Turbo Puppy, faster than a speeding Greyhound!

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#61 Post by **Pizzasgood** » Fri 26 Jan 2007, 21:27

A note on amish's asterisk: Stick a special tag after any code you wish to find. Then when you have a messy script, you can use find to locate them. For example:

Code: Select all

echo "Debugging stuff $whatever" ###DEBUG

amish · #62 Post by **amish** » Sat 27 Jan 2007, 05:29

you can use # that way? COOL! ty, haven't noticed that yet.

Aitch · #63 Post by **Aitch** » Wed 04 Apr 2007, 19:15

Ha Ha Ha
I've been following this thread all the way through, and apart from Jam's comment about 'older slow machines' you all seem to have flyers.
My old P3/600Mhz with wifi takes just over 2 1/2 minutes to load to desktop Puppy 2.14 live CD
I'd love a PC I can just turn on & it works, but unfortunately, because of the fact that most PC hardware has evolved around 8086 architecture, it won't happen.
Thinking out of the box maybe in the future, I will turn on my PC. A screen ,or dare I say, voice, will inquire, [modprobe user?]
"Any changes since last use Aitch? No response will be assumed as no change in 2 seconds"
System starts as if woken from snooze,
and I start using it
Like I started Ha Ha Ha.....................
Unless, Barry....maybe.........reads this and can...
Oh, shame, I woke up!!!
Or did linux?
(anyhow, thanks to Barry for the best distro I've tried - bar none)

veronicathecow · #64 Post by **veronicathecow** » Thu 05 Apr 2007, 08:05

Hi, a full HDD install is the fastest method I have found. Hope this helps. I agree about the modprobe, unless told otherwise, boot with previous finding should speed things up.

veronicathecow · #65 Post by **veronicathecow** » Tue 22 May 2007, 18:48

Quick post, any developers interested in following this??

http://en.opensuse.org/Boot_time

Aitch · #66 Post by **Aitch** » Wed 23 May 2007, 02:10

Veronicathecow
Very interesting post

Methinks the puppy developers will have to get busy if puppy is to maintain it's reputation as being fast

Here's wishing them well, though perhaps an ideas/feedback platform is needed before taking a leap?

Does anyone actually know [i.e. is it documented, in any order of sequence] what a minimum sequence should be?
- I mean, user input AFTER desktop/CLI might work for printers/external non-essential peripherals e.g. scanners/cameras/ext H/Ds et al, to save time
booting
Or have I got that wrong?
Anyway, the post looks like a start!

GuestToo · #67 Post by **GuestToo** » Wed 23 May 2007, 03:13

if you try to speed up the boot process by starting processes in parallel, it is possible that some machines will no longer boot properly

this would be less of a problem if the hardware was standardized, like Apple machines

personally, i would prefer more reliable to quicker ... especially since Puppy only takes about 20 or 30 seconds to boot on my machine

veronicathecow · #68 Post by **veronicathecow** » Tue 27 May 2008, 06:34

Fast booting linux and motherboards.
http://www.splashtop.com/index.php
It's being fitted to all ASUS M/Bs eventually and is a fast booting 5-10 seconds approx (power to launch of browser!) mini linux for doing basic stuff such as surfing etc.
Just what the doctor ordered!
I wonder if there are things they could learn from us and we from them?
Tony

Lobster · #69 Post by **Lobster** » Tue 27 May 2008, 08:41

At the moment Asus Splashtop (they use a different name) is only on their top end motherboards. As soon as the lower end is included I will get one. 90% of my time is in a browser . . .
We should really contact Asus and get samples . . .

veronicathecow · #70 Post by **veronicathecow** » Tue 27 May 2008, 08:50

Makes you wonder how big the flash memory is and how much puppy (with their drives etc could be squeezed in? Hope you get the sample

Aitch · #71 Post by **Aitch** » Tue 27 May 2008, 09:24

Hi Tony

This looks interesting

*buntu superfastboot is being tried as we speak

http://www.harald-hoyer.de/linux/boot-t ... comparison

http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/1926/

http://upstart.ubuntu.com/

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=694979

also, though I can't locate the article, I remember reading that there was a way to circumvent the hardware probe phase, by writing a list of installed hardware somewhere [rc.d?] & so long as no hardware had been changed, to reduce bootups to the elusive sub-10 seconds

That'd be cool, eh?

- on a P3/667 it'd be amazing!

I live & dream

Aitch

8Geee · #72 Post by **8Geee** » Wed 28 May 2008, 05:43

hmmm... part of the problem with fast access is the reliance on the optical media device. Lets put it in HDD/USB. Heres a novel thought I posted in another thread... Suppose Puppy is downloaded originally as a tar-gz file as the bootable with the ability to partition/format the HDD. The main program would be a 2nd tar-gz file that installs wherever you want, to load into RAM. One boots from the HDD/SSD which is usually first and fastest. If said main program is in the 2nd partition of the HDD, it goes to RAM fast. This would eliminate detection of peripherals outside of the usual ping/ID. Could be faster? and do away with ISO?

magerlab · #73 Post by **magerlab** » Sun 01 Jun 2008, 09:22

i wonder if it's possible to make a "splashtop" based on puppy ( e.g. to use breeezy as a base)?

veronicathecow · #74 Post by **veronicathecow** » Sun 01 Jun 2008, 11:40

I would guess that having the OS in the fast flash bios and the no need to probe for hardware and the kernel compiled for a particular board is what makes it so speedy and small. Perhaps if the same can be done for Puppy then we might get the best of both worlds on one of these M/Bs

Aitch · #75 Post by **Aitch** » Mon 02 Jun 2008, 20:21

Perhaps we should adopt a VIA?

See my todays post

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=29725

Aitch

8Geee · #76 Post by **8Geee** » Mon 09 Jun 2008, 09:06

One of the nuances of the ExpressGate device is thats its soldered onto the MoBo (nonremoveable unless one is adept at desoldering).

Another is it runs off RAM, and is a ROM-based application. Very small size physically, and very fast to execute and boot. ASUS probably has access to some very fast ROM chips.

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