Saluki

[Sage]

Thanks, mush, for your alert and clarification!
Of course I read your red ink. Of course I didn't apply your 'temporary fix' to Saluki.
What I said was 'thanks' to aarf for highlighting this issue and pointing to your posting. Hopefully that's what other readers did.
This obscure problem will not go away, however determined some developers are to overlook or ignore it. Frankly, I've never seen it before, so I was heartened to learn that other folks had.
With absolutely no skills or knowledge of coding, surely a looping fault can be isolated by those who do? Attention to details like this is imperative before releasing gold. Some giant corporations persistently failed to do this and became the pariahs of the patch. No, not that patch - the cabbage patch.

Later: rerwin to the rescue? :-
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 646#622646

[Geoffrey]

speed dial cannot move entries to rearrange them

Strange, that is working for me.......

My mistake it is working, I wasn't holding my mouth right I'll correct my previous post

[Volhout]

I have connected with wireless on the Asus Eee PC with
Saluki 019.

This has been a Class A stinker 4 wireless.

No Puppeeee or Fluppy has got this to connect.
I may have seen the encrypted network but this netbook
refused to work in any Puppy till today.

So I'll keep testing a few Pups while I have
this netbook available today.

The sound is really low.

cthisbear

I have Slacko 5.3.2.7 running on the exact same HW. Fast and flawles.
It even supports most of the function keys.

[nooby]

cthisbear says "The sound is really low. "

My experience is that all puppy have low sound.
Not sure why. But it helps sometimes to right click
the loudspeaker icon in tray and check all the many volumes there.
But sometimes that does not help much. But it is often worth it.

[jim3630]

attempted get Tor to work as in other puppies by opening tor tar ball in root/my-applications/lib. after usual changes to script it would not execute. restarted x without change.

any idea how to get Tor to work or do we need a Tor version in the repo for it to work?

[oliverjames]

cthisbear says "The sound is really low. "

My experience is that all puppy have low sound.
Not sure why. But it helps sometimes to right click
the loudspeaker icon in tray and check all the many volumes there.
But sometimes that does not help much. But it is often worth it.

I don't find Puppy to be anymore problematic than other Linux distros. I'm currently using Saluki to run my "multimeda" Asus Eeebox.
It handles:
sound out thro a usb DAC sound card,
input thro the onboard card for audacity recordings,
usb (webcam) mic input for Skype.
All very musical.
I've run this setup with 5.2.8 with similar success, but I've always found XFCE to be my desktop of choice so it's Saluki for me.

[jemimah]

Saluki-21 is out. This included the new midori, fixed ogle, and pupsaveconfig-2.2.1.

Can we have a 20 > 21 diff file please. I have a very slow connection ATM.

eCube has uploaded one. Thanks.

[jemimah]

Thanks, mush, for your alert and clarification!
Of course I read your red ink. Of course I didn't apply your 'temporary fix' to Saluki.
What I said was 'thanks' to aarf for highlighting this issue and pointing to your posting. Hopefully that's what other readers did.
This obscure problem will not go away, however determined some developers are to overlook or ignore it. Frankly, I've never seen it before, so I was heartened to learn that other folks had.
With absolutely no skills or knowledge of coding, surely a looping fault can be isolated by those who do? Attention to details like this is imperative before releasing gold. Some giant corporations persistently failed to do this and became the pariahs of the patch. No, not that patch - the cabbage patch.

Later: rerwin to the rescue? :-
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 646#622646

If only one person reports it and I can't reproduce it, I assume its a PEBKAC error or a hardware anomaly unless I get a decent bug report.

In any case it certainly has nothing to do with the wmpoweroff script. However downgrading pupsaveconfig (to an older one from the saluki repo) may possibly help.

[21js]

problem I have with Saluki

I cannot see how to view hard drive partition after the first time without unmounting it then remounting it again

However if I have neglected to unmount a .iso file before closing the file manager window it is not possible to unmount the drive nor return to the iso file to unmount it.

Perhaps I am missing something?

[jemimah]

Tried to compile a driver in luki 020 and get

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Can't locate Class/Struct.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/share/autoconf /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.1/i486-t2-linux-gnu /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1/i486-t2-linux-gnu /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.1/i486-t2-linux-gnu /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl .) at /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.1/File/stat.pm line 27.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/5.10.1/File/stat.pm line 27.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/share/autoconf/Autom4te/FileUtils.pm line 42.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/autoconf/Autom4te/FileUtils.pm line 42.

If I remember correctly they were some changes in devx relating to perl. Is this related?

Yes you need to install perl and friends to compile stuff now. It's a pain, but otherwise perl apps' dependencies do not resolve.

Worked, but I think you could add the packages as dependencies to perl_DEV. This should not messup other packages requiring perl(modules) and make installation easy.
If this is not kosher, what about a mock pet to pull the deps?

I have fixed the dependencies of perl_DEV.

[DaveS]

Oh GOD I am so SICK of Midori! Never have I had such a love/hate relationship with a piece of software. Just now It hung and I had to kill it. Now it seg faults all the time. I just cant face another save file re-build.....

[jemimah]

problem I have with Saluki

I cannot see how to view hard drive partition after the first time without unmounting it then remounting it again

However if I have neglected to unmount a .iso file before closing the file manager window it is not possible to unmount the drive nor return to the iso file to unmount it.

Perhaps I am missing something?

Mounted drives show up in Thunar side bar.

ISOs can be unmounted from the drive mounter applet. The are the ones with pluses in the name.

[jemimah]

Oh GOD I am so SICK of Midori! Never have I had such a love/hate relationship with a piece of software. Just now It hung and I had to kill it. Now it seg faults all the time. I just cant face another save file re-build.....

Did you do an upgrade? My copy of midori .4.5 has been rock solid and I've been unable to crash it so far. But I always use a fresh save. You might be able to salvage it by deleting /root/.config/midori.

[Sage]

If only one person reports it

Please refer to http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 983#622983
and work on it by rerwin. We are not alone!
For the record, I might've overlooked reporting it until 21 arrived had it not been reported by another correspondent. Following the thread and rerwin's discourse shows that it has been reported previously (he doesn't report where, by whom and how often) and is a known bug, Sadly rerwin's patch aggravated the situation.
The good news is that UPGRADE to 21 from the misbehaving 20 seems to have cured it - at least for me. Should be some clues in there somewhere for the cognoscenti?

For the record, although I am NOT a coder, I don't tend to report spurious problems in alphas & betas, especially as I don't understand anything at all about the SW iteration procedures. Sometimes I misunderstand the coder-speak, but apart from that I try to find user issues likely to kill incomers interest at a stroke. It's very, very easy to deter users. Sadly, they'd be missing a first class piece of work with Saluki - we should all endeavour to avoid that.
Nothing personal, just trying to be a good scientist. It's all about collating observations from as wide a source as possible.

[jemimah]

Anything in recent puplets is an unrelated coincidence. If it is now fixed, it was probably a bad install.

Developers are also easily deterred. Whining, sarcasm, etc makes me remember what a waste of time this all is.

[DaveS]

makes me remember what a waste of time this all is.

Except for the overwhelming gratitude of the silent majority. Spurred on by the delight that is Saluki+Xfce, I downloaded the debian xfce edition of Mint. Download took two hours. St*ff me, it would not even boot!
Sure there are critics. If someone discovered a cure for cancer there would be a pressure group against it. Its just the nature of this utterly hopeless species.

[Sage]

Whining, sarcasm, etc

Might be guilty of 'etc', not the former pair. Don't forget Mr Churchill's exposition: two nations divided by a common language. One man's humour may be another woman's sarcasm?
As for 'waste of time', what else might one engage in? There's a giant asteroid with our name on it due in 2036. If we don't stop emitting, the next ice-age will be along sooner. If we don't stop breeding, we'll all die of thirst and starvation, assuming the usual expedient of mutual self-extinction doesn't takes us all out first?
What should we do? Read Dawkins?!
In the meantime, Saluki seems like a good idea.

PS. Sorry, Dave, never had an issue with any of the versions of Mint Xfce. Fully featured for all those bytes, no need to mess with FP & co. - it's all there, OOTB. Seems to be the consensus on Distrowatch, too.

[jim3630]

Whining, sarcasm, etc

Might be guilty of 'etc', not the former pair. .

1+ whinning sarcasm. I've posted this to you before.

you are the only one reporting it Saluki. this goes back to your earlier

inability to understand the first paragraph on the first page here.

you are one of the most if not the most bitching self important know it alls on this board. instead of trying to understand where she is coming from. she the programmer who has hand held you through pfix=nox. you try to argue your position. a self admitted self evident uneducated non programing skill level.

then you try to blame something else, language differences, grow up and take
some responsibility instead of harassing hard working people.

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again in your last post your off topic. you have been asked before not
to use this thread to air your unrelated opinions.

your a big bullying baby.

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oh, not to forget your self proclaimed bigot and slanderer.

[jemimah]

makes me remember what a waste of time this all is.

Except for the overwhelming gratitude of the silent majority. Spurred on by the delight that is Saluki+Xfce, I downloaded the debian xfce edition of Mint. Download took two hours. St*ff me, it would not even boot!
Sure there are critics. If someone discovered a cure for cancer there would be a pressure group against it. Its just the nature of this utterly hopeless species.

It's not really the users that make it feel like a waste of time. The waste is that it takes so many hours, but then it's worthless in a short time if you don't maintain it. It's like a plant that needs to be watered constantly. To what end?

[DaveS]

it's worthless in a short time if you don't maintain it. It's like a plant that needs to be watered constantly. To what end?

That is not entirely true. XP? Still the worlds most used distro. Sometimes, a line has to be drawn.