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Posted: Sat 24 Jan 2015, 10:51
by mikeb
(I wonder would a 55 year old Windows user be able to use it - the PC equivalent of the man on the Clapham Omnibus)
just as easily as you have used syslinux.

By the way the puppy win32 installer built with the Nsis installer uses grub4dos...a nice forum project thats been running for some years and made many installs. You could probably make a bat file to do a simple version using these tools.....grub4dos plus 7zip for example.

mike

Posted: Sat 24 Jan 2015, 12:05
by Burn_IT
I wonder would a 55 year old Windows user be able to use it - the PC equivalent of the man on the Clapham Omnibus)
Yes he probably either wrote it or taught the person who did.
He is almost certainly more polite.

Posted: Sat 24 Jan 2015, 12:09
by mikeb
And probably did several installs of windows 98 unassisted......

mike

Posted: Sat 24 Jan 2015, 14:03
by Burn_IT
Windows 3.0 more like........

In fact even I was computing 17 years before Windows came out.

Posted: Sat 24 Jan 2015, 14:15
by mikeb
Got me there... computers were under the heading of 'of no interest ' until about 2001.........

Did have a bit of interest/play with the early home computers but IBM pc stuff took over and it was dull dull dull so left it at that.

Something throbbing between my legs was more fun....I mean bikes of course :D

mike

Posted: Sat 24 Jan 2015, 14:33
by Burn_IT
I had to do a holiday job to help pay my way to college.

It stood me in good stead as their biggest client gave me a permanent job when I finished my course.

College life puts the iron in your ... character.

Posted: Sat 24 Jan 2015, 15:09
by Les Kerf
I am a 57 year old geezer-in-training who only started using computers regularly ~ five years ago. My earlier attempts with Windows were so unpleasant that I simply avoided all things computer.

I went back to college in 2010; I was then pretty much forced into the computer world, kicking and screaming all the way.

A professor and also a fellow student were Linux nuts; they got me started with Linux Mint. I later found Puppy Linux and have never looked back.

Grub4Dos is so very easy to use, even a simpleton such as I can use it with confidence.

Posted: Sat 24 Jan 2015, 15:16
by Robin2
Les Kerf wrote:Grub4Dos is so very easy to use, even a simpleton such as I can use it with confidence.
I must meet a better class of simpleton :)

I have just had a look at this Grub4Dos tutorial

It seems a little more complex than syslinux.exe -a -m F:

...R

Posted: Sat 24 Jan 2015, 15:53
by mikeb
remember the command earlier well...

bootlace.com 0x80

add yer grldr file and a menu...done. Thats the syntax from windows/DOS 0x81 would be a second drive...probably would be the one for a usb stick.

Sorry but this simpleton who was a nooobie first class managed it years ago after getting a bit weary of booting with a CD...you also have the boot using windows bootloader options too but thats aimed at existing hard drives.

Thing is the tutorials for grub4dos are often far more complicated than the process really is...even their own README file is heavy going in translated english.

There was a great wiki which summed it up nicely but its lost it seems...these are not to bad though..
http://diddy.boot-land.net/grub4dos/fil ... ll_dos.htm
http://staraphd.blogspot.co.uk/2008/06/ ... ithin.html

Mike

Posted: Sat 24 Jan 2015, 15:56
by Burn_IT
It seems a little more complex than syslinux.exe -a -m F:
It is. That is because it can do a lot more.
That doesn't mean the command line HAS to be any more complex.