Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series

[yorkiesnorkie]

I'm D/Ling RC5 now. What kind of chance of this working on this:

Dell Latitude LT: 266 MHz MMX, maxed at 64 MB RAM, 6GB HDD, with external CD, no floppy, and a BIOS that won't allow USB boot.

Thanks.

Reasonably good, I've got 96 mb of ram. What I do is boot from the live cd, and use gparted to create an ext2 partition and linux-swap space. That means re-sizing your fat32 partition down some. make sure you back up files first. The following applies to a PC with a FAT32 partition for windows already on it. If you've got NTFS you'll need to do more research here and don't follow these directions.

I do recommend the frugal install to the ext2 partition. Your swap will be 128 mb, and the ext2 will need to accomodate both grub, the frugal install and your pup save files. I'd recommend at least 1gb for that. So you'll need to reduce your fat32 by that much before you can use the free space, then make the ext2 partition and finally the linux-swap. If your setup is like mine you can dual boot windows or linux pretty easily. Gparted is pretty easy to use.

Run the installer(s), from the menu, to install puppy and Grub. With regard to grub it's going to dev/hda2. I go with the defaults and use the MBR. Grub will install an entry for windows automatically if you've got that installed.

With regard to grub which has to be installed to the ext2 partition after it is installed check the menu.list file to see what is in it. I use this to boot:

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#Start of 214x 
title = Puppy 214x (frugal) on hda2 
rootnoverify (hd0,1) 
kernel (hd0,1)/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 pmedia=idehd 
initrd (hd0,1)/initrd.gz 
#End of 214x

I had a few issues with the default grub entry but arrived at this and it works. "hd0,0" is "c", "hd0,1" is the ext2 partition (also known as hda2).

Y.

[mrreality13]

Hi Gang,
hope every ones well.i just wanted to pop in and say thanx to ttuuxxx and evey one else helping to keep this pup alive.I never looked at a classic pup before this recomendation from looseSCREWorTWO

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http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=57810

And now for older HW i will never look at another puppy no matter how cute and cuddley it looks
only 2 lil things
1) i installed opera 9.6 static runs awsome -way better than any other browser imo on my older HW
2)I wish i could get vlc to work in 214x-rc5(hint hint nudge nudge)
Ive tried sevral of the 0.86 ones floatin around and always get a ton of 'your missing this lib and that lib"
guess im just spoiled from the newer pups ive play'd with,Ive relised vid's will never work on this old lappy but want vlc as it still lets me use shoutcast streams.

Ill do some more reading and searching here to try to solve my vlc issue before i come yelping for help.Hell thats fun ,in and of its self sometimes ,,becidesif i break it too bad it only takes 15 mins for a fresh FULL install.

The niceness and helpfulness here always impresses me

[rjbrewer]

Hi Gang,
hope every ones well.i just wanted to pop in and say thanx to ttuuxxx and evey one else helping to keep this pup alive.I never looked at a classic pup before this recomendation from looseSCREWorTWO

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http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=57810

And now for older HW i will never look at another puppy no matter how cute and cuddley it looks
only 2 lil things
1) i installed opera 9.6 static runs awsome -way better than any other browser imo on my older HW
2)I wish i could get vlc to work in 214x-rc5(hint hint nudge nudge)
Ive tried sevral of the 0.86 ones floatin around and always get a ton of 'your missing this lib and that lib"
guess im just spoiled from the newer pups ive play'd with,Ive relised vid's will never work on this old lappy but want vlc as it still lets me use shoutcast streams.

Ill do some more reading and searching here to try to solve my vlc issue before i come yelping for help.Hell thats fun ,in and of its self sometimes ,,becidesif i break it too bad it only takes 15 mins for a fresh FULL install.

The niceness and helpfulness here always impresses me

I use full installs exclusively;

If I break something I run the full install from the live cd and choose the
"upgrade" option. No need to make or delete a partition or reinstall
Grub.

One of my installs is Jemimahs' "Fluppy".
I used her "Puppy Remaster" to make a bootable cd clone of the
full install that's the same size as the original live cd ( the ultimate
backup).
She based the remaster app. on "Dougals remaster script", which
may possibly work on 214x.

Her "Fluppy" is the only new kernel version that lets me use Vlc 0.8.6
Lite (my favorite for all video and audio).

[ttuuxxx]

2)I wish i could get vlc to work in 214x-rc5(hint hint nudge nudge)
Ive tried sevral of the 0.86 ones floatin around and always get a ton of 'your missing this lib and that lib"
guess im just spoiled from the newer pups ive play'd with,Ive relised vid's will never work on this old lappy but want vlc as it still lets me use shoutcast streams.

Hi 2.14X has Streamtuner which plays shoutcast, also I had the VLCl lite working before on 2.14X, I'll package it up this weekend for you.
ttuuxxx

[crsrds]

Hi,
I was trying to set up a printer (HP deskjet d1460) and had some difficulty. Went thru the puppy forums and installed CUPS 1.3.11. It installed well and when I opened CUPS which got a menu entry now under System, clicked Administration/Find a printer, it automatically detected the printer and installed it. Yes, I did download the HPLS and install it too.
I restarted and have no problem with 214. The question I have is: Is there any downside to using CUPS 1.3.11 or any know issues with it? Why do we use an older version of CUPS? Pl throw some light on it.
Thanks in advance.

[DaveS]

Is this now the longest forum thread?

[heywoodj]

What I do is boot from the live cd...

If only it were that simple.
Having now tried 2.14X, I can report that it fails to completely boot, just like all the other versions. I have now a swap partition via Deli Linux (Thanks, zenfunk), and things seem to be booting okay, "Loading kernel modules,... Looking for Puppy in hda1...Looking (further) for pup_save.2fs ..." .

All of a sudden it fails with:

" ERROR, cannot find Puppy on 'idecd' boot media.
PUPMODE=1 PDEV1=
Exited to initial-ramdisk (/dev/ram0) commandline...
(the linux-guru can now debug, 'e3' editor is available)

/bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off"

Did I get a bad burn on the CD, or what is going on?

[James C]

Is this now the longest forum thread?

Believe so................

[ttuuxxx]

Is this now the longest forum thread?

Yes Dave it is, Pwidgets was the leader and 2.14X toppled it and stole the title as largest thread, Pwidgets stands at 193 pages, http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=35601
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

Hi,
I was trying to set up a printer (HP deskjet d1460) and had some difficulty. Went thru the puppy forums and installed CUPS 1.3.11. It installed well and when I opened CUPS which got a menu entry now under System, clicked Administration/Find a printer, it automatically detected the printer and installed it. Yes, I did download the HPLS and install it too.
I restarted and have no problem with 214. The question I have is: Is there any downside to using CUPS 1.3.11 or any know issues with it? Why do we use an older version of CUPS? Pl throw some light on it.
Thanks in advance.

Hi
Cups is basically a gui or frontend to printing software. It uses ghostscript as the backend most of the time. I'm using a earlier version of cups because the later version had improved security that crippled printing on puppy, basically the newer packages you'll find on the forum have large security holes in it so that it executes properly. I would rather have better security. really most people would only need some newer updated drivers, I don't include them , because it would increase the base distro size, hmmmm I should compile the latest ghostscript.
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

here's an updated faad2 and I had to patch the make file so it would compile correctly, below also is the patched sources.
ttuuxxx

[ttuuxxx]

hmmm I tried to patch VLC but I only had audio, hmmmm do I tempt to recompile VLC 0.8.6h again. What a risk, it took so long last line, but 2.14X does have a few extra libs so it might be quicker.
ttuuxxx

[sinc]

so, i gave it go... i tried to see if I could get chromium working on 214x. wow was that confusing. so the answer is no, personally i am not far enough along yet to be able to get it to work. i didn't even know what they were talking about on some of the stuff on the build page. oh well, its fun learning. I am WAY beyond what i knew a year ago.

[crsrds]

Thank you tuuxxx for clarifying the CUPS aspect. I guess, leaving aside the security, I can continue using the newer version. 'Find Printer' makes things easier for a greenhorn like me. I agree that we need to keep the distro size small.

[tomo3]

so, i gave it go... i tried to see if I could get chromium working on 214x. wow was that confusing. so the answer is no, personally i am not far enough along yet to be able to get it to work. i didn't even know what they were talking about on some of the stuff on the build page. oh well, its fun learning. I am WAY beyond what i knew a year ago.

Hi,
I announced to a Japanese forum in January this year.

google-chrome-214X.pet 19mb https://sites.google.com/site/tomo37798 ... ects=0&d=1

The version improves easily because this pet became old a little.

If--- Dev latest version of wolfe 's package is downloaded and defrosted.

Next, it copies it onto directory of opt/google/chrome that installs the following files.

chrome 　　chrome-sandbox 　chrome park 　libgflashplayer.so 　plagin.ivh　resorces.pak 　local

\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\

tomo3

[ttuuxxx]

Hi,
I announced to a Japanese forum in January this year.

google-chrome-214X.pet 19mb https://sites.google.com/site/tomo37798 ... ects=0&d=1

tomo3

Nice works well and its not too large either 19MB pet
ttuuxxx

[sinc]

tomo, thank you very much. it does work fantastically. and i didn't look inside the pet to see what dependencies you fixed but i appreciate it. i went into opt and deleted chrome and downloaded the new version from their website and it works perfectly. it really flies on 214x. thank you again. i will sleep happily tonight

[sinc]

ttuuxxx, one other thing. if you decide to come out with another updated release of 214X take a look at the netsurf program being used in the new puppies. it seems to work really well compared to dillo. i never used dillo but i enjoy netsurf. i'm just interested in your opinion on it. you usually understand size and workings of these things better than most of us

[James C]

I grabbed the Google Chrome pet and it works pretty well. Posting from it now.
FWIW, I personally prefer Dillo over NetSurf.Then again, I've used Dillo more.............

[mrreality13]

Hi,
I announced to a Japanese forum in January this year.

google-chrome-214X.pet 19mb https://sites.google.com/site/tomo37798 ... ects=0&d=1

tomo3

Nice works well and its not too large either 19MB pet
ttuuxxx

nice job on making this thank you runs good on my 10 yr old lappy