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Hello everyone,

I'm trying to increase my disk space on a 32GB USB drive.

I try to get the maximum as shown in the attached photos is 24576 GB.

But once I restart, I get the following message: performing a switch-root to the layered filesystem ...

I do not know what I can do?

Advice?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/s2t5j1l98868dmu/Pf.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/c4bgb4ez47mna ... 0.jpg?dl=0

You better not make such a big savefile!
Choose pupsave directory instead. It adapts its size as needed. Your partition has to be linux file system then (ext2/3/4, prefer 3).
Performing a switch-root is normal at boot, but because you made such a big pupsavefile it takes forever to finish.
Just delete your pupsavefile, restart and make a (new) pupsave directory.

BTW, you may never need so much space in the pupsave. There are possibilities to keep things outside the pupsave.
This may be a good start for some reading on it: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62110

Hello,

Is it necessary to format the USB key in ext3 before installing puppy linux?

Where to find pupsavefile?

Thank you

foxpup wrote:You better not make such a big savefile!
Choose pupsave directory instead. It adapts its size as needed. Your partition has to be linux file system then (ext2/3/4, prefer 3).
Performing a switch-root is normal at boot, but because you made such a big pupsavefile it takes forever to finish.
Just delete your pupsavefile, restart and make a (new) pupsave directory.

BTW, you may never need so much space in the pupsave. There are possibilities to keep things outside the pupsave.
This may be a good start for some reading on it: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62110

Other alternatives might be to move some stuff to the "A drive" or symbolically link (and/or bind) some stuff outside of the save file.

I agree though that a save folder would be the simplest easiest & safest option.

Guigui2018 wrote:Hello,

Is it necessary to format the USB key in ext3 before installing puppy linux?

Where to find pupsavefile?

Thank you

No it is not necessary to format usb in ext3 to install Puppy. But if you use a pupsave folder, it has to be on a ext2/3/4 partition. If you use a pupsave file it does not have to be on a ext2/3/4; it creates a ext2/3/4 itself.

If you boot without pupsave, on (first) shutdown Puppy offers you to use/make a pupsave.

Hi Guigui2018,

Basically agree with foxpup. But I prefer SaveFiles over SaveFolders. I've never had to have a SaveFile over 2 Gb (except for an experiment with Dragon Naturally Speaking in Wine which failed). In general I partition a USB-Key to have 2. 1st partition is Fat32 and holds the bootloader. 2nd Partition Linux Ext3 uses almost all available space. The size of the 1st partition can be as small as 100 mbs if it is only to hold the grub4dos bootloader. But if I want to use the USB-Key to transfer files between computers --Windows computers can't read Linux formatted partitions OOTB-- I'll increase the Fat32 partition.

Puppies' (or debiandogs') necessary files are placed in folders on the 2nd (Linux) partition. Grub4dos is then run and installed on 1st partition, automatically finding and creating a menu.lst of the Puppies located on 2nd partition. (Menu.lst hand edited to include listing of debiandogs, where applicable).

After booting into Puppy and creating a SaveFile, I reboot into it and open two Rox (or other file-manager) windows, one to /root and the other to /mnt/home. I then drag the /root/my-documents folder from /root to /mnt/home and select MOVE. Then drag it back and select Link(relative). Applications will then write directly to (and read from) the USB-Key rather than saving data to the SaveFile. Applications in the form of SFSes, or Program Folders, or AppImages are preferred to pets. Pets install to the SaveFile. The other formats can be anywhere, so are just on the partition. The only thing the SaveFile is used for is to preserve settings and hold applications which had to be installed. Still, the entire partition remains available for use.

For a complete explanation of the above and other suggestions for keeping SaveFile small and reducing dependence on RAM, see http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 066#974066.

mikesLr

Another way to keep save files small is to extensively use sfs versions of applications like is done in lazypup, T.OP.L.E.S.S and N.E.M.I.S.S.E.S.

What do you mean exactly, by "increase personal disk space" ? If you are
renting space on somebody's disk, IMHO you should negotiate with the
disk owner. If such is the case, strictly speaking, it is not a Puppy matter.

foxpup wrote:You better not make such a big savefile!
Choose pupsave directory instead. It adapts its size as needed. Your partition has to be linux file system then (ext2/3/4, prefer 3).
Performing a switch-root is normal at boot, but because you made such a big pupsavefile it takes forever to finish.
Just delete your pupsavefile, restart and make a (new) pupsave directory.

BTW, you may never need so much space in the pupsave. There are possibilities to keep things outside the pupsave.
This may be a good start for some reading on it: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62110

Hello,

Where to create a new pupsave directory?

mikeslr wrote:Hi Guigui2018,

Basically agree with foxpup. But I prefer SaveFiles over SaveFolders. I've never had to have a SaveFile over 2 Gb (except for an experiment with Dragon Naturally Speaking in Wine which failed). In general I partition a USB-Key to have 2. 1st partition is Fat32 and holds the bootloader. 2nd Partition Linux Ext3 uses almost all available space. The size of the 1st partition can be as small as 100 mbs if it is only to hold the grub4dos bootloader. But if I want to use the USB-Key to transfer files between computers --Windows computers can't read Linux formatted partitions OOTB-- I'll increase the Fat32 partition.

Puppies' (or debiandogs') necessary files are placed in folders on the 2nd (Linux) partition. Grub4dos is then run and installed on 1st partition, automatically finding and creating a menu.lst of the Puppies located on 2nd partition. (Menu.lst hand edited to include listing of debiandogs, where applicable).

After booting into Puppy and creating a SaveFile, I reboot into it and open two Rox (or other file-manager) windows, one to /root and the other to /mnt/home. I then drag the /root/my-documents folder from /root to /mnt/home and select MOVE. Then drag it back and select Link(relative). Applications will then write directly to (and read from) the USB-Key rather than saving data to the SaveFile. Applications in the form of SFSes, or Program Folders, or AppImages are preferred to pets. Pets install to the SaveFile. The other formats can be anywhere, so are just on the partition. The only thing the SaveFile is used for is to preserve settings and hold applications which had to be installed. Still, the entire partition remains available for use.

For a complete explanation of the above and other suggestions for keeping SaveFile small and reducing dependence on RAM, see http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 066#974066.

mikesLr

Hello,

I have a permissions problem when I drag files. How to cure it?

s243a wrote:

foxpup wrote:You better not make such a big savefile!
Choose pupsave directory instead. It adapts its size as needed. Your partition has to be linux file system then (ext2/3/4, prefer 3).
Performing a switch-root is normal at boot, but because you made such a big pupsavefile it takes forever to finish.
Just delete your pupsavefile, restart and make a (new) pupsave directory.

BTW, you may never need so much space in the pupsave. There are possibilities to keep things outside the pupsave.
This may be a good start for some reading on it: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62110

Other alternatives might be to move some stuff to the "A drive" or symbolically link (and/or bind) some stuff outside of the save file.

I agree though that a save folder would be the simplest easiest & safest option.

This is what I do -- drag all of the bloated crap out onto /mnt/home/, then symbolically link it all back (since /mnt/home/ is always going to be exactly there, I mount it absolute).

Some examples are ~/.cache/, all of my Thunderbird email folder, .mozilla, and .moonchild_xxx (Palemoon). These all tend to grow, so they can grow outside...

RetroTechGuy wrote:

s243a wrote:

foxpup wrote:You better not make such a big savefile!
Choose pupsave directory instead. It adapts its size as needed. Your partition has to be linux file system then (ext2/3/4, prefer 3).
Performing a switch-root is normal at boot, but because you made such a big pupsavefile it takes forever to finish.
Just delete your pupsavefile, restart and make a (new) pupsave directory.

BTW, you may never need so much space in the pupsave. There are possibilities to keep things outside the pupsave.
This may be a good start for some reading on it: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62110

Other alternatives might be to move some stuff to the "A drive" or symbolically link (and/or bind) some stuff outside of the save file.

I agree though that a save folder would be the simplest easiest & safest option.

This is what I do -- drag all of the bloated crap out onto /mnt/home/, then symbolically link it all back (since /mnt/home/ is always going to be exactly there, I mount it absolute).

Some examples are ~/.cache/, all of my Thunderbird email folder, .mozilla, and .moonchild_xxx (Palemoon). These all tend to grow, so they can grow outside...

Hello,

I have a permissions problem when I drag files. How to cure it?

Guigui2018 wrote:

RetroTechGuy wrote:

s243a wrote: Other alternatives might be to move some stuff to the "A drive" or symbolically link (and/or bind) some stuff outside of the save file.

I agree though that a save folder would be the simplest easiest & safest option.

This is what I do -- drag all of the bloated crap out onto /mnt/home/, then symbolically link it all back (since /mnt/home/ is always going to be exactly there, I mount it absolute).

Some examples are ~/.cache/, all of my Thunderbird email folder, .mozilla, and .moonchild_xxx (Palemoon). These all tend to grow, so they can grow outside...

Hello,

I have a permissions problem when I drag files. How to cure it?

We're goint to need more info:
1. What version of puppy are you running
2. What folder are you dragging into what folder
3. What are the file system types and how were they mouted
4. What mode are you running pup in
5. What meduim did you boot from
6. How did you create it
7. are you running as root, spot or fido
etc.

We're goint to need more info:
1. What version of puppy are you running
2. What folder are you dragging into what folder
3. What are the file system types and how were they mouted
4. What mode are you running pup in
5. What meduim did you boot from
6. How did you create it
7. are you running as root, spot or fido
etc.

1 xenialpup64 7.5
2 dropbox in /mnt/home
3 fat 32 and i don't now
4 the first after booting the key : xenialpup64
5 Sandisk Cruzer fit USB 2.0 32 GB
6 with unetbootin
7 root

Guigui2018 wrote:

2. What folder are you dragging into what folder

2 dropbox in /mnt/home

dropbox??? I do not understand.

foxpup wrote:

Guigui2018 wrote:

2. What folder are you dragging into what folder

2 dropbox in /mnt/home

dropbox??? I do not understand.

https://www.dropbox.com/

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m4eoatropernk ... 0.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lyqyxt8ng83sz ... e.jpg?dl=0

foxpup wrote:

Guigui2018 wrote:

2. What folder are you dragging into what folder

2 dropbox in /mnt/home

dropbox??? I do not understand.

The application loads the folders and files into the pupsavefile.

I am trying to move the dropbox folder to the pupsave directory.

https://www.dropbox.com/

https://www.dropbox.com/s/m4eoatropernk ... 0.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lyqyxt8ng83sz ... e.jpg?dl=0

When you first installed Dropbox from Quickpet.
Did you choose to run it as root or spot?

By that image you posted of Rox.
dropbox directory already is in the save.
It is in the root directory, which is in the save.

Only place it would not be in the save is if it was in /mnt/home

bigpup wrote:When you first installed Dropbox from Quickpet.
Did you choose to run it as root or spot?

By that image you posted of Rox.
dropbox directory already is in the save.
It is in the root directory, which is in the save.

Only place it would not be in the save is if it was in /mnt/home

As root

I'm trying to put it in / mnt / home and make a relative link.

I then have a permission problem.

What to do?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dfysx1eorxmqg ... 0.jpg?dl=0

first copy the folder from /root/ to /mnt/home
then delete it in /root/
then drag it from /mnt/home to /root/ and choose link (absolute)

Is that what you are doing?