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Posted: Tue 05 Jan 2010, 18:53
by rokytnji
One way to make a bit easier the launch of the opera in the portable form is to symlink the folder e.x:/mnt/sda7/Opera-10.10-portable-customized/ to the desktop. That way you open the folder and by clicking at opera it launch. Not perfect solution but a 2 click solution.
LOL, you must be psychic. I have been launching it this way since last post.

Posted: Tue 05 Jan 2010, 21:07
by abushcrafter
Michalis wrote: @abushcrafter
I know it's about java but even with java installed and running I get those errors. So I don't search more, don't bother with them :lol:
Fool!

MENU>>Tools>Preferences>Advanced>Content>Java Options (BUTTON)

my path is" /usr/java/jre-1.6.0.17/lib/i386/"
to the file "libjavaplugin_oji.so"

Posted: Wed 06 Jan 2010, 03:22
by ttuuxxx
Michalis wrote: @ttuuxxx
Download and ready for inspection :lol:
I didn't understand what you changed in the layout but I'll find out.
The "feel" of the browsers Gui, I made it work more like Seamonkey/Firefox, the tabs are where they should be just above the page. and the regular nav buttons above the tabs, Opera/Chrome likes to turn these functions upside down.
below full screenshot Of Opera in FH-retro-lite
ttuuxxx

10.50 portable

Posted: Sat 09 Jan 2010, 12:03
by Michalis
Development version 10.50 added only in portable form. Be careful it is unstable and has many problems it isn't for everyday use as it also crashes many times. For the people that know what they are doing I call you to check it since this is going to be the future of the opera not qt libraries based but over it's own independent gui tool.


For the menu entry I haven't succeed to make work yet. I'll keep trying anyway.

rokytnji wrote:LOL, you must be psychic. I have been launching it this way since last post.
I knew it could work this way but I don't really like it as it seems kind of odd or half working. That's why I want to make it work through the menu. But at the end till now is the best way.

ttuuxxx wrote:The "feel" of the browsers Gui, I made it work more like Seamonkey/Firefox, the tabs are where they should be just above the page. and the regular nav buttons above the tabs, Opera/Chrome likes to turn these functions upside down.
Strange but I had never noticed that it was deferent. Fire Hydrant Retro Lite is also looking good and it is indeed lite. Only that unfortunately couldn't recognize my ethernet nor load the module r8169 even that all other puppies I've tried never had problem on that. Another problem was that I didn't find power management modules for my amd k10+ cpu.

Posted: Sat 09 Jan 2010, 13:36
by magerlab
i think new opera 10.5 without qt dependencies will be a good candidate for new puppy releases. I use a pre-alpha for a week and though it's only pre-alpha it works nice and cathces gtk theme to draw buttons and menus
let's see what they will do when stable release comes.....
now some features do not work( i can not type in russian in forum boxes or search panel, cannot remove or add buttons)

Posted: Sat 09 Jan 2010, 18:30
by technosaurus
I checked out 10.5 and it works nicely with one exception - Puppy does not support gstreamer and thus there will probably be no HTML5 video... this is the same with firefox, seamonkey, midori... pretty much all of the others. So perhaps the time has come to incorporate gstreamer (or perhaps gstreamer-ffmpeg) ughh if you know all of the dependencies and are familiar with the plethora of nuances you'll realize that is a LOT of work (and likely a lot of rework)

Posted: Sat 09 Jan 2010, 22:18
by magerlab
yes, i forgot to mention about gstreamer
i believe it's a must have for puppy now

Posted: Sun 10 Jan 2010, 03:01
by ttuuxxx
I've compiled Gstreamer a few times and don't remember much deps needed, but to compile it just for the use of a browser plus the,G,B,U plugins would seem like overkill.
ttuuxxx

Posted: Sun 10 Jan 2010, 16:11
by Michalis
For the moment (correct me if I'm wrong) I think HTML5 isn't being used so we can skip it. But sooner or later will have to go for Gstreamer. I don't believe it's bad to go for it cause maybe it will add size but from the other hand will give us the opportunity to use many other programs which use gstreamer.

Anyway opera 10.50 will take quite some time to to become stable enough for every day use.

A good thing to keep from the alpha release is that finally it doesn't depend to qt and due to it has smaller size. Actually according to the developers it integrates better with gtk.

@magerlab
Also I can't use greek, I synced my bookmarks and all greek letters where vanished big problems with the latest flash and many more. Ok it's alpha release will wait for the next ones.

Posted: Sun 10 Jan 2010, 16:21
by technosaurus
Gstreamer does have vala bindings so there IS the possibility of a Puppy Media Player. Barry has started using mozplugger so it would be able to replace the browser plugin. Any takers?

Posted: Sun 10 Jan 2010, 18:16
by abushcrafter
Michalis wrote:For the moment (correct me if I'm wrong) I think HTML5 isn't being used so we can skip it. But sooner or later will have to go for Gstreamer. I don't believe it's bad to go for it cause maybe it will add size but from the other hand will give us the opportunity to use many other programs which use gstreamer.
Oh no you can't! I plan to use it.

Posted: Thu 14 Jan 2010, 15:47
by aarf
have crashed my opera10.10 customised portable in quirky3 so that it now starts and continues to consume 30-36% of cpu even through restartx but the browser window will NOT open. a reboot will stop it running in task manager.
will save my bookmarks.adr and speeddial.ini file and simply unpack a new opera. have kept a copy of the failed opera for any queries

Posted: Fri 15 Jan 2010, 02:38
by rokytnji
Just for info. I admin at http://myubuntu.ning.com/

I try and wish anybody there a Happy Birthday when it is their birthday.
I noticed in my 10.10 install in Puppy 4.31 that when I click on a members picture or name to go to their profile, (I only tested on this site and only in the birthday section in left panel of page lower section).

Any hows. It wouldn't take me to their profile page when I tried to link. Had to use my other Opera 10 install. I know Ning uses a lot of flash. But my older Opera deals with it just fine as well as stock SeaMonkey 1.1.8 in Puppy 4.31. Just thought I'd post the info.
It aint a deal breaker yet though. :) Happy Trails, Rok

Edit: right clicking and selecting open in new tab worked though. :oops:

Not sure. But I think maybe flash blocker might be the culprit for this symptom. Right click options all work OK. Changing tabbed prefernces didn't help. No big deal though.

Posted: Sat 16 Jan 2010, 05:49
by aarf
aarf wrote:have crashed my opera10.10 customised portable in quirky3 so that it now starts and continues to consume 30-36% of cpu even through restartx but the browser window will NOT open. a reboot will stop it running in task manager.
will save my bookmarks.adr and speeddial.ini file and simply unpack a new opera. have kept a copy of the failed opera for any queries
have fixed the crashed opera by deleting the /profile/bookmarks.adr file. it may have become corrupted by my copying in a bookmarks.adr file from elsewhere thus overwriting the original. to be sure, when importing bookmarks use the import in "file" menu in the bookmarks manager and DO NOT JUST MANUALLY REPLACE THE BOOKMARKS FILE. had very great difficulty when trying to delete the corrupted bookmarks file. if you have this problem, just delete the file and opera will create a new one on opening a new browser window.

Posted: Sat 23 Jan 2010, 03:27
by aarf
found this at the opera forums. click this link [url]opera:/button/Reload%20all%20pages,1,,418061858,%22Reload%22[/url]
drag the button to a tool bar and you have all tab refresh button. especially useful on fragile wifi connections.
edit:: the forum script doesnt recognise it as a link so copy and paste it into your opera browser then you will get
Invalid address

You tried to access the address opera:/button/Reload%20all%20pages,1,,418061858,%22Reload%22, which is currently unavailable. Please make sure that the Web address (URL) is correctly spelt and punctuated, then try reloading the page
then click the link in that error message to proceed. be sure to save the new button before closing the popup.

Posted: Sat 23 Jan 2010, 23:56
by technosaurus
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Posted: Sun 24 Jan 2010, 17:58
by Michalis
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The new opera

Posted: Thu 28 Jan 2010, 15:53
by potchan
Hi Michalis and Team,

Shapo ! just installed it (Potchan devel's priorities, sorry). I can see the matureness and drinkability during use, via my mobile SD which is a relatively slowish media (where Seamonkey opens by 15 long sec's, Opera opens in 5 and consumes less resources). Keep going :lol: and after deeper use maybe I'll share more with U.

Opera 10.10 static via menu

Posted: Tue 02 Feb 2010, 22:06
by sheldonisaac
I found that this works.

Make an execuatble script in /usr/local/bin, as follows:

#!/bin/sh
cd /usr/local/apps/Opera-10.10-portable-customized
./opera

I named this little file opera

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Then edit ~.jwmrc, to add this line:

<Program label="Opera web browser" icon="PuppyBrowser.png">opera</Program>

Where can I get a different icon for this, other than "PuppyBrowser.png" ?

Thanks,
Sheldon

Re: Opera 10.10 static via menu

Posted: Wed 03 Feb 2010, 03:30
by aarf
sheldonisaac wrote:I found that this works.

Make an execuatble script in /usr/local/bin, as follows:

#!/bin/sh
cd /usr/local/apps/Opera-10.10-portable-customized
./opera

I named this little file opera

------------------------

Then edit ~.jwmrc, to add this line:

<Program label="Opera web browser" icon="PuppyBrowser.png">opera</Program>

Where can I get a different icon for this, other than "PuppyBrowser.png" ?

Thanks,
Sheldon
ok will give it a shot. thanks. icons are in the opera folders.