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Posted: Thu 23 Sep 2010, 20:05
by playdayz
So very nice SteveS. Would it be possible to make a pet that could be placed in the Puppy Package Manager that could add pupflux capability to standard Lucid 5.1.1? Or 80% of the capability ;-) Thanks.

And now I read more
dejan555 provided the fluxbox for Lucid,
Can we put it in PPM dejan555?

Posted: Thu 23 Sep 2010, 20:16
by dejan555
@ playdayz, it's already in ibiblio under pet packages 5:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... 6-dpup.pet
so I guess it should show in ppm :)

BTW, while I'm here I'll mention this cool menu button hack I found, see this post on dpup thread for screenshot and links:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 168#452168

Posted: Thu 23 Sep 2010, 20:34
by steve_s
Glad you guys got it figured out....

Thanks for the praise, Playdayz.

Dejan's fluxbox has it all and would make a great addition. I did a great deal of tweaking on the menu, but that was more for my own benefit; his initial menu looks great.

And thanks for the hack, dejan!

pfluxlite

Posted: Thu 23 Sep 2010, 23:25
by don570
I tried Pfluxlite and I liked it's look.

Oddly I found Geany slow to launch.
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Here are some suggestions.
Retrovol should be in the menu rather than alsamixer.
Also you need a version of mhwaveedit that will launch
Retrovol by clicking on icon.

Try this
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-7255dff9.html


set_hwclock should be in the menu as well to be consistent with Lucid Puppy.
Many users won't know how to set the clock if they are booting
on a linux machine rather than a windows machine.
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I suggest you use this version of mtpaint 3.34.55 .
It's only slightly larger than version 3.31

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-d3a1bd6f.html

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I made a package to put some useful right-click options for Rox Filer.
Try it out. It uses mplayer to play several audio and video formats.
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-9d017969.html

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Re: pfluxlite

Posted: Fri 24 Sep 2010, 13:02
by steve_s
don570 wrote:I tried Pfluxlite and I liked it's look.

Oddly I found Geany slow to launch.
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Here are some suggestions.
Retrovol should be in the menu rather than alsamixer.
Also you need a version of mhwaveedit that will launch
Retrovol by clicking on icon.

Try this
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-7255dff9.html


set_hwclock should be in the menu as well to be consistent with Lucid Puppy.
Many users won't know how to set the clock if they are booting
on a linux machine rather than a windows machine.
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I suggest you use this version of mtpaint 3.34.55 .
It's only slightly larger than version 3.31

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-d3a1bd6f.html

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I made a package to put some useful right-click options for Rox Filer.
Try it out. It uses mplayer to play several audio and video formats.
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-9d017969.html

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Thanks, Don, I'll check it out...never used retrovol, so I'll have to look into it...I just picked the mtpaint that was recomended in the woof build and i am trying to keep the size down on pfluxlite...I like the Rox filer ideas, though...didn't notice any slowness on geany but will look into it...like I said, I'll check it out; thanks!...

stripping applications to save space

Posted: Sat 25 Sep 2010, 18:16
by don570
You should read forum member shinobar's experience with making lupq
(Lucid Puppy Quickset)
http://208.109.22.214/puppy/viewtopic.p ... d2bc37c11f

Apparently the apps he was getting from Woof weren't stripped!!

It all started when I read about the program strippkg
http://208.109.22.214/puppy/viewtopic.p ... d2bc37c11f.
When I tried using it, I noticed that Retrovol wasn't stripped .
I sent a message to Shinobar to tell him about it. You can read the rest
with the link.
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Re: stripping applications to save space

Posted: Mon 27 Sep 2010, 17:46
by steve_s
don570 wrote:You should read forum member shinobar's experience with making lupq
(Lucid Puppy Quickset)
http://208.109.22.214/puppy/viewtopic.p ... d2bc37c11f

Apparently the apps he was getting from Woof weren't stripped!!

It all started when I read about the program strippkg
http://208.109.22.214/puppy/viewtopic.p ... d2bc37c11f.
When I tried using it, I noticed that Retrovol wasn't stripped .
I sent a message to Shinobar to tell him about it. You can read the rest
with the link.
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During the woof process, if you have devx running, it gives you the option to run "strip", which I did, although this was my first time to have a completed process with woof, so have no idea how stripped it was...

Thanks for the info, don!

intermittent pauses when playing audio cd

Posted: Wed 29 Sep 2010, 04:19
by gnomic
Hullo there,

It's back, Pupflux, and I'm digging it. From the desktop right now.

However one little thing I noticed on playing an audio cd with Gnome-MPlayer, about three times a minute sound output ceased for round a second. Optical drive is good (nothing in dmesg about i/o errors). What I have seen of mplayer messages appears normal so far as I can tell. Ran it in a terminal with CD inserted and saw some output as disc was recognised and began to play.. Also just stuck in CD and clicked on it which opened Gnome-MPlayer. What can it mean? I did find myself wondering whether it is periodically trying to get artwork, track details, etc from the net - no network connection at that stage. MP3 playback from USB stick no problem.

Machine is a ThinkPad R51. Live session.

00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)

Anyone seen this, got any ideas, etc? Afraid I haven't researched it at all.

Re: intermittent pauses when playing audio cd

Posted: Wed 29 Sep 2010, 20:16
by steve_s
gnomic wrote:Hullo there,

It's back, Pupflux, and I'm digging it. From the desktop right now.

However one little thing I noticed on playing an audio cd with Gnome-MPlayer, about three times a minute sound output ceased for round a second. Optical drive is good (nothing in dmesg about i/o errors). What I have seen of mplayer messages appears normal so far as I can tell. Ran it in a terminal with CD inserted and saw some output as disc was recognised and began to play.. Also just stuck in CD and clicked on it which opened Gnome-MPlayer. What can it mean? I did find myself wondering whether it is periodically trying to get artwork, track details, etc from the net - no network connection at that stage. MP3 playback from USB stick no problem.

Machine is a ThinkPad R51. Live session.

00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 01)

Anyone seen this, got any ideas, etc? Afraid I haven't researched it at all.
Hmmm...no specific feedback from me regarding that one...I don't know if mplayer looks for data on the web. I think of mplayer as a universal media player and not as much of a music player...for that i might pick something like pmusic, which I know Pfluxlite has (I'm using that right now) but can't swear to Pupflux...type pmusic in the terminal and see how it plays for you music...

Posted: Wed 29 Sep 2010, 20:28
by rcrsn51
However one little thing I noticed on playing an audio cd with Gnome-MPlayer, about three times a minute sound output ceased for round a second.
Look in Edit > Preferences > Mplayer at the cache settings.

Maybe the cache is too large and Mplayer has to pause to fill it.

pmusic flaw

Posted: Thu 30 Sep 2010, 23:06
by don570
When I played Audio CD's (that I had burnt) with pmusic 1.3.1
I noticed that the motor of my CD drive was working too hard for the first minute of
the song and for each song of the CD. Commercially burnt CD's didn't have this
problem. I reported this problem to the developer Zigbert
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=600

He basically pinned the problem on ffmpeg and said that there was nothing
he could do.

By the way the program pCD doesn't have this problem so you should always
use that for playing CD's if it's available.

set_hwclock_type

Posted: Thu 30 Sep 2010, 23:26
by don570
The command at the terminal to set the clock type is 'set_hwclock_type'

Barry discusses this at

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01616

and here's the explanation

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=41680

This is why all recent puppy iso's have setting the
clock type in the menu so it's easy to set.

Forum member shinobar made it part of his countrywizard-0.7.pet.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=58312
I assume that countrywizard can be installed in pfluxlite.
I'll try it tonight.

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audio cd interruptions

Posted: Fri 01 Oct 2010, 04:43
by gnomic
Thanks for replies.

Found that pmusic plays audio cds without this problem, so sweet as.

Had a look at the mplayer cache mentioned, but altering values had no effect. I think this is intended for streaming audio rather than audio cds.

pcd 1

Posted: Sat 02 Oct 2010, 20:35
by don570
I installed an old version of pCD on pfluxlite and it worked
perfectly. I highly recommend it over pmusic if you just want to
play CD
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I tried to install countrywizard by shinobar but it gave errors at
the terminal.

So to get the right time what I do is set the right timezone (-4 for me)
then at the terminal I type 'set_hwclock_type'

The file /etc/clock is changed by this command I guess??

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Posted: Wed 06 Oct 2010, 12:01
by toddr
All I have to say is PfluxLite is great! I have been looking for a very lite version of Lucid 5.1.1 and it was perfect.

My only issue is the installer bombs. I was able to install Puppy 5.1.1 on the same machine with no problems which has me puzzled. It goes through the install all the way through and even installs grub. But when I go to boot the new install, the only thing there is grub. weird :?:

Posted: Wed 06 Oct 2010, 23:54
by steve_s
toddr wrote:All I have to say is PfluxLite is great! I have been looking for a very lite version of Lucid 5.1.1 and it was perfect.

My only issue is the installer bombs. I was able to install Puppy 5.1.1 on the same machine with no problems which has me puzzled. It goes through the install all the way through and even installs grub. But when I go to boot the new install, the only thing there is grub. weird :?:
Really weird 'cause that should be exactly the same as Puppy...you can of course manually copy the cd to a folder then point grub to it...that's what I do everytime I do a frugal anyway...I can walk you through that if you want...

Posted: Sun 10 Oct 2010, 21:04
by maxpro4u
Seems that adding items to menu is pretty straightforward but I can't figure out how to add the correct commands to display pwidgets' add and remove widgets window.

Posted: Sun 10 Oct 2010, 22:01
by steve_s
maxpro4u wrote:Seems that adding items to menu is pretty straightforward but I can't figure out how to add the correct commands to display pwidgets' add and remove widgets window.
Sorry, that one I don't know, so I'll default to either dejan or 01micko on that one...I haven't run widgets on fluxbox... :?

Posted: Sun 10 Oct 2010, 22:54
by maxpro4u
steve_s wrote:
maxpro4u wrote:Seems that adding items to menu is pretty straightforward but I can't figure out how to add the correct commands to display pwidgets' add and remove widgets window.
Sorry, that one I don't know, so I'll default to either dejan or 01micko on that one...I haven't run widgets on fluxbox... :?
guess I'll just have to wait. BTW I have done a full install of fluxbox on my armada.

Posted: Sun 10 Oct 2010, 23:09
by steve_s
maxpro4u wrote:BTW I have done a full install of fluxbox on my armada.
Cool! I sent them a pm so hopefully we can hear from someone that has pwidgets running on fluxbox...