How do I change my laptop's mac address while running Puppy 2.11?
Auto detect DHCP isn't working on my laptop, but it works fine on my Desktop Computer with a Comcast cable connection.
How to change MAC address? (Auto DHCP not working)
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Re: Mac address
It's not the mac address you want to change, it's the IP address you want to set manually if DHCP is not working...kievking wrote:How do I change my laptop's mac address while running Puppy 2.11?
Auto detect DHCP isn't working on my laptop, but it works fine on my Desktop Computer with a Comcast cable connection.
BUT I would make sure that your NIC is configured, AND working first!!!!!!
That could be your problem with the DHCP not working...
Bob
I manually entered the IP address, subnet mask and the gateway in the connection wizard, still no luck. I verified that my NIC works with other operating systems and Puppy indicates that my network connection setup was successful.
I was also unable to connect to the internet with windows and ubuntu until I cloned the mac address of my desktop computer. Apparently, Comcast only allows one mac address per modem, unless you pay for additional connections.
Thanks
I was also unable to connect to the internet with windows and ubuntu until I cloned the mac address of my desktop computer. Apparently, Comcast only allows one mac address per modem, unless you pay for additional connections.
Thanks
That's right. I suppose your ISP will say the MAC address is to prevent someone from tapping the line and stealing your service, but it may also encourage people to buy extra connections. Still, I bet if you call your ISP and ask nicely, they will allow you to use several MAC addresses. Or you could always buy a router and share the connection that way.
ifconfig is Busybox, but i think you can set the mac address using it ... something like:
ifconfig eth0 hw ether 01:02:03:04:05:06
to set the mac address to 01:02:03:04:05:06
the ifconfig command could probably be put at the end of rc.local in /etc/rc.d/ ... if necessary, it could be executed after a delay of say 5 seconds like this:
(sleep 5; ifconfig eth0 hw ether 01:02:03:04:05:06)&
see: http://whoozoo.co.uk/mac-spoof-linux.htm
ifconfig eth0 hw ether 01:02:03:04:05:06
to set the mac address to 01:02:03:04:05:06
the ifconfig command could probably be put at the end of rc.local in /etc/rc.d/ ... if necessary, it could be executed after a delay of say 5 seconds like this:
(sleep 5; ifconfig eth0 hw ether 01:02:03:04:05:06)&
see: http://whoozoo.co.uk/mac-spoof-linux.htm
ifconfig (and many other utility programs) is replaced in Puppy by Busybox
you can run busybox directly, like this:
busybox ls
busybox ln
busybox kill
but you do not need to ... all you have to do is type the name of the program, like this:
ls
ln
kill
etc etc etc
ls ln and kill are just symlinks to busybox, they are not the "real" "full" versions of those programs
and there are many other programs that have been replaced by busybox, including ifconfig ... the reason that this is important, is because the busybox replacements for the real versions of the programs can not do everything that the real programs can do
in this case, i think Busybox's ifconfig CAN set the mac address
in which case, you would type what i said to type:
ifconfig eth0 hw ether 01:02:03:04:05:06
you could run busybox directly, like this:
busybox ifconfig eth0 hw ether 01:02:03:04:05:06
but there is no point in doing this
what you did will NOT work:
busybox ifdown eth0
this is not the correct syntax for using Busybox
this WILL work:
ifconfig ifdown eth0
you can run busybox directly, like this:
busybox ls
busybox ln
busybox kill
but you do not need to ... all you have to do is type the name of the program, like this:
ls
ln
kill
etc etc etc
ls ln and kill are just symlinks to busybox, they are not the "real" "full" versions of those programs
and there are many other programs that have been replaced by busybox, including ifconfig ... the reason that this is important, is because the busybox replacements for the real versions of the programs can not do everything that the real programs can do
in this case, i think Busybox's ifconfig CAN set the mac address
in which case, you would type what i said to type:
ifconfig eth0 hw ether 01:02:03:04:05:06
you could run busybox directly, like this:
busybox ifconfig eth0 hw ether 01:02:03:04:05:06
but there is no point in doing this
what you did will NOT work:
busybox ifdown eth0
this is not the correct syntax for using Busybox
this WILL work:
ifconfig ifdown eth0
I contacted my ISP(Comcast) last week and asked if I could purchase a router from them without paying $150 for the professional installation. They said no. So, I purchased a generic router but I was unable to change it's mac address. I decided to just connect and disconnect the laptop from the cable modem since I have no intentions of using both computers at the same time anyway. I contacted Comcast again , explained my situation and got the same reply. Apparently, if I don't agree to pay for the installation, they will not provide assistance.Flash wrote:That's right. I suppose your ISP will say the MAC address is to prevent someone from tapping the line and stealing your service, but it may also encourage people to buy extra connections. Still, I bet if you call your ISP and ask nicely, they will allow you to use several MAC addresses. Or you could always buy a router and share the connection that way.
So, I successfully changed my laptop's mac address while running ubuntu. I'm still confused though, I don't understand why I have to change the mac address for each operating system? I must be doing something wrong??
Thanks, those commands worked fine on my desktop computer. Now, hopefully I'll get Puppy connected to the internet on my laptop.GuestToo wrote:ifconfig (and many other utility programs) is replaced in Puppy by Busybox
you could run busybox directly, like this:
busybox ifconfig eth0 hw ether 01:02:03:04:05:06
but there is no point in doing this
what you did will NOT work:
busybox ifdown eth0
this is not the correct syntax for using Busybox
this WILL work:
ifconfig ifdown eth0
It's my understanding that the whole point of the MAC address is that it is built into the hardware, so I don't see how it's possible for the OS to change it. My guess is, the ability of the OS to change a MAC address is probably an "undocumented feature" of the implementation of the MAC address idea.kievking wrote:....I don't understand why I have to change the mac address for each operating system? I must be doing something wrong??
As to why you have to change the address for each OS, I suppose that either an OS can tell the card to return an arbitrary MAC address only while that OS is in active control, or the OS itself can answer for the card when the card is queried.the MAC address is like a serial number, that is built into an ethernet card or router ... some isps check the serial number to be sure it's really you trying to connect
you might be able to change the number on some ethernet cards ... you can change some of the settings on some cards, other cards you can't
ifconfig can set what MAC number is reported when another computer on the network asks for the MAC address ... it does not really change the number in the card, it just supplies the number that you tell it to supply
the easiest way to connect 1 or more computers is usually with a hardware router ... the router connects to the isp automatically when it is turned on ... all you have to do to connect a computer to the internet is to plug it into the jack (and run the DHCP wizard if you haven't already)
the router will have a MAC address ... usually there will be a way to configure it so it will have the MAC address that you used when you signed up with the isp ... or you can tell the isp that you changed your hardware and tell them your new MAC address
you might be able to change the number on some ethernet cards ... you can change some of the settings on some cards, other cards you can't
ifconfig can set what MAC number is reported when another computer on the network asks for the MAC address ... it does not really change the number in the card, it just supplies the number that you tell it to supply
the easiest way to connect 1 or more computers is usually with a hardware router ... the router connects to the isp automatically when it is turned on ... all you have to do to connect a computer to the internet is to plug it into the jack (and run the DHCP wizard if you haven't already)
the router will have a MAC address ... usually there will be a way to configure it so it will have the MAC address that you used when you signed up with the isp ... or you can tell the isp that you changed your hardware and tell them your new MAC address
Flash is correct on the MAC. The whole point is for a unique hardware ID. What I am not sure of is how you are trying to connect to Comcast. You may need to set your router to auto-dhcp so it will give you a local ip address and translate it to the one given out by Comcast. Then the cable box sees only one MAC address, that of the router.
cplater and Guestoo are quite correct - the normal way to connect many PCs to a cable modem is to insert a router-AP between the modem and the hardwired (ethernet) PC then spoof this PC's MAC# onto the router.
Get your router to provide local IP addresses.
Connect all your inhouse PCs to the router (ethernet/wifi) and set them up to obtain their IPs from the router and you're good to go.
Other router security considerations like firewall, wifi WEP/WPA encryption are fully described/explained in the router documentation.
Good luck -
Get your router to provide local IP addresses.
Connect all your inhouse PCs to the router (ethernet/wifi) and set them up to obtain their IPs from the router and you're good to go.
Other router security considerations like firewall, wifi WEP/WPA encryption are fully described/explained in the router documentation.
Good luck -
I successfully created a script to connect to the internet after Puppy boots, but the commands you suggested do not work during the boot process. I think the info at the website is Redhat specific.GuestToo wrote:
the ifconfig command could probably be put at the end of rc.local in /etc/rc.d/ ... if necessary, it could be executed after a delay of say 5 seconds like this:
(sleep 5; ifconfig eth0 hw ether 01:02:03:04:05:06)&
see: http://whoozoo.co.uk/mac-spoof-linux.htm
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Guest
I know how you feel about Commycast,, BUT they are out to make money too.kievking wrote:I successfully created a script to connect to the internet after Puppy boots, but the commands you suggested do not work during the boot process. I think the info at the website is Redhat specific.GuestToo wrote:
the ifconfig command could probably be put at the end of rc.local in /etc/rc.d/ ... if necessary, it could be executed after a delay of say 5 seconds like this:
(sleep 5; ifconfig eth0 hw ether 01:02:03:04:05:06)&
see: http://whoozoo.co.uk/mac-spoof-linux.htm
I would be more than happy to help you set up your router so you can share your internet on the home lan...
I have a DSL--Dlink Dl-604 setup to a hybrid lan thats a split 10/100, 10/100/1000 switches, with 2 servers, and a few workstations, all use the same internet IP from my ISP...
Bob
Thanks, maybe I'll buy one eventually.FBrands wrote:
I would be more than happy to help you set up your router so you can share your internet on the home lan...
I have a DSL--Dlink Dl-604 setup to a hybrid lan thats a split 10/100, 10/100/1000 switches, with 2 servers, and a few workstations, all use the same internet IP from my ISP...
Bob
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