is the case with Muppy.

My question, which will likely mean a new thread, is one that's been rattling around my head lately. Updates. How on earth does one "update" Puppy? Windows, Mac OS, Ubuntu, Fedora... constant updates. OK. I'll create a new post asking about this.

:D

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#25 Post by ttuuxxx »

BobSongs wrote:Yeah. Puppy 4.1.1. It's very tempting. But in my case I'm not testing Puppy in order to find a distro that will replace my current one (Ubuntu Ultimate Edition 1.9). I want a distro that will cause a Windows user to seriously consider something other than a Microsoft's product.

So far Muppy 008 has a lot going for it:
  • Muppy has a very different application menu system. IceWM's menus have no delay time (moving the mouse means immediate change of menus). GNOME, KDE, Windows, Mac OS allow for some 'mouse error'. Whether we agree with this philosophically or not -- the average Windows user expects this. This "small" difference can be a make it/break it issue, particularly for those who've used Windows since 3.1
  • Muppy comes packed with an impressive amount of software/tools in an impressively small amount of space. I'm struck by how many Windows XP Home users survive on 256 MegaBytes of RAM. Muppy's small size along with its modularity means I can load a large Muppy on a smaller system. :D
  • Muppy has impressed me visually. Yeah, yeah. It's eye-candy, in many respects. But a GUI is ... well ... graphical. So it appeals to the eyes.
The only issue is that the Muppy I like, 008.3f, is based on Puppy 3.x. Now, here's the criteria for me. If I give Puppy 4.x a test run (and really like its new improvements and features), but still prefer a Puplet based on 3.x... then that Puplet is pretty nicely put together. And this is the case with Muppy.

My question, which will likely mean a new thread, is one that's been rattling around my head lately. Updates. How on earth does one "update" Puppy? Windows, Mac OS, Ubuntu, Fedora... constant updates. OK. I'll create a new post asking about this.

:D
Usually when you have a regular puppy installed and a newer one comes out, basically you just place the newer cd in and it will auto-update the previous version. But this might not be the case with muppy, I haven't installed it and as you said it has a lot of changes added to it. you could try it. but I do like series 3.0 better for the Slackware aspect.

I have a nice version of icewm located on this thread
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=29788
the server is down but a temp download location is
http://sharesend.com/nygrq

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#26 Post by BobSongs »

:arrow: ttuuxxx: :!:

You're a scholar and a gentleman. I don't know if you've been told that lately... if not, it's high time someone has mentioned it to you. :D

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#27 Post by BobSongs »

BobSongs wrote:Yeah. Puppy 4.1.1. It's very tempting. But in my case I'm not testing Puppy in order to find a distro that will replace my current one (Ubuntu Ultimate Edition 1.9)....
Addendum: While Puppy may not be my full-blown distro, it is still a distro I use JUST FOR FUN!! OK. I said it. I'm ... out of the closet. ;) Seriously. It's fun. I do like it.

It has completely and utterly replaced my usage of the Slax distro. Slax was that utility that let me peel people's personal files off a Windows box and put them safely onto an external hard drive. We've all seen Windows installations that have gone so far south that the word "frustration" is the only word that properly defines our ... ahem ... work "eXPerience".

So while Puppy will certainly be placed on CDs and slid into people's optical drives in order to have them go: "Oooooooooo, so this is Linux? Why didn't someone tell me this before?!", it will also be an essential part of my "OK, let's fix your PC again" tools."

Ubuntu may be my Desktop O/S. But I have a family to consider. I cannot tinker with Linux and break it as often as I'd like, simply because this PC has come into high demand (homework, etc.). But a distro on my 4 GB USB thumbdrive with a partition for downloads and personal files? So cool.

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#28 Post by ttuuxxx »

BobSongs wrote:
BobSongs wrote:Yeah. Puppy 4.1.1. It's very tempting. But in my case I'm not testing Puppy in order to find a distro that will replace my current one (Ubuntu Ultimate Edition 1.9)....
Addendum: While Puppy may not be my full-blown distro, it is still a distro I use JUST FOR FUN!! OK. I said it. I'm ... out of the closet. ;) Seriously. It's fun. I do like it.

It has completely and utterly replaced my usage of the Slax distro. Slax was that utility that let me peel people's personal files off a Windows box and put them safely onto an external hard drive. We've all seen Windows installations that have gone so far south that the word "frustration" is the only word that properly defines our ... ahem ... work "eXPerience".

So while Puppy will certainly be placed on CDs and slid into people's optical drives in order to have them go: "Oooooooooo, so this is Linux? Why didn't someone tell me this before?!", it will also be an essential part of my "OK, let's fix your PC again" tools."

Ubuntu may be my Desktop O/S. But I have a family to consider. I cannot tinker with Linux and break it as often as I'd like, simply because this PC has come into high demand (homework, etc.). But a distro on my 4 GB USB thumbdrive with a partition for downloads and personal files? So cool.

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Thanks for the nice comments :wink:
I look at puppy like this, you easily add what you like to it, then simply remaster the cd. Then you'll have a complete working desktop with 0% chance of failure, Just run it live and store your files on the usb stick and back them on up on the hard drive, I went over 1yr without any Os's installed on on 2 out of 3 of my pc's, Just running live, compiling live, no virus and no spyware, you just can't do any better.
All my Pc's are newer also with lots of ram, around 2gigs ddr2 800 and this pc alone has 1.6 terabytes of hard drive space, I could use any linux dvd/cd distro on my pc's, But I choose puppy just because its simple to use and fun to workout. Puppy just isn't for older pc's :)
Plus what you can do with it is just excellent. take for example my release of "Fire Hydrant INFERNO" that took me a few weeks to put together, Image
the server holding is down right now, But it makes a great point, That release had more usable files than any Ubuntu dvd does by default and it was a 447Mb iso that I could run live. :)
So when considering Puppy, yes it can be something that you can play around with or it can be a serious contender against anything MS or any other Linux distro can shoot at it. It all depends on what your wants and needs are.
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#29 Post by BobSongs »

Now that's a pretty desktop there, ttuuxxx. And you've got quite a number of reliable software packages installed. Impressive.

I failed to mention that an aspect of Puppy is the huge variety of Puplets such as Fire Hydrant and Living Water that are available. True: other distros have their variants. But this one's hard to beat for the sheer number of choices.

I think I'll give Fire Hydrant and Living Water a test run too. Perhaps the answer lies in having a variety of Pups instead of trying to find a single Pup for everyone.

Much appreciated, ttuuxxx. I especially look forward to testing Living Water.

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#30 Post by technosaurus »

I am uploading the 20MB package with the gnome_libs preinstalled to:

http://www.pupweb.org/desktop/inkscape_0.46-i386.pet

petget still complains about some missing dependencies but I think most are for documentation (not compiled with --disable-scrollkeeper) or for gstreamer (not sure what it is used for in Inkscape anyways)

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