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Posted: **Mon 05 Dec 2016, 21:55**

I'm always (OK, usually) willing to admit when I've been wrong about something as I don't believe you can learn any other way. Anyway, I have to eat humble pie now.

One of my favourite distros in the past was the "full" version of OpenSUSE; Li-f-e (Linux For Education). It's a big download but it contains pretty much all the software I need and use on a regular basis, and all the multimedia codecs as well (which even Mint no longer has now, apparently).

I've now installed the latest version, 42.1.1, and done a full update overnight (about 1.8 GB of downloads) and I can't see any problems at all with bootup or anything else, despite the fact it runs on systemd. Lesson learned.

Posted: **Mon 12 Dec 2016, 01:54**

Gecko-Linux Rolling installed to the hard drive of my Macmini:

bill@Macmini:~> inxi -bw
System: Host: Macmini Kernel: 4.8.13-1-default x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3
Distro: openSUSE Tumbleweed
Machine: Device: laptop System: Apple product: Macmini6 1 v: 1.0
Mobo: Apple model: Mac-031AEE4D24BFF0B1 v: Macmini6 1
UEFI: Apple v: MM61.88Z.0106.B03.1211161202 date: 11/16/2012
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i5-3210M (-HT-MCP-) speed/max: 1200/2501 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.Org 1.18.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev)
Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
GLX Renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ivybridge Mobile GLX Version: 3.0 Mesa 13.0.2
Network: Card-1: Broadcom Limited NetXtreme BCM57766 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe driver: tg3
Card-2: Broadcom Limited BCM4331 802.11a/b/g/n driver: wl
Drives: HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (4.4% used)
Weather: Conditions: 28 F (-2 C) - light snow Time: December 11, 5:53 PM EST
Info: Processes: 207 Uptime: 1:14 Memory: 517.8/15953.0MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.5
bill@Macmini:~> free
total used free shared buff/cache available
Mem: 16335876 450488 14193360 68196 1692028 15535800
Swap: 2104316 0 2104316
bill@Macmini:~>

Computer is connected to a 32" TV by HDMI cable.
It is working well.

Posted: **Fri 16 Dec 2016, 20:58**

I had a brief play with the just-released MX Linux 16;

https://distrowatch.com/?newsid=09669

https://mxlinux.org/

Really, really impressive. If anyone is interested in a systemd-free (uses SysVInit) stable Debian Jesse with an extremely well fleshed-out and complete Xfce desktop (which can be a biotch to arrive at with Debian, IMHO) - including a number of very neat and useful Anti-X/MX applications/modules, and it's own additional repo with a GUI app specifically for it - I'd heartily recommend giving this distro a good spin!! If only I had a spare HD to install to... I'd really like to run with this one for a good long while. Thumbs way up!

This distro's popularity appears to be increasing, and I can see why. Heck, even Dedoimedo might like this one!

Bob

Posted: **Sat 17 Dec 2016, 01:00**

Moat wrote:I had a brief play with the just-released MX Linux 16;

https://distrowatch.com/?newsid=09669

https://mxlinux.org/

Really, really impressive. If anyone is interested in a systemd-free (uses SysVInit) stable Debian Jesse with an extremely well fleshed-out and complete Xfce desktop (which can be a biotch to arrive at with Debian, IMHO) - including a number of very neat and useful Anti-X/MX applications/modules, and it's own additional repo with a GUI app specifically for it - I'd heartily recommend giving this distro a good spin!! If only I had a spare HD to install to... I'd really like to run with this one for a good long while. Thumbs way up!

This distro's popularity appears to be increasing, and I can see why. Heck, even Dedoimedo might like this one!

Bob

Good review Moat. It's a fair bet that Dedo likes MX, since he recently interviewed its developers;

http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/inte ... -team.html

In other news, I've just installed Mint 18.1 Cinnamon (which has just come out) and it's working well with no problems so far. The only slight letdown for me is that I miss the old default Mint wallpaper, with the 3-D letters and numbers casting shadows on a grey background. They've stopped producing (or at least including) it for some reason.

Posted: **Sat 17 Dec 2016, 02:26**

Colonel Panic wrote: It's a fair bet that Dedo likes MX, since he recently interviewed its developers;

http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/inte ... -team.html

Ha - whaddya' know...

Another feature of MX-16 I'd like to explore are the remastering and USB tools - looks as if one could create a USB with persistence using 'em.

Mint is great, probably the most polished, complete Linux distro OOTB that exists today. I've had tremendous luck and stability with two regular Mint Mate installs (one going on 2-1/2 years). I'm sure you can find that favorite wallpaper set... actually, it's likely they're even in Quiana/Rebecca's repo(s)... I'd guess - install Synaptic, update the package lists, and search on, say, "Rebecca artwork" - might find 'em...

Bob

Posted: **Sat 17 Dec 2016, 10:25**

Moat wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote: It's a fair bet that Dedo likes MX, since he recently interviewed its developers;

http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/inte ... -team.html
Ha - whaddya' know... Another feature of MX-16 I'd like to explore are the remastering and USB tools - looks as if one could create a USB with persistence using 'em.

Mint is great, probably the most polished, complete Linux distro OOTB that exists today. I've had tremendous luck and stability with two regular Mint Mate installs (one going on 2-1/2 years). I'm sure you can find that favorite wallpaper set... actually, it's likely they're even in Quiana/Rebecca's repo(s)... I'd guess - install Synaptic, update the package lists, and search on, say, "Rebecca artwork" - might find 'em...

Bob

Moat,

If you get the 'USB with persistence' thing figured out on MX, please let us know. I have a fond spot for MX when I first tried it about ~2yrs ago, and saw how nicely it was laid out (also I've always had and still do a current AntiX cd for running off of the Cd).

As far as Mint, is there any of us that hasn't tried it and/or still have it on one of our HDs' partitions? I do. Mint just keeps getting better and better and better, and they slowly but surely have left Ubuntu & Unity behind. Everything just works, and they include everything in the distro plus the Out house sink. Problem is, coming from the puppy world, I like to get my hands dirty sometimes, and there's nothing ever to do in Mint (actually, it is because you really can't customize Mint like you can most any other linux distro). But Mint, especially Sarah, sure has been stable for me, almost...dare I say...as stable as my trusty CentOS 7.

P.S. Any of you run Manjaro XFCE? I've been using it for ~3 weeks now on one machine and I am quite impressed how far along they've come. There's still some of the usual Manjaro problems (like their infernal bootloader never playing nice if any other Linux distro bootloader takes over, and their still quirkiness with the package managers & updating), but overall, Manjaro has done far more than any other distro---outside of Antergos----I can see to bring Arch to the masses or to those who no longer want to fool around going thru the lengthy steps to set up a full arch install. I'm too old anymore...lol.....to find the beauty in self-flagellation when setting up either a full Arch (and/or also Gentoo) install.

Posted: **Sat 17 Dec 2016, 17:39**

Colonel Panic wrote: I miss the old default Mint wallpaper, with the 3-D letters and numbers casting shadows on a grey background.

Oh, wait, d'oh - I see your old favorite wallpaper includes the release number in the artwork. Bummer, then. Unless you make/modify one yourself!

Bob

Posted: **Sat 17 Dec 2016, 17:43**

belham2 wrote: If you get the 'USB with persistence' thing figured out on MX, please let us know.

Will do. A short fit of researching it last night gave me the impression that it can only be done from a full install of MX to a hard drive. So... must find myself a spare hard drive...!

Bob

Posted: **Sun 18 Dec 2016, 00:36**

Moat wrote:
belham2 wrote: If you get the 'USB with persistence' thing figured out on MX, please let us know.
Will do. A short fit of researching it last night gave me the impression that it can only be done from a full install of MX to a hard drive. So... must find myself a spare hard drive...!

Bob

Wrong. Run it live not installed.

Posted: **Sun 18 Dec 2016, 01:09**

Ahh - good news... I'll dig further. Thanks, anticapitalista - and congrats on a great release!

Bob

Posted: **Sun 18 Dec 2016, 20:31**

I installed GeckoLinux_Gnome.x86_64-422.161213.0.iso (981MB) to the
hard drive of my hp desktop.

Computer
Processor 6x AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor
Memory 8174MB (935MB used)
Operating System openSUSE 42.2 (x86_64)
User Name bill (Bill)
Date/Time Sun 18 Dec 2016 03:16:02 PM EST
Display
Resolution 3840x1080 pixels
OpenGL Renderer Gallium 0.4 on AMD REDWOOD (DRM 2.43.0, LLVM 3.8.0)
X11 Vendor The X.Org Foundation
Version
Kernel Linux 4.4.36-8-default (x86_64)
Compiled #1 SMP Fri Dec 9 16:18:38 UTC 2016 (3ec5648)
C Library GNU C Library version 2.22 (git bbab82c25da9) (stable)
Default C Compiler Unknown
Distribution openSUSE 42.2 (x86_64)

I added my favorite applications with the package manager, it comes
with plenty by default.

It works well so far.

Posted: **Sun 18 Dec 2016, 22:11**

Moat wrote:Oh, wait, d'oh - I see your old favorite wallpaper includes the release number in the artwork.

Yes it does.

Moat wrote:Bummer, then. Unless you make/modify one yourself!

Bob

I don't think the numbers etc. in that image file can be edited directly (using GIMP or something similar), otherwise I'd have a go myself. I may ask on the Mint forums if anyone's managed to do it. Thanks for replying anyway Bob.

[EDIT: for the time being anyway I'm using this image as wallpaper. It's a picture of what I think is one of the world's most beautiful places, Patagonia in Argentina;

http://cdn.zoxexivo.com/blogphotos/pata ... nia-24.jpg

Posted: **Thu 22 Dec 2016, 22:58**

Hi all,

Below is a pic of the Porteus' gang latest 3.2.1 CINNAMON desktop, x86_64, 29 Nov 2016 ISO. Everything is based on Slackware 14.2 (USM Package Manager), and I gotta say, they really put together something nice here. Theme looks great, it still boots the lightening fast Porteus is known for, and it is smooth whether running off the SD card I installed it to, or running it fully in ram. The ISO comes 270MB. I installed (via the USM) the latest Firefox, Chrome, Mtpaint, Redshift & GTKHash modules, and it brought it all up ~390MB. With Gnome Player (and a lot of other stuff) already included by default, this Cinnamon edition is really nice. Congrats/Kudos to the Porteus team! Happy Holidays all!! (in the pic, the System Settings menu is on the left, the top right is Nemo file manager, below it is gnome-terminal, and then a shot of the taskbar menu with it resting on "Internet'.....it's a dual monitor setup, going right to left)

Posted: **Fri 23 Dec 2016, 22:45**

Fresh install of MX-16.
https://mxlinux.org/

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james@mx1:~
$ inxi -Fxx
System:    Host: mx1 Kernel: 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 x86_64 (64 bit gcc: 4.9.2)
           Desktop: Xfce 4.12.2 (Gtk 2.24.25) dm: lightdm
           Distro: MX-16_x64 Metamorphosis 12 December 2016
Machine:   Device: desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: M5A97 LE R2.0 v: Rev 1.xx
           BIOS: American Megatrends v: 2601 date: 03/24/2015
CPU:       Triple core AMD FX-6300 Six-Core (-HT-MCP-) cache: 6144 KB
           flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm) bmips: 21072
           clock speeds: min/max: 1400/3500 MHz 1: 2000 MHz 2: 1400 MHz 3: 2500 MHz 4: 2000 MHz
           5: 3000 MHz 6: 1400 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce 210] bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0a65
           Display Server: X.Org 1.16.4 drivers: nvidia (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa,nouveau)
           Resolution: 1440x900@59.89hz
           GLX Renderer: GeForce 210/PCIe/SSE2
           GLX Version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 340.96 Direct Rendering: Yes
Audio:     Card-1 NVIDIA High Definition Audio Controller
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0be3
           Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
           driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2 chip-ID: 1002:4383
           Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.7.0-0.bpo.1-amd64
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: d000 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
           IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: 1c:87:2c:5a:bb:e2
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 1120.2GB (1.2% used)
           ID-1: /dev/sda model: KINGSTON_SV300S3 size: 120.0GB serial: 50026B7256076A16
           ID-2: /dev/sdb model: WDC_WD10EZEX size: 1000.2GB serial: WD-WCC3F6XAKRLY
Partition: ID-1: / size: 96G used: 4.9G (6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb3
           ID-2: swap-1 size: 8.60GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb5
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 10.6C mobo: N/A gpu: 0.0:32C
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 0
Info:      Processes: 211 Uptime: 3 min Memory: 486.3/15953.8MB
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.88 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Gcc sys: 4.9.2
           Client: Shell (bash 4.3.301 running in xfce4-terminal) inxi: 2.3.5

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$ free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:      16336700    1106604   15230096      27048      25328     590732
-/+ buffers/cache:     490544   15846156
Swap:      8396796          0    8396796
$

Posted: **Sat 24 Dec 2016, 00:40**

Just migrated from mx-15 TO mx-16 ON THE SHOP computer.

Used.
https://forum.mxlinux.org/viewtopic.php ... 97#p402469

No need for a re-install. Went as smooth as silk.

Posted: **Sat 24 Dec 2016, 08:40**

James C wrote:Fresh install of MX-16.
https://mxlinux.org/

Everytime I see that background, I cannot help but think it is a Peppermint-based team, and not the antix/mx, distro.

Maybe the two should merge, the Peppermint's team expertise in making a cloud-based distro with MX's team making a solid, middleweight nice linux distro. Well ,maybe not, then it would become a fat beast like a few of the alternative (outside the big dogs of Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, Debian and OpenSUSE) distros are becoming.

Posted: **Tue 27 Dec 2016, 01:21**

I pretty much use MX all the time now. Installed MX 15 some time ago,...and just keep upgrading it. Don't see the need for anything else, since this is working so well.

Posted: **Wed 28 Dec 2016, 12:55**

nitehawk wrote:I pretty much use MX all the time now. Installed MX 15 some time ago,...and just keep upgrading it. Don't see the need for anything else, since this is working so well.

Good for you nitie! I could never get MX-15 to install on my machine (the installer always got stuck on 3%), but MX-16 may be different and it's on my list of distros to try very soon, along with the latest version of Salix..

I've just installed the latest version of Siduction (LXDE version), and it's working well so far except that when you're installing it, it obliges you to choose a partition for your home directory which is different from the one you use for your root directory. Whilst this may be a good idea, I'd still prefer to have the choice.

I also recently installed the latest version of Absolute (which is based on Slackware) and it took quite a lot of fiddling about to get it to work. PulseAudio was broken on my system so I had to remove it and then reinstall it, and I also installed some software (such as Midnight Commander) which is included with Vector but not with Absolute.

Thundetbird kept segfaulting as well, so I installed a much earlier one (version 10). It's all working now though.

@belham2: that idea (of the MX and Peppermint teams merging) sounds like a good one to me.

Posted: **Wed 28 Dec 2016, 20:16**

Kinda partial to MX-15, and 16 myself also. Have them running on 2 older emachines desktops, and one Dell Laptop, no problems.

Posted: **Mon 02 Jan 2017, 20:15**

Porteus-v3.2.2 final is released.

More: https://forum.porteus.org/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=6520

Cinnamon version tried - XFCE, KDE and Mate versions also available.

Quite big (272.5MB) given that it doesn't include a web browser.....

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