Puppy 4.3 Beta2 -- bugs and reports

[panzerpuppy]

1.1.17 handles the FoxHurricane site better than 1.1.15 but still fails

1.1.18 might fix your problems. It renders pages even better than 1.1.17.

[edoc]

On my weather-related page: http://kd4e.com/wp.html

I have a link which runs an external URL through the Yahoo-Babelfish translator to render it in Spanish (or at least some of it). This takes you to the Spansih-language page:
http://kd4e.com/espanol-weather.html

This is the link: http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_ur ... =Translate

The link worked in 1.1.15 and in 2.0Beta but does not work in 1.1.17

[edoc]

1.1.17 handles the FoxHurricane site better than 1.1.15 but still fails

1.1.18 might fix your problems. It renders pages even better than 1.1.17.

Is it available as a PET or SFS for 4.21 and 4.31b2 (424)?

I have Fatdog on this laptop for the ath9k "n" drivers - I believe that I read here that 4.31b2 (424) includes those drivers?

This is my do-not-break laptop so I have to wait for the stable release before applying it here.

[edoc]

Any chance of support for a USB digitalTV card like this in 4.3.1Final (424)?

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/prod ... id=1003769

With digital TV one either has to deal with a converter box or go out an buy a digital-tuner equipped TV.

Sure would be nice to just get TV on a laptop.

Any idea if drivers are in the newer Kernel?

EDIT

Just discovered that the manufacturer does provide drivers and read elsewhere that Kaffeine at least handles channel scanning:

http://www.avermedia-usa.com/avertv/Sup ... b=APDriver

Version
0.07 Beta
Date: 2009/05/21
OS Linux x86

Description

The following distributions, with their stock kernel, are officially tested and supported:

1. Open SuSE Linux 10.3
2. Mandriva Linux 2008
3. Fedora Core Release 6
4. Fedora Core Release 7
5. Ubuntu 7.10
6. Ubuntu 8.04
7. Ubuntu 8.10
8. Ubuntu 9.04
9. Mandriva Linux 2009

The system requirements appear to be for a MS version of windows, would it be likely that the Linux system requirements may be significantly less?

System Requirements
Processor For TimeShift and Record in MPEG-2
Pentium Mobile 1.8GHz
Pentium 4 2.6GHz (Hyper-Threading)
AMD AthlonXP 2400+

Analog TV on MCE platform
Pentium 4 3.0G or Equal AMD CPU

For H.264 Recording
Pentium 4 3.0GHz with HT (Hyper-Threading) or Equivalent AMD Processor for Analog TV
Intel Dual Core 1.6GHz or Equivalent AMD processor for Digital HDTV
Graphics Card 128 M VGA card with DirectX 9.0c or above(Supporting DXVA is recommended in HDTV mode)
Memory 512 MB RAM or above
Available Slot USB 2.0 Port
Operating Systems Supported Windows XP / XP MCE / Vista / Vista MCE
Others Sound card

[alex12]

I'm testing now and I like how it recognizes my wireless'

Bugs so far:
File-types like mp4 and divx don't open by default but gxine will play them
ogg videos encoded in vlc open as audio only (works in ubuntu)
clicking on mp3 opens file in paused state (just annoying)
flv is associated with gxine but the icon is a binary block

[paulh177]

what version of pup were you upgrading from?

430beta1

[MinHundHettePerro]

Not a new bug at all!

The long-standing issue of desktop drive icons being stacked on top of each other, either in the lower left corner of the screen, or on the right hand side of the screen when the lower row has been filled is addressed here.

I've been using 800x600 res. since the time when this higher resolution was a major upgrade from 640x480, and I decided to stay with this due to the fact that my eye-sight does not improve at the same rapid pace that screen-resolutions have improved.

My screen-resolution of choice is one of the more troublesome, in regard to the desktop drive icons piling up, for arithmetic reasons.

One way to avoid, at least partly, troubles with the desktop drive icons has been to set the icon grid step in Rox-Filer to 2 (fine), I can now set it to 32 (coarse) without any icons piling up.

In 800x600 res. only 11 drive icons can be displayed without any superimposed drive icons, and I need 12 drive icons for my internal drives/partitions.

Should I venture to mount one or both of my 8-partition external USB-drives, I'd have a lot of sifting through the stack of drive-icons to find the right one.

This is, however, something I've fixed for myself from 4.12 and onwards - using more than the bottom row for drive icons.

I just thought I might share it, since I saw that the problem still prevails in 4.3b2.

Attached is a screen-cap of my mounted drives (Icons are auto-placed, I didn't arrange them ), and my simple modifications to "/sbin/pup_event_frontend_d", wherein my mods are marked with " # MHHP " at the end of the modded lines (lines 69-71 and function "free_coord()" beginning at line 138).

For the geometrically troublesome 800x600 res. it is recommended to change JWM tray height back to its old value for normal height (26).

Just a quick hack that works for me and maybe it can be of some use to others.

(Not addressed here is the case where a desktop icon is not placed according to the initial grid, and therefore could be partly overlayed by a desktop drive icon (due to the simplified checking for overlapping) - I've made it "fool-proof" for one of my full installs, but I assume that my present solution could render pup_event_frontend_d sluggish in the more general case. Will post it, if and when, I get some time to look into it again.)

Pheeww! what a long and dull post!

EDIT: Forgot to mention , if you'd want to try this small hack out, you should, after replacing pup_event_frontend_d, delete all entries for drive icons in PuppyPin, and then restart X.

FWIW/
MHHP

[skippy721]

hi, first of all i want to thank everyone involvlved with puppy i have been using it for almost a year now and love it,, up until last month i ran it on a toshiba laptop with 800 mhz and 256 ram ,, new life to old hardware,, ok to the point , i bought a new laptop an aspire 5515 amd based and put good old 4.11 in it ,,no wifi ,, oh well research told me be patient so i muddled wit a few puplets btw eaton worked but not my taste well with 4.3 beta everything finly works hardware wise ,, so i did full install and lost my pretty lil icons just place holders left i just wanted to mention it but i am so happy with puppy that when i bought this thing i wiped out the other pos /os to run puppy all on its own

thank you so much for your work ,,
brian

[BarryK]

BTW, I am about to build a set of Intel537 drivers -- there are actually 4 of them, for the various flavors. Each is about 4 MB, so I fear for what that would do to puppy's waistline. Because I favor a puppy that can load its program squashfile into the ramfs in PCs with only 256 MB of RAM, I suspect we are facing migrating the heaviest of the modem drivers to a zdrv (or equivalent) auxiliary squashfile. Perhaps all modem drivers in their own subdirectories would be candidates for migration, except for modems built into laptops or motherboards. That would recognize that not all users need all of the modem drivers in their ramfs.

Yes, 4.3 is going to end up too fat!
I'm going to add another choice in the Woof '3builddistro' script to extract just the large modem drivers and their firmware tarballs into a separate 'zdrv'.

This zdrv will not be in the live-cd iso, it will be available separately for download.

The zdrv has to be named in a very precise manner. This is how it is done:

PREFIX1CHAR="`echo -n "$DISTRO_FILE_PREFIX" | cut -c 1`"
KERNEL3CHARS="`echo -n "$KERNELVER" | tr -d '.' | tr -d '\-' | tr -d '[a-z]' | rev | cut -c 1,2,3 | rev`"

z${PREFIX1CHAR}${DISTRO_VERSION}${KERNEL3CHARS}.sfs

In 4.3beta2 (as I intend for the final) DISTRO_FILE_PREFIX="pup"
For the 2.6.30.5 kernel, KERNEL3CHARS="305"

So, for 4.3final, the zdrv must be named:

zp430305.sfs

Anyone can provide a zdrv with this name, with their own drivers or whatever, or even start with my official one and add more stuff to it.

It isn't controlled by the BootManager, if present at /mnt/home it gets automatically loaded. Puppy will automatically run 'depmod' first time it is loaded, and again if it is removed.

[BarryK]

Bonjour à tous,
Clean live-CD install, Puppy 424.
Locale fr_Fr: gpartedshell does not appears in French. But by launching gparted or gpartedbin to the console, the display works in French.
Cordialement

Unfortunately we have ongoing problems with locales. There was an earlier report that GParted crashed with a certain locale (I don't recall which one) so the gparted_shell script now has this in it:

export LANG=C

Lobster is now reporting that QUISP crashes with a server error, with en_GB. I wonder about PPLOG, which also uses Hiawatha web server.

...would you mind testing those with fr_FR?

If they crash too, then once again I might have to put
export LANG=C
into the startup scripts (/usr/sbin/quisp_shell, pplog_gui.

[BarryK]

Boot time on laptop Medion PIII600MHz192MBRam (bought in year 2000!) = 31 sec !

Ah, you've got a Median! Awhile back, forum member Beem reported that 4.3alpha would only boot if certain boot parameters were typed in -- I don't recall, maybe acpi turned on. Whatever, do you have the Median booting from live-cd without any special boot parameters? -- if so, that is very good news indeed.

[BarryK]

The long-standing issue of desktop drive icons being stacked on top of each other, either in the lower left corner of the screen, or on the right hand side of the screen when the lower row has been filled is addressed here.

Man, you've got a few partitions there!

[BarryK]

I would love to have the 2.6.25.16 kernel available now for my Asus EEE 900.

Jake, forget about the 2.6.25 kernel. The 2.6.30 kernel in Puppy 4.3b2 supports the Atheros AR5007EG wifi device with its standard ath5k module.

And Atheros N-mode wifi devices, as found in more recent Eee models, are supported by the standard ath9k module.

... of course, there will still be some "exotic" third-party modules which still need to be compiled, such as the Eee-fan module and the rtl8187se wifi module.

I will get around to these when Puppy's kernel version is finalised.

Tempestuous,
Yes, it is finalised!
The 2.6.30.5 kernel will be in 4.3final. Furthermore, that's the only kernel that I will be building with.

Source, including SFS:

http://puppylinux.com/sources/kernel-2.6.30.5/

[straypup]

Cannot save back to live CD. This has worked thru 4.2.1 , but new version doesn't. Otherwise works very fast. Please put more contrast into new theme no matter what it ends up. Like the metallic look.
Thanks Stray

[tlchost]

I will work on this if you can send me a PM with these files attached:
- /tmp/bootsysinit.log
- /tmp/udevtrace.log
- /var/log/messages

Any luck? Or, can I copy some file from a version of Puppy that does support my sound card???

Thanks
Thom

[rerwin]

Attached are the results of my effort to upgrade the support for Intel 537-type dialup modems. There are four variants of that type, only one of which has been supported until now. I built drivers for all four variants, but renamed them to match the variant. Now the modules are named intel537, intel537EP, intel537SP, and intel537EA. However, they all show in lsmod as Intel537, which they actually are but with internal code differences. (The upgrade of the current Intel537 module is intel537EP.)

I placed them in a new subdirectory, intelmodem; the Intel536 driver could be moved there, too, from extra. The udev rules are updated and renamed (60-dialup-modem.rules), to load the appropriate variant of the Intel537 driver. And the firmware tarball is updated.

I am including the build instructions for this driver set, as well as those for the agrsm and Intel536 drivers, for the sources library.
Richard

UPDATE 9/21/09: I have removed this version of the drivers because they cause a catastrophic impact from the full depmod command. They are replaced by a new version posted in the puppy 4.3-final Bugs thread. The remaining dotpet here contains the udev rules file for this driver, which is not included in the new-version set of dotpets.

[Crash]

This isn't a bug as such, but there was some work done to the 4.2.1 version of the init file within initrd.gz that didn't carry over to the 4.3 betas. Specifically, Pizzasgood has some nice changes, and I added two new boot parameters, psubok and psave, which added some more flexibility. Total amount of code change is minimal.

I wouldn't mind doing the initrd hack myself, but a lot changed in it since 4.2.1, and it seems like a moving target at present. Maybe I should wait until 4.3 is released, then make changes? I don't know how else to avoid duplicate effort.

[sinc]

for those people mentioning they are confused about the the 424 - 430 numbering system.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=331650

[jgbpup]

Hey

ANYONE got this working on the Eee 701SD (specifically the SD, not the 4 or 8g) as it has the realtek8187 wifi and the Elantech multitap touchpad, etc...

ive only seen no goes reported so far.

Thanks

(sorry, not techno inclined to be able to install, mess around and test.... gotta wait to see who gets what working (grin))

[edoc]

Thanks for trying ... but I remain confused how is this Beta both 4.3b2 and 4.24 at the same time?