Fatdog64-630 & 631 Final (May 12 2014)

[gcmartin]

Hello @Neerajkolte

Is there any chance you can present your Bleachbit-v1.0 as a PET for the FATDOG REPO?

Thanks if you can.

[Pavan]

Anyone tried BleachBit with FatDog64?

I installed Bleachbit from source as per instructions on it's site. Had to install pytgtk (not sure about the name, it's a gtk frontend for python, I am at work now).
It ran ok cleaned many files. Gave message of 24Mb space saved (my save file is quite newer).
Fatdog was running ok with no apparent damage.
Will investigate further.

Thanks

- Neeraj.

Thanks for the feedback

Do you know if the install took a lot of space?

[grump]

This got a thread of it's own but I thought I was putting it in the PhatDag thread, so I'm reposting.

I've installed Google Chrome from the PhatdogPM and it works nicely thank you. I dragged and dropped it's icon from the menu to the desktop, but when I clicked the icon to start Chrome it told me this:

"Please start Google Chrome as a normal user. To
run as root, you must specify an alternative -user-
data-dir for storage of profile information."

What do I need to do to get Chrome to run from the desktop and save myself two clicks?

[Yoni]

Just noticed that i have the exact same problem as pavan.

When i slide the side scroll bar up and down in firefox i also get bands of horizontal distorted ripples.

I disabled smooth scolling and hardware acceleration but it made absolutely no difference.

It seems to be the actual desktop itself rather than a firefox issue as i also get the same problems with VLC as pavan is having , yet the same 1080p file plays smoothly in windows with no horizontal bands of distortion or tearing.

Isn't there any V-sync , H-sync settings to force desktop sync?

[neerajkolte]

Hello @Neerajkolte
Is there any chance you can present your Bleachbit-v1.0 as a PET for the FATDOG REPO?
Thanks if you can.

All I did to run Bleachbit was,
downloaded the tarball and simply ran these commands:

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tar xvjf bleachbit-1.0.tar.bz2
cd bleachbit-1.0
make -C po local
python bleachbit.py

I haven't yet got around to learn how to make pets I keep on planning to learn though.
Actually I have read and know the steps but I don't know what exactly "configure", "make" do exactly so I thought I should learn that first.

Anyway I did this after "make -C po local"

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new2dir make install
cd ..
dir2pet bleachbit-1.0-x86_64

And I am uploading the pet that it created. (I dont know what to trim from it so it may be fat. It's my first attempt to make pet. Also I was confused when dir2pet asked about dependancies as I know it required pygtk but I suppose it might also need python as I had dev sfs loaded, it didn't ask for it while running. So I kept dependencies blank)

Do you know if the install took a lot of space?

the un-tarred folder weights 4425K, The pet I created says it will acquire 1736K space.
I don't know how much space in savefile it acquires (can't check now as I have deleted save file, yes I do that sometimes on whim). I also had to install pygtk.



Edit: Sorry friends don't download the pet yet. The menu entry it creates in system section dosen't run it. And If I type bleachbit in terminal it gives

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# bleachbit 

** (process:21709): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GMountMountFlags' as enum when in fact it is of type 'GFlags'

** (process:21709): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GDriveStartFlags' as enum when in fact it is of type 'GFlags'

** (process:21709): WARNING **: Trying to register gtype 'GSocketMsgFlags' as enum when in fact it is of type 'GFlags'
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/bin/bleachbit", line 47, in <module>
    import bleachbit.GUI
ImportError: No module named bleachbit.GUI

I don't know what I should do. (This is why I should have learned basics first)

[jamesbond]

This got a thread of it's own but I thought I was putting it in the PhatDag thread, so I'm reposting.

I've installed Google Chrome from the PhatdogPM and it works nicely thank you. I dragged and dropped it's icon from the menu to the desktop, but when I clicked the icon to start Chrome it told me this:

"Please start Google Chrome as a normal user. To
run as root, you must specify an alternative -user-
data-dir for storage of profile information."

What do I need to do to get Chrome to run from the desktop and save myself two clicks?

Edit the /usr/share/applications/google-chrome.desktop, change the "Exec" line from "/opt/google/chrome/google-chrome" to "/usr/bin/google-chrome".

EDIT: Fixed and re-uploaded this in the SFS and re-upload. The fix runs chrome as "root" by default. If you want to run as "spot", use /usr/bin/google-chrome-spot instead.

For Pavan and Yoni, I'm sorry I can't help you much, I only have old Nvidia card that can only run with nvidia-legacy drivers (and it works well with the open source drivers too). I may be able to package the newer drivers but that's as much as I can do as I don't have the hardware to test newer drivers. I hope that other Fatdog users can help you with this.

[JustGreg]

I use an Ethernet connection for networking and not a wireless one. I disabled the wpa-gui and used the network wizard in control panel. I noticed it is not original network wizard (/usr/sbin/net-wizard.sh) of Puppy. I got DHCP to work. At next boot, DHCPD was not running. I checked the FAQ for the network and followed the instructions. The same results.

It is not clear how to set up an Ethernet connection with auto DHCP assignment of an IP address.

At this time, I am using the following code in a file (ip-get) located in the startup folder:

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#!/bin/sh
## modify this script to include your interface name
## Setups DHCP on Fatdog 64
## 3 June 2014 JustGreg
# echo "Running dhcpcd address service"
 if [ -e /var/run/dhcpc/*.pid ]; then rm /var/run/dhcpc/dhcpcd-*.pid; fi
 rm /etc/dhcpc/dhcpcd-*.*
 dhcpcd -t 30 -d -h fatdog64  eth0

This is not a real problem for me, but. I thought I would post it. As always, thank you for your efforts on FATDOG64. For me, it is still the best 64 bit version of Puppy.

[jamesbond]

JustGreg, thank you for your kind words. Yes, the "network-wizard" is new, replaced with a console-based version to ensure that it can be setup and run even when GUI is not running. Anyway, to create auto-dhcp connection for eth0 - just launch network-setup.sh, choose "configure ip address", then "eth0", then "autoconfigure". If this doesn't work for you, you have hit a bug - and I will need to look at it.

cheers!

[Ted Dog]

Just noticed that i have the exact same problem as pavan.

When i slide the side scroll bar up and down in firefox i also get bands of horizontal distorted ripples.

I disabled smooth scolling and hardware acceleration but it made absolutely no difference.

It seems to be the actual desktop itself rather than a firefox issue as i also get the same problems with VLC as pavan is having , yet the same 1080p file plays smoothly in windows with no horizontal bands of distortion or tearing.

Isn't there any V-sync , H-sync settings to force desktop sync?

Oh that issue with firefox. happens on textbox and white backgrounds has nothing to due with video drivers besure the spell checking dictionary matchs your country code and try a standard build. Increase default cashe size. I have battled that issue for a while it acted fixed but do not now. Seems to happen witb me if I have auto corrected on and make lots of mistakes..
I think fatdog is still setup as Great Britain English.

opps I hate when it does that my reply is last paragraph

[gcmartin]

Can anyone contribute any insights to the problem that @Neerajkolte is having?

[grump]

This got a thread of it's own but I thought I was putting it in the PhatDag thread, so I'm reposting.

I've installed Google Chrome from the PhatdogPM and it works nicely thank you. I dragged and dropped it's icon from the menu to the desktop, but when I clicked the icon to start Chrome it told me this:

"Please start Google Chrome as a normal user. To
run as root, you must specify an alternative -user-
data-dir for storage of profile information."

What do I need to do to get Chrome to run from the desktop and save myself two clicks?

Edit the /usr/share/applications/google-chrome.desktop, change the "Exec" line from "/opt/google/chrome/google-chrome" to "/usr/bin/google-chrome".

EDIT: Fixed and re-uploaded this in the SFS and re-upload. The fix runs chrome as "root" by default. If you want to run as "spot", use /usr/bin/google-chrome-spot instead.....

Uninstalled Google Chrome, then loaded the new sfs. Worked nicely, thank you jamesbond.

[Yoni]

Oh that issue with firefox. happens on textbox and white backgrounds has nothing to due with video drivers besure the spell checking dictionary matchs your country code and try a standard build. Increase default cashe size. I have battled that issue for a while it acted fixed but do not now. Seems to happen witb me if I have auto corrected on and make lots of mistakes..
I think fatdog is still setup as Great Britain English.

Not just Firefox , It's up down scrolling on anything including movies.

For Pavan and Yoni, I'm sorry I can't help you much, I only have old Nvidia card that can only run with nvidia-legacy drivers (and it works well with the open source drivers too). I may be able to package the newer drivers but that's as much as I can do as I don't have the hardware to test newer drivers. I hope that other Fatdog users can help you with this.

Thanks JamesBond

Does Fatdog use KDE as i see that the latest Nvidia drives have bug fixes for KDE desktop?

Can i install the latest Nvidia drivers manually or do i need a PET?

Thanks

[Ted Dog]

oh movies too, that is not good. what hardware do you have?

[Wilbert]

Add me to the list of people getting intermittent horizontal distortion stripes on vertical panning.

It seems to be something to do with the way the desktop is being re-drawn , painted.

I tried changing around all the nvidia settings on both my old 9800gt and my 660 ti and it made no difference and it was also the same just running the nouveau drivers.

What country are the developers in as maybe one of us could donate a Nvidia card ?

Fatdog is a beautiful OS so it needs fixing.

[Ted Dog]

sounds like a windows manager bug..

[Wilbert]

Should the remaster option on a ivybridge 3470 be stuck at 99% load and take a long time ?

After about 16 mins i gave up and stopped it.

Maybe i should have left it but it seemed such a long time at full load.

[fatdog]

Should the remaster option on a ivybridge 3470 be stuck at 99% load and take a long time ?

How big is your remaster? How big your RAM? You can also attempt to run the remaster from terminal (fatdog-remaster.sh) and see if you see any error messages ...

After about 16 mins i gave up and stopped it.

16 minutes is a long time but it really depends on what else you have added. Adding large packages like libreoffice can add considerable time to the remaster process (which can't be avoided, simply running mksquashfs takes a lot of time). Run "htop" from terminal (or run "task manager" from control panel), and see which process is eating your CPU time. If it is mksquashfs, your remaster is still on-going. If it is something else, then perhaps not.

Maybe i should have left it but it seemed such a long time at full load.

It does take some time.

What country are the developers in as maybe one of us could donate a Nvidia card ?

Thank you for your generous offer. At the time being James doesn't have any space to plug the offered nvidia card (his desktop power supply is only 135Watt, of which 65Watt is taken for the Athlon, so considering harddisks etc, not enough power to run a decent nvidia card at the moment). I will let Kirk speak for himself

Does Fatdog use KDE as i see that the latest Nvidia drives have bug fixes for KDE desktop?

No, Fatdog doesn't use KDE. It uses a partial LXDE - but only partial (only the openbox window manager, actually; we used to use the panel as well (lxpanel) but in 630 we have switched to razor-panel).

Can i install the latest Nvidia drivers manually or do i need a PET?

You can. Make sure you start with a blank savefile, have it at least 512MB large (bigger is better). Have devx loaded at boot. Download nvidia driver. Make sure it is stored somewhere you can access through terminal, because you need to do this while the graphical desktop *is* not running. If you're using graphical login, disable it.

When you're ready, boot with "pfix=nox blacklist=nouveau". Then when you reach the command line, install your NVIDIA driver like this: "sh /path/to/your/downloaded/nvidia.driver". Follow the prompt. Warning: sometimes the prompt is corrupted, but most of the time you should be able to follow what it is doing. If you botch the installation, delete the savefile and start over.

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Please note the announcement on the first post of this thread. Fatdog64 700 is on the way, but currently there is no timeline attached to it.

[Sage]

What country are the developers in...

No harm in showing your real nation state? I can frequently help with older HW. Very small items can be sent to Oz and US for example and bigger/heavy items within UK, or, esp. for collection. In the US, ~twice a year, bigger items can be sent for collection (or your postal cost from) in Maine.

[Wilbert]

Thanks FatDog for taking the time to reply and explain things as i'm sure you guys are busy.

As for the Remaster i have 4gb ram and it was just a standard live disk boot to test the function as i have never used it before.

I did look at task manager at the time and the only thing stuck at 99% was the mksquashfs but i'll try (fatdog-remaster.sh) to see if there are any errors.

[JustGreg]

I tested the new wizard (/usr/sbin/net-setup.sh). I found it created the proper file needed (/etc/network-setpu/ip/eth0). I look at the contents of eth0 and it had the needed information. It appears the file is not used as part of start up.

I tried net-setup.sh a second time, while watching the directory for eth0. I selected the interface and use the autoconfigure button. A new file for eth0 was generated. I even tried Activate Settings button in case it was needed to start the process. However, it failed on eth0. It was clearly looking for a WPA configuration (profile) file. The WPA GUI was disabled. It is not surprising that it failed.

MY ethernet adapter is a Realtek RTL8101E PCI type. I know it is working properly, since I can use a small command line file to get the needed DHCP lease and IP address.

I also checked the initialization messages. Ethernet interface, eth0, is found and started, The DHCPCD client is not started. So maybe the issue is in the start up process.

If there is anything that you want to try and report on, please tell me and I will try it,

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