Xenialpup CE 7.5 / 25 Nov 2017
Defaults
Manual frugal install of Xenial Pup 64 7.0.7 running well on this test laptop, like the many other major pups I've tested on this machine.
Just a couple feedback comments since this is not yet released?
I like the new desktop and icon look. Looks kind of retro like pup431, except that it's more modern and fully functional. Didn't care much for the Tahr pup look and similar looking round icons. This is much better.
And again, this is just for the defaults, what a new user install would see. I realize these can be changed: (same issues exist in Tahr)
Default terminal is sized at 70 columns wide. Most linux distros have default terminals at the standard 80 columns, and I don't really see any reason for intentionally shrinking it to 70, makes many command outputs look odd, so maybe an oversight? Actually, in the 64 bit version, it is 68 columns and to fix it to 80 columns I have to set it for 82. Strange. Also the "~" window identifier gets kind of buried in the tray.
For Rox filer, I prefer the standard default icon size of all the other pups, instead of the small icons used in Xenial and Tahr. I usually either work with those larger icons or the detailed view. The small size is strange to work with, for me. Others may have different opinion, just giving my feedback/vote. And yes, I know this can be changed, but its just one more thing to change from default.
And lastly, I like the name change back to the Puppy and Quirky standard format. Don't know if this is an official thing or just random, but it makes sense for Puppy/Quirky to follow the Ubuntu format:
Adjective Noun
Trusty(adj) Tahr(noun)
Puppy/Quirky modifies but keeps same format:
Precise(adj) Puppy(noun)
Quirky(adj) Xerus(noun)
I always thought Tahr Pup should have been called Trusty Pup instead, but again that's just me seeing the Adj-Noun format as logical and consistent.
▶—— BASE SYSTEM ——◀
PC Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
Product Name: HP Pavilion dm1 Notebook PC
Motherboard Vendor: Hewlett-Packard
Product Name: 1611
BIOS Vendor: Hewlett-Packard
Version: F.12
Release Date: 04/26/2011
AMD E-350 Processor
Max Speed: 1600 MHz
Current Speed of Core 0:1600 MHz, 1:1600 MHz
Core Count: 2
Thread Count: 2
Just a couple feedback comments since this is not yet released?
I like the new desktop and icon look. Looks kind of retro like pup431, except that it's more modern and fully functional. Didn't care much for the Tahr pup look and similar looking round icons. This is much better.
And again, this is just for the defaults, what a new user install would see. I realize these can be changed: (same issues exist in Tahr)
Default terminal is sized at 70 columns wide. Most linux distros have default terminals at the standard 80 columns, and I don't really see any reason for intentionally shrinking it to 70, makes many command outputs look odd, so maybe an oversight? Actually, in the 64 bit version, it is 68 columns and to fix it to 80 columns I have to set it for 82. Strange. Also the "~" window identifier gets kind of buried in the tray.
For Rox filer, I prefer the standard default icon size of all the other pups, instead of the small icons used in Xenial and Tahr. I usually either work with those larger icons or the detailed view. The small size is strange to work with, for me. Others may have different opinion, just giving my feedback/vote. And yes, I know this can be changed, but its just one more thing to change from default.
And lastly, I like the name change back to the Puppy and Quirky standard format. Don't know if this is an official thing or just random, but it makes sense for Puppy/Quirky to follow the Ubuntu format:
Adjective Noun
Trusty(adj) Tahr(noun)
Puppy/Quirky modifies but keeps same format:
Precise(adj) Puppy(noun)
Quirky(adj) Xerus(noun)
I always thought Tahr Pup should have been called Trusty Pup instead, but again that's just me seeing the Adj-Noun format as logical and consistent.
▶—— BASE SYSTEM ——◀
PC Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
Product Name: HP Pavilion dm1 Notebook PC
Motherboard Vendor: Hewlett-Packard
Product Name: 1611
BIOS Vendor: Hewlett-Packard
Version: F.12
Release Date: 04/26/2011
AMD E-350 Processor
Max Speed: 1600 MHz
Current Speed of Core 0:1600 MHz, 1:1600 MHz
Core Count: 2
Thread Count: 2
Note: Frugal installs.
Having trouble remastering on 703. I'm trying to do a full (inclusive)
remaster. When I do this manually, I copy all of pup_ro2 and
pup_rw. The result is a broken pup having no sound and no wireless
capability. I get the same bad result using the remaster tool on 703.
The manual method works fine on Slacko 6.3.2 (and on various earlier
pups).
Anyone else experiencing remastering problems?
Art
Having trouble remastering on 703. I'm trying to do a full (inclusive)
remaster. When I do this manually, I copy all of pup_ro2 and
pup_rw. The result is a broken pup having no sound and no wireless
capability. I get the same bad result using the remaster tool on 703.
The manual method works fine on Slacko 6.3.2 (and on various earlier
pups).
Anyone else experiencing remastering problems?
Art
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@artsown: Is this with a savefile created or on first boot? That sounds like a bad idea. Copying pup_ro2 into pup_rw? Heh. Or maybe it isn't. It would be nice if you could do mksquashfs pup_ro2 pup_rw puppy.sfs but I think it only lets you do one at a time? I tried appending pup_rw into puppy.sfs (which was very fast) and it didn't seem to add anything when I rebooted. The adrv way seems easier (ie. copy pup_rw to /root/new then do mksquashfs new adrv_puppy_#.sfs then copy adrv to /mnt/sda/puppy).
Sailor, here's the procedure that works on other pups:
echo "Please wait. Copying files from original squash file ..."
mkdir -p /mnt/sda3/work
cp -a /initrd/pup_ro2/* /mnt/sda3/work
echo "Merging files from personal Save file ..."
cp -a /initrd/pup_rw/* /mnt/sda3/work
echo "Creating remaster ..."
mkdir -p /mnt/sda3/remaster
cd /mnt/sda3
mksquashfs work remaster/puppy.sfs -noappend
echo "Finished! Remastered file puppy.sfs is in /mnt/sda3/remaster"
Why doesn't it work on xenial pup?
Art
echo "Please wait. Copying files from original squash file ..."
mkdir -p /mnt/sda3/work
cp -a /initrd/pup_ro2/* /mnt/sda3/work
echo "Merging files from personal Save file ..."
cp -a /initrd/pup_rw/* /mnt/sda3/work
echo "Creating remaster ..."
mkdir -p /mnt/sda3/remaster
cd /mnt/sda3
mksquashfs work remaster/puppy.sfs -noappend
echo "Finished! Remastered file puppy.sfs is in /mnt/sda3/remaster"
Why doesn't it work on xenial pup?
Art
Working well OOTB for me on a HP ProBook. Only fly in the ointment is wifi.
PupSysInfo tells me
lsmod
I'm confused. Is iwlwifi being loaded but not being used or have I missed something?
PupSysInfo tells me
lspci -k▶—— Network Report ——◀
Firewall: On (ip_tables detected)
Network Status: eth0
Wireless Network: No wireless connection
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02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 8260 (rev 3a)
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Dual Band Wireless-AC 8260
Kernel modules: iwlwifi
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coretemp 4640 0
hwmon 2194 1 coretemp
iptable_filter 992 0
ip_tables 9330 1 iptable_filter
fan 2902 0
uvcvideo 66266 0
videobuf2_vmalloc 3734 1 uvcvideo
videobuf2_memops 1231 1 videobuf2_vmalloc
videobuf2_core 30470 1 uvcvideo
v4l2_common 2822 1 videobuf2_core
videodev 94678 3 uvcvideo,v4l2_common,videobuf2_core
media 9354 2 uvcvideo,videodev
btusb 28935 0
btbcm 4098 1 btusb
btintel 1201 1 btusb
bluetooth 290111 4 btbcm,btusb,btintel
snd_pcsp 6338 0
snd_hda_codec_hdmi 33154 1
snd_hda_codec_conexant 9045 1
snd_hda_codec_generic 49207 1 snd_hda_codec_conexant
snd_hda_intel 17753 0
snd_hda_controller 15077 1 snd_hda_intel
snd_hda_codec 61583 5 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_conexant,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
snd_hda_core 14102 5 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_conexant,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_controller
snd_pcm_oss 33172 0
snd_mixer_oss 11829 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_dummy 871 0
snd_pcm 67072 6 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller,snd_pcsp
iwlwifi 89941 0
snd_seq_oss 23405 0
cfg80211 207245 1 iwlwifi
snd_seq_midi 3934 0
snd_seq_midi_event 4348 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_rawmidi 14729 1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq 39522 6 snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_device 2380 4 snd_seq,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_timer 15496 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
e1000e 151063 0
ptp 8542 1 e1000e
pps_core 5428 1 ptp
snd 44671 14 snd_pcm_oss,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_codec_conexant,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_device,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcsp
i2c_i801 8971 0
soundcore 4163 1 snd
i915 854644 0
i2c_algo_bit 4476 1 i915
drm_kms_helper 82022 1 i915
drm 216704 2 i915,drm_kms_helper
hp_wmi 5638 0
rfkill 7937 3 cfg80211,hp_wmi,bluetooth
wmi 6647 1 hp_wmi
battery 10486 0
hp_accel 15674 0
lis3lv02d 9001 1 hp_accel
acpi_pad 3495 0
ac 3421 0
Update
From running dmesg I could see that there was a call for iwlwifi-8000C-13.ucode but there is no such file in /lib/firmware.
I found a copy of the file on the Intel website and loaded it into /lib/firmware. Tried to reboot with a save file but was told that no partition was available Then dropped to a terminal with the following and there it hangs
From running dmesg I could see that there was a call for iwlwifi-8000C-13.ucode but there is no such file in /lib/firmware.
I found a copy of the file on the Intel website and loaded it into /lib/firmware. Tried to reboot with a save file but was told that no partition was available Then dropped to a terminal with the following
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Starting X, specs in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, startup apps /root/ .xinitrc
lemmy999,
Xenialpup 7.0.3 has some bugs with wifi.
I basically had the same issues you have with hardware support.
Also others reporting wifi issues after update to Xenialpup 7.0.3
The download site has just posted Xenialpup 7.0.4
I just tried it and it works OK with my wifi hardware. No issues.
Suggest you try Xenial-7.0.4.iso
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/test/xenialpup/
Xenialpup 7.0.3 has some bugs with wifi.
I basically had the same issues you have with hardware support.
Also others reporting wifi issues after update to Xenialpup 7.0.3
The download site has just posted Xenialpup 7.0.4
I just tried it and it works OK with my wifi hardware. No issues.
Suggest you try Xenial-7.0.4.iso
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/test/xenialpup/
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
Updated to Xenialpup 7.0.4 using old save folder from xenialpup 7.0.1
Update seems to be working OK.
Wifi working OK with setup from old save file.
This does seem to be a good bug fix for my wifi hardware issues updating to Xenialpup 7.0.3
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 424#918424
Update seems to be working OK.
Wifi working OK with setup from old save file.
This does seem to be a good bug fix for my wifi hardware issues updating to Xenialpup 7.0.3
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 424#918424
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
he he ...beat me to it!bigpup wrote:Updated to Xenialpup 7.0.4 using old save folder from xenialpup 7.0.1
Update seems to be working OK.
Wifi working OK with setup from old save file.
This does seem to be a good bug fix for my wifi hardware issues updating to Xenialpup 7.0.3
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 424#918424
yes xenialpup 7.0.4 uploaded.
the kernel has been recompiled and more firmware added, hopefully it'll fix the various driver problems people have been having.
the kernel for xenialpup has been a propper headache, multiple times now i've been in the middle of uploading the iso and then suddenly discover massive problems on one of my available test computers.
swapped powerapplet-tray for qbat, as the former doesn't seem to work on some dell latitude laptops.
add libvdpau_va_gl
broken
samba/yassm is still broken ,,,, not looked at that yet.
some dbus error messages in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
Bionicpup64 built with bionic beaver packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114311
Xenialpup64, built with xenial xerus packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331
Xenialpup64, built with xenial xerus packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331
hi artsown,artsown wrote:Hah! Just tried 7.0.4 and no WiFi which I've had on earlier versions.
Art
from the xenial where your wireless works, can run menu>>system>>pup-sysinfo. click the 'Devices' tab then choose 'Network' this should show which kernel module it's using. i can then add it.
cheers
Bionicpup64 built with bionic beaver packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114311
Xenialpup64, built with xenial xerus packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331
Xenialpup64, built with xenial xerus packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331
Hi Phil. Here's my wireless info:
Network controller [0280]: Ralink corp. RT2500 Wireless 802.11bg [1814:0201] (rev 01)
• Kernel Driver: rt2500pci
• Memory Used: 13.50 KB
• Path: /lib/modules/4.1.30/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt2x00/rt2500pci.ko
• Description: Ralink RT2500 PCI & PCMCIA Wireless LAN driver.
• Driver Version: 2.3.0
Network controller [0280]: Ralink corp. RT2500 Wireless 802.11bg [1814:0201] (rev 01)
• Kernel Driver: rt2500pci
• Memory Used: 13.50 KB
• Path: /lib/modules/4.1.30/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt2x00/rt2500pci.ko
• Description: Ralink RT2500 PCI & PCMCIA Wireless LAN driver.
• Driver Version: 2.3.0
hi artsown,artsown wrote:Hi Phil. Here's my wireless info:
Network controller [0280]: Ralink corp. RT2500 Wireless 802.11bg [1814:0201] (rev 01)
• Kernel Driver: rt2500pci
• Memory Used: 13.50 KB
• Path: /lib/modules/4.1.30/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/rt2x00/rt2500pci.ko
• Description: Ralink RT2500 PCI & PCMCIA Wireless LAN driver.
• Driver Version: 2.3.0
rt2500pci.ko is in 7.0.4 and apparently doesn't require any firmware.
i've had some oddness using savefiles from 7.0.3 with the new iso, so try booting 7.0.4 without an old save if you've not done that already.
if that fails have a look through /var/log/messages for any clues... or attach a
Bionicpup64 built with bionic beaver packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114311
Xenialpup64, built with xenial xerus packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331
Xenialpup64, built with xenial xerus packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331
Phil,
I've tried 7.0.3 and 7.0.4 and in both cases there has been a problem with Palemoon. After a while, the swap partition starts to fill, although RAM usage is fine. Eventually the swap partition fills, and then CPU hits 100% and everything slows to a crawl. Closing Palemoon cures the problem.
This morning (using 703), I ran Seamonkey 2.20 (from mnt/home) and had no problems.
I've tried 7.0.3 and 7.0.4 and in both cases there has been a problem with Palemoon. After a while, the swap partition starts to fill, although RAM usage is fine. Eventually the swap partition fills, and then CPU hits 100% and everything slows to a crawl. Closing Palemoon cures the problem.
This morning (using 703), I ran Seamonkey 2.20 (from mnt/home) and had no problems.
Motherboard Vendor: Hewlett-Packard
Product Name: 099C
BIOS Vendor: Hewlett-Packard
Version: 68DTD Ver. F.14
Release Date: 07/27/2006
Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 2.00GHz
Max Speed: 2000 MHz
Current Speed of Core 0:798 MHz
Memory Allocation:
Total RAM: 2014 MB
Total Swap: 582 MB
Quick test,live pfix=ram. All basics working on initial boot.
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root# inxi -Fxx
System: Host: puppypc850 Kernel: 4.1.31 i686 (32 bit gcc: 5.4.0)
Desktop: JWM 2.3.5 dm: N/A Distro: xenialpup 7.0.4
Machine: Mobo: ASUSTeK model: M5A97 LE R2.0 v: Rev 1.xx serial: 150545593600028
Bios: American Megatrends v: 2601 date: 03/24/2015
CPU: Hexa core AMD FX-6300 Six-Core (-MCP-) cache: 12288 KB
flags: (lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm) bmips: 42140
clock speeds: min/max: 1400/3500 MHz 1: 1400 MHz
2: 1400 MHz 3: 3000 MHz 4: 1400 MHz 5: 1400 MHz
6: 2000 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GT218 [GeForce 210]
bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0a65
Display Server: X.org 1.18.3 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: vesa)
tty size: 70x23 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio: Card-1 NVIDIA High Definition Audio Controller
driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0be3
Card-2 Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
driver: snd_hda_intel bus-ID: 00:14.2 chip-ID: 1002:4383
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.1.31
Network: Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: d000
bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full
mac: 1c:87:2c:5a:bb:e2
Drives: HDD Total Size: 1120.2GB (5.2% used)
ID-1: /dev/sda model: KINGSTON_SV300S3 size: 120.0GB serial: N/A
ID-2: /dev/sdb model: WDC_WD10EZEX size: 1000.2GB serial: N/A
ID-1: swap-1 size: 8.60GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb5
RAID: System: supported: linear raid0 raid1 raid10 raid6 raid5 raid4
No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Unused Devices: none
Sensors: None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info: Processes: 155 Uptime: 6 min Memory: 218.3/16112.4MB
Init: SysVinit v: N/A runlevel: 5 Gcc sys: N/A
Client: Shell (bash 4.3.291 running in urxvt) inxi: 2.2.35
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root# free
total used free shared buffers cached
Mem: 16499092 917812 15581280 321808 103340 595640
-/+ buffers/cache: 218832 16280260
Swap: 8396796 0 8396796
root#
Keef,
Palemoon, are you using the latest version 26.4.0.1?
Palemoon, are you using the latest version 26.4.0.1?
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)