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What kind of Linux is Puppy?

Posted: Thu 26 Oct 2006, 18:08
by dare27
Hello all

From what I have read I think puppy os is cool, but I had 1 question. The may be stupid but is puppyOs a standard linux os configured to run in memory/ (some features turned off), a special linux kernel. or what?

Posted: Thu 26 Oct 2006, 20:21
by rarsa
As many other distributions, Puppy OS is an operating system based on the linux kernel.

The kernel is almost as vanilla as it can get. It only has one patch applied.

If you understand what is a distribution you will understand what is Puppy.

http://rarsa.blogspot.com/2006/04/whats ... -most.html

Posted: Thu 26 Oct 2006, 22:56
by Gn2
configured to run in memory/ (some features turned off), a special linux kernal
All of above & more :
I don't know where you found/downloaded Puppy - - but the home page of the developer pretty much explains all -

http://www.puppyos.com/
That page hot-links to mirrors as well as other resources -
"spin-offs" (user donated variants)

If you explore - it also links to in-depth information of what is included for major Apps -as well as how PUPPY differs from
mainstream distros
And the benefits of runing all in live-mode - fully in Ram

If settings are not saved back to hard drive - or the hard drive not accessed during use ;
NOTHING else gets touched - once computer is shut down
the only thing lingering - hopefully is pleasant memories

The rest - use & enjoy = takes time to live with anything new , to get to know better, fully appreciate .

Are you a penguin?

Posted: Fri 27 Oct 2006, 03:33
by Lobster
Bow Wow is the the unofficial language of Puppy

Good will in puppy - "Puppytude" - is contagious
This forum and the community is sometimes known as "the kennels"
Puppy Masters (Barry, GuestToo and Mark) are now know as "senior developers"

woof woof = approval
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/BowWow

Dummys Guide
http://tmxxine.com/Wikka/wikka.php?wakka=PuppyLinux

Posted: Fri 27 Oct 2006, 18:39
by Béèm
Several times, when wanting to download an application, I had to choose between/based on: Fedora, Debian, Mandrake, xxx, yyy etc, but never I saw Puppy mentioned. In such cases which one should I choose?

Posted: Fri 27 Oct 2006, 19:49
by Pizzasgood
There's no easy answer. I've used Slackware, Mandrake, and Debian packages both successfully and unsuccessfully. There is a Debian installer floating around. There are also "undeb" and "unrpm" packages on the wiki. I generally take a .tar.gz or .tgz when I can, because I can type "tar -zxf *" very fast. Typing "unrpm *" is also easy, but my hands aren't as used to that particular sequence.

Basically, just go with whichever package format you prefer and which you've had good luck with.

Seeing a .pup alongside a .deb and .rpm at, say, ATI's driver page would make my day. And MU's too I bet :lol:

Posted: Fri 27 Oct 2006, 21:26
by Béèm
So if I understand you well, Puppy is an outsider. :wink:
With unrpm I haven't been lucky yet. Undeb has worked for me as well as tar.gz.
I asked the question as somtimes there is a choice of up to 4 downloads possible and I'd like to have the best one directly.

Thanks anyway.

Posted: Fri 27 Oct 2006, 22:13
by MU
If possible, I use tar.gz from Slackware.
Use gslapt:
http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?t=11929

Small programs I sometimes compile on my own.

undeb works well usually, but often Debian-packages (especially for Ubuntu) have more dependencies than those from slackware (as Ubuntu is based on Gnome, but Slackware has Gnome only as an inofficial addon).

If all this fails, I try unrpm.
But for most modern RPMs, you need to upgrade unrpm with the library from RPM 4.2.
http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?t=2584

Also RPM-packages might depend on different library-versions than those available in Puppy, as I made several library-dotpups from Debian stable.
So you should use unrpm only as last solution.

Mark

Posted: Fri 27 Oct 2006, 22:38
by Béèm
Thank you for reminding me that I have to download gslapt.pup still.
Mostly I encounter this situation to choose, when I find a package directly on the website of the developer and tey aren't in a repository. So I'll follow the proposed sequence.

Posted: Fri 27 Oct 2006, 23:01
by MU
For small libraries I use almost only debian.

Simple reason:
the excellent online search:
http://packages.debian.org

Use the search at very bottom, enter a part of the library name (better the full like libtermcap.so)
If you use the full name, use the first of the 3 radiobuttons, if you know just a part of the name, the other ones.

Slackware I use for big programs because of the low dependency-requirements.

Mark

Can I take a guess to?

Posted: Sat 28 Oct 2006, 18:24
by willhunt
stackable union filesystem....... I puzzle this myself I'm sure puppy is linux!
but unlike other flavors I think puppy Really brings some changes to the
"Linux Box"

Puppy Pedigree

Posted: Sun 29 Oct 2006, 14:12
by davec51
"The may be stupid but is puppyOs a standard linux os configured to run in memory/ (some features turned off), a special linux kernel. or what?"
Then the question is, Does Puppy have AKC papers, or is he really just a mutt?

Posted: Sun 29 Oct 2006, 15:13
by vern72023
"just a mutt"
Mutt are generally healthier, more robust, more adaptable, less neurotic and longer lived than AKC "pure" breds.
so that is a compliment

:-)

Posted: Sun 29 Oct 2006, 15:50
by davec51
vern72023 wrote:"just a mutt"
Mutt are generally healthier, more robust, more adaptable, less neurotic and longer lived than AKC "pure" breds.
so that is a compliment

:-)
A compliment was intended. I happen to be a mutt myself.