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Posted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 00:24
by 01micko
Lobster wrote:could the devs not do this.....
They have their reasons - maybe not being aware of it is one of the reasons.
[snip]
Do what?
[I must have missed it sorry EDIT: ah Dave! Good point]
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Anyways, regarding Barrys post about USB booting, I think it still works fairly right without building usb_storage into the kernel. I haven't really the time to recompile again and I think in other regards this kernel seems pretty solid and stable, although it may be why Béèm's machine is a little warmer than usual. I trust it doesn't exceed manufacturer's specification? It's cool as a cucumber on my test machines (between 45 and 55 C, my main box has never exceeded 50 under heavy compiling conditions).
Brown Mouse.. new tray icon theme
. I will offer alternatives.
I am off to purchase a radeon graphics card. Hopefully I can have the ati catalyst driver up by tonight
Cheers
Posted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 00:49
by Lobster
01micko wrote:I am off to purchase a radeon graphics card. Hopefully I can have the ati catalyst driver up by tonight
Cheers
I knew your new job would come in useful
Here is where the Slacko magic takes place:
overlooked by 'Santas Little Helper' aka Billy
http://users.tpg.com.au/01micko/theshed.html
No paypal donations?
PS.
I think I use the same electrician . . .
Posted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 05:00
by 01micko
<--------------<<< haha! Yep I have immortalised Billy in cartoon form Ed
Ok, ATI catalyst fglrx driver is compiled and uploaded.
I will need help with the pinstall script, so Lobster, mikesLr, davids45, Billtoo, playdayz.. anyone else with a late model Radeon video card please test and report your experience. It is not recommended to install the driver pfix=ram unless you are running the vesa driver, because radeon modeset=0 is running now and then you get no console when you install the driver !!!
It's written in the pinstall. I do have to improve it though, the driver does work ok for me.
Here it is:
http://brainwavedesigncentral.net/micko ... 37.6-s.pet.. a whopper at 50M (about 137M installed, so make sure your save is big enough!)
The intention is to have this available from the slickpet/drivers tab.. slickpet detects save size and aborts if you don't have the space, warns if you are short on space. It also does an integrity check.
Now onto intel Brookdale
Posted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 10:23
by Lobster
OK just ran/installed over my existing slacko
'aticonfig --install' ran OK but did not do anything visible on the command line . . .
xwin gave me a BSOD and I rebooted
I was given a choice of normal boot (xorgwizard ran automatically) or command line
I accidentally pressed normal
but it worked
glxgears is a little faster
Here is the test video from slickpet
Sat 13 Aug 2011 Operating System: Slacko Puppy-312.37 Linux 2.6.37.6
0.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV710 [Radeon HD 4350]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS product: RV710 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: vesa
X.Org version: 1.9.5
dimensions: 1280x1024 pixels (338x270 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: ATI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series
OpenGL version string: 3.3.10907 Compatibility Profile Context
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+
Core 0: 2593 1: 2593 MHz
...the above also recorded at '/tmp/root/report-video-glx'.
update
tried running Secondlife
Not up to it - was getting window display error (plus loads of others)
Posted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 10:27
by vanchutr
To 01micko
Cannot boot slacko 312.37 frugal-installed on USB-Flash (without harddisk)
I can boot slacko 312.37 frugal-installed on USB-Flash (on system with hard disk, even if this hard disk not contained anything of slacko)
Posted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 10:43
by 01micko
Lobster wrote:
X Server: Xorg Driver: vesa
Hmm.. bad news Lobster, driver should be
fglrx. Try xorgwizard from prompt >choose and from the list "fglrx". Select resolution and xwin back to X. If that fails, try at the prompt in console mode (out of X) the
aticonfig --initial again. Maybe backup the pupsave first if you have valuable data there.. erm we are still alpha
Oh and Lobster, davids45 reports success with the same driver/kernel in the triple headed dog offshoot by playdayz.
vanchutr wrote:To 01micko
Cannot boot slacko 312.37 frugal-installed on USB-Flash (without harddisk)
I can boot slacko 312.37 frugal-installed on USB-Flash (on system with hard disk, even if this hard disk not contained anything of slacko)
Thanks for the report. Will investigate.
Posted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 11:00
by Lobster
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Sat 13 Aug 2011 Operating System: Slacko Puppy-312.37 Linux 2.6.37.6
0.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV710 [Radeon HD 4350]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS product: RV710 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.9.5
dimensions: 1280x1024 pixels (338x270 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+
Core 0: 2593 1: 2593 MHz
...the above also recorded at '/tmp/root/report-video-glx'.
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# glxgears
Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0".
Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
# glxgears
Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0".
Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
#
OK choose the fglrx - any closer?
Posted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 11:05
by Lobster
triple headed dog offshoot by playdayz
Already grown another head?
Fluffy - how you been boy?
http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Fluffy
Posted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 11:06
by 01micko
Ok Lobster.. um.. not really any closer.. drop to the prompt and try the aticonfig --initial again, then xwin. If it besods, type ctrl>alt>backspace, then type reboot, don't hit the power button.
Posted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 13:08
by Lobster
01micko wrote:Ok Lobster.. um.. not really any closer.. drop to the prompt and try the aticonfig --initial again, then xwin.
Did above
got below
(glxgears no faster) - so going to do a reboot from prompt
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Sat 13 Aug 2011 Operating System: Slacko Puppy-312.37 Linux 2.6.37.6
0.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV710 [Radeon HD 4350]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS product: RV710 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: fglrxdrm: vendor=FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc.
X.Org version: 1.9.5
dimensions: 1280x1024 pixels (338x270 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: ATI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series
OpenGL version string: 3.3.10907 Compatibility Profile Context
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+
Core 0: 2593 1: 2593 MHz
It seems OK and glxgears is faster but not as fast as it has been in Lucid
Posted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 18:25
by Stripe
Hi all
tried a manual frugal install on usb stick with grub4dos and boots ok here (with a hard drive installed)
hope that helps
stripe
Posted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 21:52
by 01micko
Stripe wrote:Hi all
tried a manual frugal install on usb stick with grub4dos and boots ok here (with a hard drive installed)
hope that helps
stripe
Hmm.. yes thanks Stripe. Seems to me grub4dos is very good with USB drives. I have grub4dos on my 2GB SD card that has slacko, old spup and puppeee installed with libreoffice-sfs and skype! What other distro can do that? The
only thing that bothers me is vanchutr's report of
failing when the HDD is removed. I'm going to try it with different methods of USB install, and if I can get at least 1 to boot I'll leave the kernel.. else I'll have to recompile with usb_storage built in to the kernel, which will mean recompiling all those drivers!!
---Onwards..
Anyone know the game TORCS? Well it runs fine in Slacko, just needs one small dependency. [I simply had to try out a game once I got the new radeon card!]
http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/lupu520 ... .3.1-2.sfs 146M
7980eb799b43dbcfa56ca1ec0b5c28e9 torcs-1.3.1-2.sfs
See attachment for deps.
Have fun
Posted: Sat 13 Aug 2011, 21:56
by zigbert
Torcs
Shouldn't that be in Slickpet
Posted: Sun 14 Aug 2011, 06:44
by 01micko
Charlie.. MHHP.. anyone else with an Intel Brookdale chipset (cowboy, you have one.. James .. you too)..
I have experienced exactly what Charlie described with my Brookdale by having no text in menus, a fuzzy section near centre screen,, only when the widescreen LCD monitor is used. When I plugged it into an old 15" CRT all was perfect ..
.. which actually makes things worse as there are literally millions of different monitor and screen brands. Maybe, before I try to do gymnastics with xorgwizard, I'll re-compile i915. It can't hurt. I'll do this for the next version and we go from there.
Posted: Sun 14 Aug 2011, 07:05
by James C
01micko wrote:Charlie.. MHHP.. anyone else with an Intel Brookdale chipset (cowboy, you have one.. James .. you too)..
I have experienced exactly what Charlie described with my Brookdale by having no text in menus, a fuzzy section near centre screen,, only when the widescreen LCD monitor is used. When I plugged it into an old 15" CRT all was perfect ..
.. which actually makes things worse as there are literally millions of different monitor and screen brands. Maybe, before I try to do gymnastics with xorgwizard, I'll re-compile i915. It can't hurt. I'll do this for the next version and we go from there.
I'll drag mine off the shelf tomorrow and give it a go.
I generally use it on a CRT monitor but I'll try it on my LCD too.Heading toward 3 am here so I need sleep first.
Posted: Sun 14 Aug 2011, 08:03
by charlie6
Hi 01micko,
01micko wrote:Charlie.. MHHP.. anyone else with an Intel Brookdale chipset (cowboy, you have one.. James .. you too)..
errh ... what does MHHP acronym(?) mean ?
01micko wrote:I have experienced exactly ... only when the widescreen LCD monitor is used. When I plugged it into an old 15" CRT all was perfect ..
I remember, by 7 or 8 august (before my 9th august post on page 20 this thread) getting also a fuzzy screen and no menu text when used on a 17" CRT monitor. Will get (within a few days as I am out of work now) a try applying the i845G.conf and disable-composite.conf files.
I also installed the following:
mesa-7.10.2-i486-1.txz + needed
xf86-video-intel-2.15.0-i486-1.txz
libdrm-2.4.25-i486-1.txz
glew-1.5.7-i486-1.txz
with Load glx and Load DRI manualy enabled in xorg.conf;
my spupsave file is 256MB sized with freespace= 117MB.
In attachment my current xorg.conf file;
also installed: a wacom Bamboo tablet - see driver here:
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-bc55bec0.html
and go this
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# lspci | grep VGA
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 01)
# glxinfo
name of display: :0
display: :0 screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
server glx extensions:
...
GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer, GLX_INTEL_swap_event
client glx vendor string: Mesa Project and SGI
client glx version string: 1.4
client glx extensions:
...
GLX_INTEL_swap_event
GLX version: 1.4
GLX extensions:
...
GLX_INTEL_swap_event
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa Project
OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.10.2
OpenGL shading language version string: 1.20
OpenGL extensions:
...
# glxgears
434 frames in 5.0 seconds = 86.760 FPS
568 frames in 5.0 seconds = 113.553 FPS
560 frames in 5.0 seconds = 111.873 FPS
568 frames in 5.0 seconds = 113.259 FPS
557 frames in 5.0 seconds = 111.381 FPS
558 frames in 5.0 seconds = 111.595 FPS
512 frames in 5.0 seconds = 102.341 FPS
516 frames in 5.0 seconds = 102.951 FPS
536 frames in 5.0 seconds = 107.074 FPS
563 frames in 5.0 seconds = 112.326 FPS
509 frames in 5.0 seconds = 101.650 FPS
...
^C
#
CPU temperature is given 64°C while running glxgears after ca. 5 minutes (52°C if not).
Using this configuration since quite a week ... all looks OK.
Cheers, Charlie
Posted: Sun 14 Aug 2011, 08:04
by DaveS
Given that Seamonkey is broken just now, would Firefox/SM 2.0.* be a better choice?
Posted: Sun 14 Aug 2011, 08:19
by 01micko
Charlie, Thanks again. I will try with the wide monitor. By the way, MHHP is for forum member MineHundHettePerro
Dave, I'm thinking to go with sm-2.3beta, will compile tonight. And what I'd love to do is have both FF and SM on the iso as sfs and hitting the browse button the first time gives the option to load either.. we'll see..
Posted: Sun 14 Aug 2011, 09:31
by zigbert
MHHP should be read "my dog's name was Perro"
Posted: Sun 14 Aug 2011, 09:35
by 01micko
...Perro being Spanish for "dog".. so there is out Swedish/Spanish lesson for the day from a Norwegian and an Australian..