Lucid Puppy 5.1- A Full-Featured Compact Distro
Why no xorg.conf at first boot?
Testing keymap-set on luci-212
Boot up luci-212 with ram-only mode.
Appears first run configuration window... close.
Install keymap-set-20100718.pet.
From virtual terminal, type: keymap-set
Choose 'jp106'.
Works effectively. /etc/keymap is correctly set to 'jp106'.
But after restarting X, the keyboard layout is ruined because xorg.conf is not used.
Where is the X configuration of the first run desktop?
Boot up luci-212 with ram-only mode.
Appears first run configuration window... close.
Install keymap-set-20100718.pet.
From virtual terminal, type: keymap-set
Choose 'jp106'.
Works effectively. /etc/keymap is correctly set to 'jp106'.
But after restarting X, the keyboard layout is ruined because xorg.conf is not used.
Where is the X configuration of the first run desktop?
I second that.ttuuxxx wrote:Hi WhoDo, since you've been appointed as Art Director in 5.1, could we have 24x24 menu and desktop connect icons please, it always looks so much better when I change them, plus you can delete a wack of extra 16x16 icons that are included in puppy, they are redundant icon from the past, usually I install the full gtk2 icons and system link them, That way extra gtk2 icons will appear in gtk2 programs menus, also they can be manually added to rox.
ttuuxxx
[b]Tahr Pup 6 on desktop, Lucid 3HD on lappie[/b]
Hi Shinobar, Since version 7.3 Xorg has not needed an xorg.conf file, and has been capable of auto configuration. we are using that in lUpu in order to boot directly to the desktop. Actually a truncated xorg.conf is created. If the auto config needs to be changed for a different keyboard layout or graphics driver then we return to the Puppy approach of creating the xorg.conf.I cannot understand why xorg.
the bottom line is that it is not a bug to not create the complete xorg.conf on first boot.
Thanks.
Install keymap-set-20100718.pet.
From virtual terminal, type: keymap-set
Choose 'jp106'.
Works effectively. /etc/keymap is correctly set to 'jp106'.
You will need to use the first run wizard to create an xorg.conf.But after restarting X, the keyboard layout is ruined because xorg.conf is not used.
I don't understand. It is possible to change the keyboard layout easily to any national version. I keep changing it to strange keyboards that I can barely use I am working on luci-213 and the dialog looks like this. I can change back and forth and it seems to work fine. If 212 is not working please let us know how. It would also work to exit to a prompt and run xorgwizard. We will have a friendly interface that allows changing whatever options need to be changed easily and reliably.So I was surprised the direct boot to desktop was there again, making all those people with national keyboards unhappy again.
<Add> We are committed to Language Support including keyboard layouts. At least 5 major programs offer NLS by default, and there is an NLS pack for another in PPM and maybe more by release. Changing keyboard layout will work easily and reliably before release.
Last edited by playdayz on Sun 18 Jul 2010, 18:08, edited 1 time in total.
I really hate Cups.212 Well.............. printing hangs! Not seen that in Puppy for a long while........
<Add> I just tested in luci-213 and Cups found my Brother HL-2040 and printed a test page and a page from Abiword. I will keep looking but please test luci-213 for this--when it is posted in a day or two.. Thanks.
Last edited by playdayz on Sun 18 Jul 2010, 18:06, edited 2 times in total.
Good news. gnome-mplayer 0.9.6 plays the .ogv file directly. It also does some other things correctly with jwm, so it will be the one we use, starting in luci-213.The ogv file would not play with gnome-mplayer, but it would play with Smplayer. It would also play with VLC. Somehow I took SMplayer out of the PPM repo. Why did I do that?
Anyway I think music playing on the desktop might be recorded by changing the Input Sour in Alsamixer.
I went ahead and installed VLC as lobster suggested this enabled output file to be transcode after recording and to be played locally - just to test out i have uploaded a small .ogv video recording to youtube but for me when i watch it is unwatchable and all blocky and pixilated. ?
I was writing this up for 01micko and I thought people might be interested in how the auto config process works. BTW, wait until you see what micko has done with the recommendation window at the bottom of the first run dialog. it is like magic.
The boot process is the same until xorgwizard starts. There is an abbreviated xorgwizard that writes just the skeleton of the xorg.conf, and then deletes the driver that enables auto config and replaces itself with the full xorgwizard, so that after the first boot Puppy behaves as before. On first boot, the user has the opportunity to change whatever needs to be changed, easily and reliably, including the Video resolution and driver, the Language and Locale, the keyboard layout. The user can take the opportunity to change things on first boot, or later on can use the Video, Language & Keyboard Changer, or any of the traditional Puppy utilities to change things. Changing the keyboard layout requires that you go through the process to select the video driver--the reason is that an important part of the keyboard info is kept in the part of the xorg.conf that is only created by running the full xorgwizard
This is the xorgwizard that runs on first boot. What it does is to
1. write the skeleton xorg.conf
2. delete the displaylink_drv, because displaylink is what enables the auto config
3. copy the complete xorgwizard on top of itself so that next time it will not auto-config and the complete xorgwizard will run and create the complete xorg.conf
4. after it exits auto config takes place
What we need to do is to catch the Intel 855 (and possibly others) at the beginning of this brief xorgwizard, and handle it. I think the first try might be to delete the intel_drv and the i810 symlink to the intel_drv and replace that with the complete i810_drv. When it auto configs, Xorg “matches
The boot process is the same until xorgwizard starts. There is an abbreviated xorgwizard that writes just the skeleton of the xorg.conf, and then deletes the driver that enables auto config and replaces itself with the full xorgwizard, so that after the first boot Puppy behaves as before. On first boot, the user has the opportunity to change whatever needs to be changed, easily and reliably, including the Video resolution and driver, the Language and Locale, the keyboard layout. The user can take the opportunity to change things on first boot, or later on can use the Video, Language & Keyboard Changer, or any of the traditional Puppy utilities to change things. Changing the keyboard layout requires that you go through the process to select the video driver--the reason is that an important part of the keyboard info is kept in the part of the xorg.conf that is only created by running the full xorgwizard
This is the xorgwizard that runs on first boot. What it does is to
1. write the skeleton xorg.conf
2. delete the displaylink_drv, because displaylink is what enables the auto config
3. copy the complete xorgwizard on top of itself so that next time it will not auto-config and the complete xorgwizard will run and create the complete xorg.conf
4. after it exits auto config takes place
What we need to do is to catch the Intel 855 (and possibly others) at the beginning of this brief xorgwizard, and handle it. I think the first try might be to delete the intel_drv and the i810 symlink to the intel_drv and replace that with the complete i810_drv. When it auto configs, Xorg “matches
Last edited by playdayz on Sun 18 Jul 2010, 17:54, edited 5 times in total.
I need to compile one kernel module or at least I try to do that. It is a patch to get my battery status working.
But.....
But.....
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You don't have permission to access /01micko/lupu_kernel/kernel_src_L4-2.6.33.2-patched.sfs on this server.
Hi pemasu, 01micko will be up in a few hours. Here is a link to the longer kernel sources as Barry posted them--01micko cut them down by over a third I think.pemasu wrote:I need to compile one kernel module or at least I try to do that. It is a patch to get my battery status working.
But.....
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Forbidden You don't have permission to access /01micko/lupu_kernel/kernel_src_L4-2.6.33.2-patched.sfs on this server.
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01474
More interface theory.
When people have booted successfully to the desktop they will see the First Run Dialog. We expect over half of all users to click OK. Those who want to change something will click the other button, for the Video, Language & Keyboard Chooser.
From the VLK-Changer, people can change the video resolution, the Language and Locale, and the keyboard layout and/or video driver.
When people have booted successfully to the desktop they will see the First Run Dialog. We expect over half of all users to click OK. Those who want to change something will click the other button, for the Video, Language & Keyboard Chooser.
From the VLK-Changer, people can change the video resolution, the Language and Locale, and the keyboard layout and/or video driver.
Sorry pemasu
It was the permissions, should be ok now
Cheers
It was the permissions, should be ok now
Cheers
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I did a fresh frugal install of 212 and printing works fine. I wonder if DaveS upgraded his pupsave file and some little problem crept in.playdayz wrote:I just tested in luci-213 and Cups found my Brother HL-2040 and printed a test page and a page from Abiword. I will keep looking but please test luci-213 for this--when it is posted in a day or two
firewall working? yes or no
This answers that old question. Is the firewall working?
Would be nice feature for first start of Lucid Puppy.
Firewall status tray icon applet
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=57725
Would be nice feature for first start of Lucid Puppy.
Firewall status tray icon applet
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=57725
Good idea bigpup. Thanks.This answers that old question. Is the firewall working?
Would be nice feature for first start of Lucid Puppy.
Firewall status tray icon applet
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=57725
Firewall
Yep, that's Tasmod's (Rob's) app, it works fine
AND ________________________________
(I can hardly contain my excitement.. no not icewm)
Printing
Yippee! Hooray!!!
I got my brand new Canon MP-490 (multi- thingy) to print.... in 213
http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/lucid/canon-mp-490.pet
MP-490 Puppy driver, should work in any Puppy.. 1.7M full version, docs and nls
petspecs>> canon-mp-490|canon-mp|490||BuildingBlock|7684K||canon-mp-490.pet||canon mp490 drivers|ubuntu|lucid||
Cutdown
http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/lucid/c ... -lucid.pet 1M
petspecs>> canon-mp-490-lucid|canon-mp|490-lucid||BuildingBlock|4060K||canon-mp-490-lucid.pet||canon mp490 drivers|ubuntu|lucid||
Instructions>>
Cheers and enjoy
(um, scanning on same machine later)
Yep, that's Tasmod's (Rob's) app, it works fine
AND ________________________________
(I can hardly contain my excitement.. no not icewm)
Printing
Yippee! Hooray!!!
I got my brand new Canon MP-490 (multi- thingy) to print.... in 213
- test page ....check
abiword ....check
gnumeric ..check
geany ...check
http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/lucid/canon-mp-490.pet
MP-490 Puppy driver, should work in any Puppy.. 1.7M full version, docs and nls
petspecs>> canon-mp-490|canon-mp|490||BuildingBlock|7684K||canon-mp-490.pet||canon mp490 drivers|ubuntu|lucid||
Cutdown
http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/lucid/c ... -lucid.pet 1M
petspecs>> canon-mp-490-lucid|canon-mp|490-lucid||BuildingBlock|4060K||canon-mp-490-lucid.pet||canon mp490 drivers|ubuntu|lucid||
Instructions>>
- *installpet
*run cups>addprinter>etc
*find the ppd file (/usr/shar/ppd/ )
*set defaults
*print
Cheers and enjoy
(um, scanning on same machine later)
Last edited by 01micko on Mon 19 Jul 2010, 05:33, edited 1 time in total.
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