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Posted: Sun 21 Nov 2010, 19:45
by DaveS
Confusing Puppy?

Posted: Sun 21 Nov 2010, 19:57
by Iguleder
To avoid the confusion - the current name of this dpup thingy is Puppy Squeeze. Testing builds need an ironic name, that's Zen Puppy. Simple as Lupu and Luci.

I'm working on something similar but very different (:lol:) with Debian Sid instead of Debian Squeeze. That's to make it more future-proof and much easier to develop. It's also good for Woof and all Woof-built puppies, especially Lupu and all Ubuntu wooflets.

The "Puppy Squeeze" name can no longer be used because it derives from Debian Squeeze, which is no longer the base. This thing needs a name. I used "Puppy Sid" to make things simpler, but that's a bad name. I want it to have real identity as a Puppy release and not just another wooflet.

By the way, the name pemasu suggested is awesome. I say, let's go for it :)

Posted: Sun 21 Nov 2010, 21:46
by pemasu
I know that Iguleder will give me moral lesson for this, but... it was so nice to found that Sid001 already had almost everything needed already.

There was no way to compile it in luci 238 because almost everything needed was missing.

So I compiled latest Gucview for webcams. I got inspiration from IRC discussion with Iguleder.
I apology that I made this before Iguleder had time to announce his newest treasure.
But everybody has now possibility to test it straight.
Needed dependency, libportaudio is included in the pet.

http://guvcview.berlios.de/

Posted: Sun 21 Nov 2010, 22:28
by tubeguy
Iguleder wrote:To avoid the confusion - the current name of this dpup thingy is Puppy Squeeze. Testing builds need an ironic name, that's Zen Puppy. Simple as Lupu and Luci.

I'm working on something similar but very different (:lol:) with Debian Sid instead of Debian Squeeze. That's to make it more future-proof and much easier to develop. It's also good for Woof and all Woof-built puppies, especially Lupu and all Ubuntu wooflets.

The "Puppy Squeeze" name can no longer be used because it derives from Debian Squeeze, which is no longer the base. This thing needs a name. I used "Puppy Sid" to make things simpler, but that's a bad name. I want it to have real identity as a Puppy release and not just another wooflet.

By the way, the name pemasu suggested is awesome. I say, let's go for it :)
http://www.rabittooth.com/1024x768StarW ... us1024.jpg
http://bit.ly/9Xdxtm

Posted: Sun 21 Nov 2010, 22:31
by pemasu
:)
Need a Puppy logo with lightsaber. But could the saber be blue ?

Posted: Sun 21 Nov 2010, 22:33
by Karl Godt
Found a Bug that might affect many gtkdialog applications that seems only occur at dpup : the combobox at jwmthememaker doesn't show any input ( see screenshot )
The formatting has to be cared about.
FIX :

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# diff -up /mnt/+mnt+sdc7+dpup-009+dpup-009.sfs/usr/local/jwmthememaker/jwmthememaker /usr/local/jwmthememaker/jwmthememaker
--- /mnt/+mnt+sdc7+dpup-009+dpup-009.sfs/usr/local/jwmthememaker/jwmthememaker
+++ /usr/local/jwmthememaker/jwmthememaker
@@ -5,9 +5,9 @@
 
 echo 'Please choose a color' > /tmp/color.tmp
 
-echo "`fc-list | cut -d ":" -f 1 | sort | uniq`" > /tmp/fontlist.txt
-cat /tmp/fontlist.txt  | awk '{print "<item>"$1" "$2" "$3" "$4"</item>"}' > /tmp/fontlist.txt
-FONTS=`cat /tmp/fontlist.txt`
+fc-list | cut -d ":" -f 1 | sort | uniq > /tmp/fontlist.txt
+cat /tmp/fontlist.txt  | awk '{print "<item>"$1" "$2" "$3" "$4"</item>"}' > /tmp/fontlist2.txt
+FONTS="`cat /tmp/fontlist2.txt`"
 
 WIDGET_DIR="`dirname $0`"
 [ "$WIDGET_DIR" = "." ] && WIDGET_DIR="`pwd`"
@@ -120,7 +120,7 @@
    <text><label>Font Name</label></text>
    <combobox tooltip-text=\"Applied to all windows, taskbar and menu\">
    <variable>FONT</variable>
-   $FONTS
+   "$FONTS"
    </combobox>
    <text><label>\"                           Font Size \"</label></text>
    <combobox tooltip-text=\"Applied to all windows, taskbar and menu\">
# 
I don't know if it is echo , awk , cat or gtkdialog3 related.

Posted: Sun 21 Nov 2010, 22:37
by tubeguy
pemasu wrote::)
Need a Puppy logo with lightsaber. But could the saber be blue ?
Well Darth Sidious had a red one...I did find a blue one here
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File: ... r_blue.png

Posted: Sun 21 Nov 2010, 23:05
by maxpro4u
pemasu wrote::)
Need a Puppy logo with lightsaber. But could the saber be blue ?
something like this perhaps

Posted: Sun 21 Nov 2010, 23:10
by tubeguy
maxpro4u wrote:
pemasu wrote::)
Need a Puppy logo with lightsaber. But could the saber be blue ?
something like this perhaps
This forum needs a like button. :D

Posted: Sun 21 Nov 2010, 23:32
by tubeguy

Posted: Sun 21 Nov 2010, 23:43
by tubeguy

Posted: Mon 22 Nov 2010, 00:35
by Béèm

Posted: Mon 22 Nov 2010, 00:56
by tubeguy
Béèm wrote:
hmmmm, you're still under influence of Halloween?
Nah, science fiction.

Posted: Mon 22 Nov 2010, 01:30
by maxpro4u
tubeguy wrote:
Béèm wrote:
hmmmm, you're still under influence of Halloween?
Nah, science fiction.
how do you get the pic to show up instead of just a link to the pic?

Posted: Mon 22 Nov 2010, 08:17
by Iguleder
Wow, tubeguy, what an awesome wallpaper!

Now I'm trying to build a first ISO with all the improvements, including guvcview. This thing is really cool.

I'll open a thread, probably in the derivatives section as jemimah did with Fluppy. I just don't want to annoy the Lupu guys.

And now we also have a logo, that's something I forgot to mention. I removed the violence from the previous one and it looks kinda cool :)

EDIT: I already wrote a rationale and a brief introduction. This will be used for the new thread, now I'm working on the ISO. I'm very excited to see whether it boots or not, because of all the modifications. Now ROX-Filer is Debian's and the Puppy package has many modifications. I don't want it to get messed up too much. :)

Posted: Mon 22 Nov 2010, 10:25
by tubeguy
maxpro4u wrote:
tubeguy wrote:
Béèm wrote:hmmmm, you're still under influence of Halloween?
Nah, science fiction.
how do you get the pic to show up instead of just a link to the pic?
Put the full url to the image, highlight the url and click the "Img" button Image, you get this:

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[img]some_picturepicture.jpg[/img]

Posted: Mon 22 Nov 2010, 12:53
by Iguleder
Yay! the first build works well, but I had to roll back to the PET packages of ROX-Filer and dhcpcd.

It seems very solid ... everything works as it should. Fonts are ugly in Iceape and I don't know how the Lupu guys fixed this problem.

It has xorgwizard, the keyboard layout thingy and all the traditional pre-X stuff, that's good. It lacks the mtpaintsnapshot from dpup, because the mtPaint template contains the one from Lupu. I just need to put the PET I made for the dpup one after mtPaint so it replaces the other mtpaintsnapshot, nothing serious.

The size is huge, it's 165 MB, because the fonts are 18 MB uncompressed. I think I'll build another one with just dejavu fonts.

http://i53.tinypic.com/2yzio7t.jpg
http://i52.tinypic.com/2gyd11i.jpg

Now it's time to compile a kernel :D

Posted: Mon 22 Nov 2010, 13:10
by DaveS
Me, I put in Ubuntu font as it has very similar spacing to Arial, which helps with documents that were written in Arial.

Posted: Mon 22 Nov 2010, 14:15
by pemasu
It could be good idea to build without extra fonts. Otherwise this puppie will be called super FAT by someone, whose name I dont say.
In the fear of fatfree master :)

Adding ubuntu font could be good idea though. I have used it also.

Posted: Mon 22 Nov 2010, 14:19
by DaveS
pemasu wrote:It could be good idea to build without extra fonts. Otherwise this puppie will be called super FAT by someone, whose name I dont say.
In the fear of fatfree master.
PLEASE Guys... lets not get all negative again :)