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Ted Dog · #481 Post by **Ted Dog** » Sun 19 Apr 2015, 16:38

same issue as Flash. My RW discs are DVD+RW so wonder if its a dvd+ verses a dvd- issue. Even tried a full erase and no luck.

scsijon · #482 Post by **scsijon** » Mon 20 Apr 2015, 02:38

Ted Dog wrote:same issue as Flash. My RW discs are DVD+RW so wonder if its a dvd+ verses a dvd- issue. Even tried a full erase and no luck.

Three things to check.

What driver are you using, is it a DVD driver and if so does it allow for RW discs, the linux cdrom driver will burn normal dvd's;

Is your drive DVD RW compatable, a lot aren't, even now they are DVD+-R;

Are you burning at the correct speed for the RW disc, most RW only over-burn at a slloooowwww rate like 4.

BarryK · #483 Post by **BarryK** » Mon 20 Apr 2015, 03:17

Ted Dog wrote:same issue as Flash. My RW discs are DVD+RW so wonder if its a dvd+ verses a dvd- issue. Even tried a full erase and no luck.

You might have to take a look at the script, /usr/sbin/savesession.

I don't recall whether I used dvd-r or dvd+r, away from home right now.

I haven't tested a rw dvd.

BarryK · #484 Post by **BarryK** » Mon 20 Apr 2015, 03:21

Flash wrote:I tried to make a multisession DVD of both 7.0.2 and 7.0.3, with no luck. The Save icon worked, and the program seemed to go through its paces, but in the end nothing was burned onto the DVD. I tried it with a blank DVD too, but nothing was burned to it either.

Yes, as James C responded, there is no multisession support. The save is a remaster.

#485 Post by **Flash** » Mon 20 Apr 2015, 03:25

Burniso2dvd will simply overwrite whatever is on a DVD-RW without blanking it first, or at least it used to. Perhaps the scrip April is using could do whatever Burniso2dvd does.

I'd still like to know where the remastered iso winds up. It's got to be somewhere.

James C · #486 Post by **James C** » Mon 20 Apr 2015, 03:34

Flash wrote: I'd still like to know where the remastered iso winds up. It's got to be somewhere.

I seem to remember that it was saved in /tmp until it was burned to disc.

James C · #487 Post by **James C** » Mon 20 Apr 2015, 03:37

Flash wrote: How did you install Flash, from a repository?

Menu/Internet/GetFlash.

James C · #488 Post by **James C** » Mon 20 Apr 2015, 03:39

BarryK wrote:
Ted Dog wrote:same issue as Flash. My RW discs are DVD+RW so wonder if its a dvd+ verses a dvd- issue. Even tried a full erase and no luck.
You might have to take a look at the script, /usr/sbin/savesession.

I don't recall whether I used dvd-r or dvd+r, away from home right now.

I haven't tested a rw dvd.

For what it's worth, I used a blank cd-r.

L18L · #489 Post by **L18L** » Mon 20 Apr 2015, 15:45

BarryK wrote:There is no longer /usr/sbin/installquirky, it is moved to /usr/local/install_quirky/

That folder now has everything needed to build the 'installquirky.amd64' and 'installquirky.x86' executables that I uploaded.

This will of course be in the next release, 7.0.4.

Note, if you want to see what is inside it right now, when you run the executable, it expands in a folder in /tmp/
(which gets deleted when the Installer terminates).

I have been playing with the create-quirky-installer script for a while now and here is what I could get done.

Let user choose from existing translations.
(German translation see http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... &start=452)
Just for demo added some dummy links ( el pl ru ar id sr ).

Insert just the following code block into create-quirky-installer
and it will have some translations inside the self-extracting archive (not in /usr/share/locale):

Code: Select all

#i18n # required: launch_app_in_another_LANGUAGE from     http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=97699&start=104
die () { echo "$1"; exit 1;}
# use TEXTDOMAINDIR instead of default /usr/share/locale
CHOOSE=launch_app_in_another_LANGUAGE
[ "`which $CHOOSE`" ] || die "missing script: $CHOOSE"
sed -e 's#/usr/share/locale#$TEXTDOMAINDIR#' `which $CHOOSE` > /tmp/install-quirky-dir/$CHOOSE
chmod +x /tmp/install-quirky-dir/$CHOOSE

# create script start.sh
echo "#!/bin/sh
TEXTDOMAINDIR=/tmp/install-quirky-dir/locale
export TEXTDOMAINDIR
./$CHOOSE installquirky
" > /tmp/install-quirky-dir/start.sh
chmod +x /tmp/install-quirky-dir/start.sh

# we use names of languages individually in language of language
cp -a /usr/share/i18n/lang_names /tmp/install-quirky-dir/ || die "missing file: lang_names"

# copy some translations of installquirky
cd /tmp/install-quirky-dir/
mkdir locale
for aDIR in `find /usr/share/locale/*/LC_MESSAGES/installquirky.mo | cut -d'/' -f5 || die "no translations found"`; do
 mkdir -p locale/${aDIR}/LC_MESSAGES
 cp /usr/share/locale/${aDIR}/LC_MESSAGES/installquirky.mo locale/${aDIR}/LC_MESSAGES/
done
# add some dummy translations (links to 'de') just for demo
for aDIR in el pl ru ar id sr ; do
 mkdir -p locale/${aDIR}/LC_MESSAGES
 ln -s ../../de/LC_MESSAGES/installquirky.mo locale/${aDIR}/LC_MESSAGES/installquirky.mo 
done
cd -

./makeself.sh --gzip --nox11 --nowait /tmp/install-quirky-dir installquirky.${DISTRO_TARGETARCH} start.sh ./start.sh
#/i18n

#generate self-extracting archive:
#./makeself.sh --gzip --nox11 --nowait /tmp/install-quirky-dir installquirky.${DISTRO_TARGETARCH} installquirky  ./installquirky

(and install pet from http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=104 )

don570 · #490 Post by **don570** » Mon 20 Apr 2015, 19:58

I made python 2.7.8 packages for april and april64. I needed them to compile
mypaint and gimp graphic packages.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=97945

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Bindee · #491 Post by **Bindee** » Mon 20 Apr 2015, 22:48

Barry

Out of interest why T2 and not Linux from scratch like Fatdoggy?

Just asking , not a criticising.

don570 · #492 Post by **don570** » Tue 21 Apr 2015, 00:07

Various versions of mypaint 1.1.0 for many puppies available

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=98188
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don570 · #493 Post by **don570** » Tue 21 Apr 2015, 00:24

Posted various versions of gimp 2.8.14 that can use the gmic plugin

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=97994

01micko · #494 Post by **01micko** » Tue 21 Apr 2015, 01:15

BarryK wrote:
Bindee wrote:
takes about 12 hours to compile.

What are you using , An atom based notebook.?

I have an Intel i3-370M CPU, with effectively 4 cores, however I compiled Libreoffice on 1 core only, which made it extra slow.

I have a problem with big compiles if use all cores, it seems my CPU overheats and the laptop abruptly turns itself off.

I get this compiling gcc in T2, and Seamonkey inside or outside T2. For T2, the default was one-less than the max cores, so it was using 3. No good, still crashed the laptop.

maybe 2 cores would work, but I have got T2 set to one core, very painfully slow. Besides, we have discovered some apps fail to compile in T2 if use more than one core.
Though, T2 can be setup to use one core on a per-app basis.

When I had that issue I scaled back my CPU, still managed to compile with make -j4 for large sources. It is the reason I built tempicon which has now morphed into pmcputemp, status icon using cairo to build the png image.

It won't solve your problem but with careful monitoring (returns real time CPU frequenc(y)(ies) in the tooltip) it may give you some insight. From feedback, it is tested working with up to 4 CPUs. It's built to handle up to 32.

scsijon · #495 Post by **scsijon** » Tue 21 Apr 2015, 05:10

Bindee wrote:Barry

Out of interest why T2 and not Linux from scratch like Fatdoggy?

Just asking , not a criticising.

Bindee,

Consider lfs primary school level and T2 secondary school level. Besides that, T2 has such a vigorous test routine for building what is in the packages/group/$application has all the fixes there across many platforms so you don't usually have to work them out on the way. I wonder somedays what else Rene' (it's manager) has time to do with the number of updates he has to deal with as he does have a business to run.

That's not 100% true but I think it's a good 'rough statement'.

linuxcbon · #496 Post by **linuxcbon** » Tue 21 Apr 2015, 06:26

April64 7.0.3
- you can get rid of mingetty, by using getty and a one line bash script /sbin/autologin (to auto login as root) and ::respawn:/sbin/getty -n -l autologin 38400 tty1

BarryK · #497 Post by **BarryK** » Tue 21 Apr 2015, 10:51

don570 wrote:I made python 2.7.8 packages for april and april64. I needed them to compile
mypaint and gimp graphic packages.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=97945

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Note that gimp is available via the Package Manager, in the "t2-april" repo, 'Graphic' category.

don570 · #498 Post by **don570** » Tue 21 Apr 2015, 19:08

The latest version of JWM (snapshot 1082) changes the color of the window
frame to show that the forward window is active.

Puppus Dogfellow · #499 Post by **Puppus Dogfellow** » Tue 21 Apr 2015, 21:57

very fast saves, which replaced the iso in the file designated by the installation gui. it seems to be the fastest OS i've used, but it told me i had no space left in my save partition and refused to install libreoffice, so i didn't really play around with it that much, though i'm looking forward to trying out both frugal and sd installations on a machine with six gig. of ram. the machine that is unaware it's not running off a partition has suffered some weird space aphasia in the past, so i'm not sure if it's a bug or not. as it was setting up it told me it was creating (iirc) a 1.4 gigabyte zram or zdrive, and it was using about 650 meg to run. is "partition" just what it called the ram it was operating in? seems like it would be able to run it if the suite were preburned at least.

anyway, seems to be a blazingly fast offering, at least in frugal mode. saves appear orders faster than anything that's come before, but i haven't tried a save after many significant/space hungry changes. can the iso be opened and manually edited like the puppy isos can? would the existing puppy tools (like the built in remaster tool and woofy) work on the iso version of quirky?

Bindee · #500 Post by **Bindee** » Tue 21 Apr 2015, 22:43

scsijon wrote:
Bindee wrote:Barry

Out of interest why T2 and not Linux from scratch like Fatdoggy?

Just asking , not a criticising.
Bindee,

Consider lfs primary school level and T2 secondary school level. Besides that, T2 has such a vigorous test routine for building what is in the packages/group/$application has all the fixes there across many platforms so you don't usually have to work them out on the way. I wonder somedays what else Rene' (it's manager) has time to do with the number of updates he has to deal with as he does have a business to run.

That's not 100% true but I think it's a good 'rough statement'.

Thanks for explaining sexy jonny.

Someone did say in another thread that fattydogs decision to dump T2 for LFS is like trying to reinvent the wheel.

Didn't know about Barry and Rene working together , sounds awesome......

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