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#41 Post by MU »

Have a look at this picture:

http://noforum.de/dotpups/megapuppytest.png

I created a usr_more.sfs with KDE, Java, Apache, all Multimedia-codecs (mplayer+KLH), OpenOffice2, Wine. It is 215 MB in Size (contains 677 MB of Data).

Runs very smooth :P
And gcc works too with usr_devx.sfs

The screenshot was taken on Puppy without xorg, but it works with x.org, too.
Be aware that just 63 MB of Pup001 are used! 8)

Unfortunately I don't have space left at noforum.de, so no download :cry:

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#42 Post by klhrevolutionist »

Well not to be negative but I tried out both bombays & MU little setup & neither worked. But, I am using a hard drive install so it may have something to do with that ? In fact trying MU's package instructions with the dotpup it broke something and I was unable to open a terminal thus I had to re-install puppy. Not worried about re-installing but for others using a hard drive they might. Just a warning for those on a hard drive install
Heaven is on the way, until then let's get the truth out!
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#43 Post by Lobster »

MU wrote:Have a look at this picture:

http://noforum.de/dotpups/megapuppytest.png

I created a usr_more.sfs with KDE, Java, Apache, all Multimedia-codecs (mplayer+KLH), OpenOffice2, Wine. It is 215 MB in Size (contains 677 MB of Data).

Runs very smooth :P
And gcc works too with usr_devx.sfs

The screenshot was taken on Puppy without xorg, but it works with x.org, too.
Be aware that just 63 MB of Pup001 are used! 8)

Unfortunately I don't have space left at noforum.de, so no download :cry:

Mark
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http://www.filefactory.com/

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#44 Post by MU »

Thanks Lobster.

I just tried it at a similar service http://www.rapidupload.com/

After 2-3 hours, the file was sent.
Now the page should change to one, that shows me the link to download.

But just the .gif-animation of the progressbar stays visible :?

Maybe I'll try it with your link tomorrow.

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#45 Post by bombayrockers »

klh i have found out that puppy user duke93535 has been able to make a successful kde install in hd #2 install of puppy based on the instructions given in "How i got kde in puppy". i have asked him to help with the hd install of kde.

you can try extracting the usr_more.sfs to /root/.usr
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#46 Post by Nathan F »

I'm sorry, I should have posted the error info earlier. I've been at work all day. Here's the Kmail error when fetching mail:

Code: Select all

# kmail: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Unable to create io-slave:
klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_pop3'.
And here's the one when trying to send:

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kmail:
QWidget::setMaximumSize: (unnamed/RecipientComboBox) The largest allowed size is (32767,32767)
kmail: ERROR: : couldn't create slave : Unable to create io-slave:
klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_smtp'.
kmail:
*** KMail got signal 11 (Crashing)
KCrash: Application 'kmail' crashing...
At which point the program crashes completely. Not too saavy on KDE myself so I can't tell what's broken from this. This error was on a completely fresh install without any tampering, and I've gotten it repeatedly.

I'll make a usr_devx.sfs sans QT and get it uploaded sometime in the morning. I also did some playing around with the filestructure and came up with something interesting. I put everything that was in /root/.opt and moved it to /usr/local/.opt, changed the code in rc.local to point /opt there, and symlinked /root/.opt to the same place (necessary because some things are set to look in /root/.opt instead of just /opt). The files inside pup001 now take up only 1.7MB as /usr/local/.opt is inside the squash file. This only increases the size of the squash file by about 5-6 MB.

I've also managed to get it running admirably well in Grafpup after removing QT. The only hitch seems to be that it breaks Scribus somehow. I have to look at that problem a little closer.

All in all this is good work, but Kmail is a major issue for me.

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#47 Post by bombayrockers »

Nathan are you able to restore configuration changes after boot with /root/.opt in usr_more. i excluded /root/.opt from usr_more because i thought that usr_more is mounted read only, so changes would be lost during reboot.

the kmail error looks serious. i have no idea what that means. however it is possible to use sylpheed in place on kmail by changing settings in control center.
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#48 Post by MU »

I did not have a look at Barry K.s KDE yet, but I think he might have done the same, as he just supplies an usr_more.sfs , but no additional FILESYSTEM.tgz.

I thought of trying it too, but had no time yet.
If it works, we should add that, too.

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#49 Post by Nathan F »

The file usr_more itself is mounted read only, but /usr itself is writeable so any changes in /usr/local/opt will persist after a reboot. Try deleting a file out of /usr sometime and you'll see that it works because of unionfs. The file will still exist in usr_cram.fs but there will be another file in /root/.usr that overrides it and makes the system ignore it.

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#50 Post by MU »

Ok.
I currently try to upload my mega-usr_more.sfs , that still uses the old structure.
But this is just intended for testing anyway.

For the next version, I will merge FILESYSTEM.tgz in it.

I also will have a look at kmail tomorrow, if possible.

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#51 Post by MU »

Mega-Puppy 001

This file contains KDE (from Bombayrockers), Java (SUN), Apache (from DSL), Open Office 2 (from Grafpup), Wine (from grafpup), and all videocodecs posted in the past (from MPlayer and from KlhRevolutionist). All together 677 MB of Software.

See a picture here:
http://noforum.de/dotpups/megapuppytest.png

IMPORTANT:
We encountered some Problems with KDE.
So make a Backup of your existing pup001 before installing it!

To install it, follow the instructions in this message:
http://www.murga.org/%7Epuppy/viewtopic ... 2565#22565

Simply use this usr_more.sfs instead of downloading the one mentioned there.

Download (215 MB):
http://www.puptrix.org/mega/usr_more.sfs
Thanks to Ted from http://puptrix.org for hosting !

or Download via filesharing with Internet Explorer (215 MB):
http://www.filefactory.com/get/f.php?f= ... d352d8f493


To use Java, you must enter this comand only once:
ln -s /usr/local/jre1.5.0_04/bin/java /usr/bin/java


To use Apache, create an "index.htm" in
/root/.usr/local/wwwroot/htdocs
After that, use the folder
/usr/local/wwwroot/htdocs


To use Openoffice, drag
/usr/local/OOo-2.0/program/soffice
or
/usr/local/OOo-2.0/program/swriter
to your Desktop from ROX (click on the "Home"-Icon on your Desktop to open ROX).

If you want to use the developper-addon usr_devx.sfs, see this message:
http://www.murga.org/%7Epuppy/viewtopic ... 2910#22910

Also have a look at the "Boosted Puppy" kernel, that speeds up things even more:
http://www.murga.org/%7Epuppy/viewtopic.php?t=3679

Greets, Mark
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#52 Post by MU »

uuuuuhhhhhh....
it seems the download just works with the internet-explorer?

nonono.... :(

:roll:
If anyone may download and mirror it, I really would appreciate that. Time to go to bed now.

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#53 Post by Lobster »

http://puppylinux.org/wikka/VentSpleen
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#54 Post by MU »

*lol*
Well, I *must* go sleeping now, as my processor-fan stops working.
It is broken and stops turning after some minutes.

So I will have to buy a new one before 8.pm.

See you later, Mark
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#55 Post by JMD »

In the past I ran KDE on Suse, on Mandrake, on FreeBSD, and performance was NOT good on Dell Inspiron laptop with 128M RAM (it is now running great with Puppy 1.0.5).

Just wondering what kind of performance can we expect from KDE on Puppy?

Wouldn't Gnome be faster?
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#56 Post by Nathan F »

KDE sizzles on Puppy just like you'd expect. On my company laptop with 256 MB ram there's hardly any drop in speed over icewm. I don't have anything else to test it with right now but people are reporting good performance with 128 MB. What, Gnome now too? Mark I guess you didn't make usr_megabloat_moremoremore.sfs quite big enough after all?

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usr_devx.sfs for use with KDE

#57 Post by Nathan F »

As promised I made a usr_devx.sfs that should be safe to use with KDE. I didn't remove evrything relating to Qt but only what was duplicated, so it should still be possible to compile Qt applications. Get it at:
http://grafpup.com/puppy/
md5 checksum included
Let me know if there's any problems.

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removed qt from usr_devx.sfs - still crashes..?

#58 Post by PeterSieg »

Hi.

I removed qt from usr_devx.sfs - still crashes..?
Probably because of dublicates as Nathan says...
Will try Nathan's usr_devx.sfs next..
(In my productive environment.. so wish me luck)

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Have fun :)
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mirror for those IE challeged.

#59 Post by Ted Dog »

MU wrote:uuuuuhhhhhh....
it seems the download just works with the internet-explorer?

nonono.... :(

:roll:
If anyone may download and mirror it, I really would appreciate that. Time to go to bed now.

Mark
It is being uploaded to http://www.puptrix.org/mega/usr_more.sfs for those without IE. Give it an hour. I can't wait to try it myself :!: :!:
Sounds like Mark pulled an all-nighter, I estimate it was 9am his local time, way to go, Mark :P
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#60 Post by MU »

Thanks so much Ted :-)

I just woke up, it is 5 pm now :lol: Will take a shower, and then go buying a new fan. Afterwards I'll edit the postings with your new download-link :)

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