Classic Pup 2.14X -- Updated 2 series
Mine's not a P3
Dell Latitude CPi D300XT
Pentium II 300MHz CPU
Intel 440BX chipset
NeoMagic 2160B graphics with integrated VRAM
128mb RAM
20gb HDD (IIRC)
Crystal 4237B audio solution
A few notes.
(1) NeoMagic is independent of ATi/nVIDIA -- back in 1999 when this laptop was produced, there were several other options available and this was one of them.
(2) The RAM is 144 pin EDO, two slots. It's basically EDO PC133... nasty stuff, especially given how expensive it is now. It didn't last very long and nobody really makes it any more. Ugh. (Dell, did you really have to...?) Anyhow, maximum RAM in this heap is 256mb... expect to pay a minimum of us$50 for that in today's money, today. Yep, it's *that* bad!
(3) The original hard drive was a 6.5gb IBM TravelStar. My laptop was received in such condition that the hard drive needed to be removed with pliers -- and when I put power to it, it didn't click, it CLUNKED. Oh god.
(4) The audio on this thing is the worst part of the laptop by far -- not in terms of fidelity but in terms of driver compatibility. It piggybacks on a different driver (Crystal 4238 IIRC) and that driver's support for the 4237B is broken between the middle of the Puppy 4.x.x series (it's either 412 or 420 where it breaks, can't remember) straight up to 571 Retro, which is the first post-4.x.x Pup where it actually works AFAIK. Oh, yeah -- and that chip uses ISA rather than PCI. Ugh.
Dell Latitude CPi D300XT
Pentium II 300MHz CPU
Intel 440BX chipset
NeoMagic 2160B graphics with integrated VRAM
128mb RAM
20gb HDD (IIRC)
Crystal 4237B audio solution
A few notes.
(1) NeoMagic is independent of ATi/nVIDIA -- back in 1999 when this laptop was produced, there were several other options available and this was one of them.
(2) The RAM is 144 pin EDO, two slots. It's basically EDO PC133... nasty stuff, especially given how expensive it is now. It didn't last very long and nobody really makes it any more. Ugh. (Dell, did you really have to...?) Anyhow, maximum RAM in this heap is 256mb... expect to pay a minimum of us$50 for that in today's money, today. Yep, it's *that* bad!
(3) The original hard drive was a 6.5gb IBM TravelStar. My laptop was received in such condition that the hard drive needed to be removed with pliers -- and when I put power to it, it didn't click, it CLUNKED. Oh god.
(4) The audio on this thing is the worst part of the laptop by far -- not in terms of fidelity but in terms of driver compatibility. It piggybacks on a different driver (Crystal 4238 IIRC) and that driver's support for the 4237B is broken between the middle of the Puppy 4.x.x series (it's either 412 or 420 where it breaks, can't remember) straight up to 571 Retro, which is the first post-4.x.x Pup where it actually works AFAIK. Oh, yeah -- and that chip uses ISA rather than PCI. Ugh.
I know there is only one usb port available but I wonder if one of those usb miniature sound interfaces might be useable on the Dell?starhawk wrote:(4) The audio on this thing is the worst part of the laptop by far -- not in terms of fidelity but in terms of driver compatibility. It piggybacks on a different driver (Crystal 4238 IIRC) and that driver's support for the 4237B is broken between the middle of the Puppy 4.x.x series (it's either 412 or 420 where it breaks, can't remember) straight up to 571 Retro, which is the first post-4.x.x Pup where it actually works AFAIK. Oh, yeah -- and that chip uses ISA rather than PCI. Ugh.
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I had a PII 233 Mhz in 1998. Although I use rather old computers in general, I got rid of that one maybe 5 years ago, though it still worked.starhawk wrote:Mine's not a P3
Dell Latitude CPi D300XT
Pentium II 300MHz CPU
That kind of PC could even be too slow for a USB-soundcard, I think.
About a year ago, I bought a working notebook on ebay with a 2 Ghz-processor for just 50 bucks (EUR in fact, I'm in Europe). So it's really not worth it to bother with these kind of extremely old PCs, I think.
Oldest ones I'd go for would be built in about 2003 maybe, with about 1.8 Ghz-CPU. Puppy 2.14x and USB-soundcards run fine on such a machine.
It's a project system -- I call it the Prove It Box.
"Yeah, you can make a 1999 piece of [beep] laptop useful today... sure, PROVE IT YA [BEEP]."
You get the point now of the project and the name, I think
...thing is it needs two of these before it's got a chance in you-know-where... while prices have come down rather nicely there (a year ago it was $50 a pop from Hong Kong!! Not kidding, sadly...) it's still above what I can reasonably justify for the system that it is...
"Yeah, you can make a 1999 piece of [beep] laptop useful today... sure, PROVE IT YA [BEEP]."
You get the point now of the project and the name, I think
...thing is it needs two of these before it's got a chance in you-know-where... while prices have come down rather nicely there (a year ago it was $50 a pop from Hong Kong!! Not kidding, sadly...) it's still above what I can reasonably justify for the system that it is...
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Hey guys,
I'm just wondering what would be a good mail server for puppy 214x. Background:
PupClassic here has been on my mind for a long time, and I really think it has amazing potential as a personal mail and website server. I've wanted to host my own for a long time, and I'm finally getting to the place where I feel comfortable doing something like that.
I want to get a simple mail server working on 214x. Partly for educational reasons so I can learn some stuff about servers and doing my own hosting.
I'm aware of xmail and a couple others. Looking for simple, stable, and compatible with 214x.
Thanks in advance.
I'm just wondering what would be a good mail server for puppy 214x. Background:
PupClassic here has been on my mind for a long time, and I really think it has amazing potential as a personal mail and website server. I've wanted to host my own for a long time, and I'm finally getting to the place where I feel comfortable doing something like that.
I want to get a simple mail server working on 214x. Partly for educational reasons so I can learn some stuff about servers and doing my own hosting.
I'm aware of xmail and a couple others. Looking for simple, stable, and compatible with 214x.
Thanks in advance.
PC-100-222-620 128MB !!!
Hey Starhawk!
I *have* a chunk of PC-100-222-620 128MB memory... Only one, mind you - but if you PM me your address, I'll be happy to mail it out ASAP, okay...?
*PLUS* -
I've also got a chunk of PC100-222-620 32 (Count 'Em! 32!!!) MB memory if you or anyone could use it...
All The Best, as ever,
- Babaguy
UPDATE: NO CAN DO, because it doesn't have that old fashioned (Japanese?) EDO designation.... But if anyone else is needy... PM me!
I *have* a chunk of PC-100-222-620 128MB memory... Only one, mind you - but if you PM me your address, I'll be happy to mail it out ASAP, okay...?
*PLUS* -
I've also got a chunk of PC100-222-620 32 (Count 'Em! 32!!!) MB memory if you or anyone could use it...
All The Best, as ever,
- Babaguy
UPDATE: NO CAN DO, because it doesn't have that old fashioned (Japanese?) EDO designation.... But if anyone else is needy... PM me!
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Re: Opera 12.16 for 214x Classic
Ok Had a look at your pet package, you broke the pet package by renaming it after you made the pet. Always rename the folder first, delete the old ***.pet.specs file inside the folder and then make the pet package.Eathray wrote:Okay, so here is a recent version of Opera for 214x Classic:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/k0xg4f
Maybe somebody wants to grab it quick and put it somewhere official because I don't know anything about this file sharing site or how long they'll leave it up.
It's a recent Opera and seems to work mostly good on my older laptop. 12.16 for Linux. This is only my second pet so... hope it works.
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I redid the .Desktop file, I changed the icons, added a home button, added the bookmarks bar, added bookmarks, added duckduckgo and Ad Block Plus, and removed the locales, removed the kdelibs, removed the gstreamer plugins, added links to gxine plugin and flash plugin. here's the link http://www.smokey01.com/ttuuxxx/2.14X/S ... 60-386.pet its 13mb ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
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Here's the latest MtPaint
Oh yeah I change the default icons like I usually do
ttuuxxx
Oh yeah I change the default icons like I usually do
ttuuxxx
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http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
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Re: PC-100-222-620 128MB !!!
That reminds me, I still need to box up some 30 pin SIMMS for Starhawk (oh, and some ISA cards)...babaguy wrote:Hey Starhawk!
I *have* a chunk of PC-100-222-620 128MB memory... Only one, mind you - but if you PM me your address, I'll be happy to mail it out ASAP, okay...?
*PLUS* -
I've also got a chunk of PC100-222-620 32 (Count 'Em! 32!!!) MB memory if you or anyone could use it...
All The Best, as ever,
- Babaguy
UPDATE: NO CAN DO, because it doesn't have that old fashioned (Japanese?) EDO designation.... But if anyone else is needy... PM me!
Does he also need PC100? I could dig through my collection and see if I have anything left...
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No! No PC100.
I need 144-pin EDO memory, for laptops. (SODIMMs.) The right stuff will probably say that it's PC133, but it may not. Two of these are what I've asked my father for at Christmas. Those are PERFECT for my CPi... two would max it out, which is what I want to do.
I need 144-pin EDO memory, for laptops. (SODIMMs.) The right stuff will probably say that it's PC133, but it may not. Two of these are what I've asked my father for at Christmas. Those are PERFECT for my CPi... two would max it out, which is what I want to do.
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[quote="starhawk"]No! No PC100.
I need 144-pin EDO memory, for laptops. (SODIMMs.) The right stuff will probably say that it's PC133, but it may not. Two of [url=http://www.ebay.com/itm/151770974383]these[/url] are what I've asked my father for at Christmas. Those are PERFECT for my CPi... two would max it out, which is what I want to do.[/quote]
Let me see if I can get my crap into one location, here's what I pulled off the shelf next to me.
I believe that I only have 1 machine that uses anything of this class, and it already has 256MB (2x128) in it... And I don't use it for anything other than a "test bed" (and perhaps that very rare need for Windows 98).
So these are available (I can't tell you if they work, but probably...)
I need 144-pin EDO memory, for laptops. (SODIMMs.) The right stuff will probably say that it's PC133, but it may not. Two of [url=http://www.ebay.com/itm/151770974383]these[/url] are what I've asked my father for at Christmas. Those are PERFECT for my CPi... two would max it out, which is what I want to do.[/quote]
Let me see if I can get my crap into one location, here's what I pulled off the shelf next to me.
I believe that I only have 1 machine that uses anything of this class, and it already has 256MB (2x128) in it... And I don't use it for anything other than a "test bed" (and perhaps that very rare need for Windows 98).
So these are available (I can't tell you if they work, but probably...)
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Hang on, I just found 4 more (2 in a bag labelled "good").starhawk wrote:Hate to be a pest -- but -- can you pull the numbers off one of the chips for the first and the last sticks in that quartet? I can't make sense of the labels... but if I know chips, I can find datasheets -- and I can read datasheets
Left end is S16008LK9TW -75AG
Right end is: 48LC8M16A2 -75 B
I think that I also found a couple internal wireless cards.
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Just added an image to the previous message.starhawk wrote:None of the first four are EDO... I'll hang on for your next post
My bet is that none of my collection is EDO...
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(I thought that I had accumulated some internal wireless cards also -- don't see them at the moment -- but with a PCMCIA USB and a USB dongle, you can get wireless)starhawk wrote:So I see
Chip #s from lefty and middle, please.
Also, those two MiniPCI cards are modems. Recycle or keep, but don't send 'em here, please.
Left: GM72V661641CT10K
Middle (Crucial): 48LC8M16A2
Back side says: MT8LSDT1664HG-13EG3
BTW, did I mention 30-pin simms?
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