(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

it would improve security for puppy.

I personally hate with a passion, login in screens, I like a pc that i can push the power button walk over to the remote and change a channel on the tv , then walk back to a pc and boom the desktop, nothing more nerve wrecking then passwords in your own house for the use of a pc. really online bank accounts, emails, etc have passwords for a reason, theft, but if you really want a password for puppy, I would hunt around on #grub and find a script to put into your bootloader for a password and also i would turn off your seek cd, or usb, or floppy on your bios and only have boot from harddrive, then i would password protect your bios, which comes with all bios's. That is security, you see puppy being a live cd, you could password your puppy on boot, but if someone really wanted to look at your stuff, they would just insert a live cd and boot off cd. Then they can bypass password and boom, look over and run everything you have.
my way how i described would protect your pc way better, At home i have a live xp cd and i can go into any file or folder on any password protected xp, the best way is protect yourself right at the boot level, There are also programs that hide folders and files and you have to hit a combination of keys to bring up the hidden application, but thats on xp, i haven't heard of it on Linux. If anyone decides that a logon screen is a good idea , please make it possible to turn it off, thanks for your time

ttuuxxx wrote:I personally hate with a passion, login in screens, I like a pc that i can push the power button walk over to the remote and change a channel on the tv , then walk back to a pc and boom the desktop, nothing more nerve wrecking then passwords in your own house for the use of a pc. really online bank accounts, emails, etc have passwords for a reason, theft, but if you really want a password for puppy, I would hunt around on #grub and find a script to put into your bootloader for a password and also i would turn off your seek cd, or usb, or floppy on your bios and only have boot from harddrive, then i would password protect your bios, which comes with all bios's. That is security, you see puppy being a live cd, you could password your puppy on boot, but if someone really wanted to look at your stuff, they would just insert a live cd and boot off cd. Then they can bypass password and boom, look over and run everything you have.
my way how i described would protect your pc way better, At home i have a live xp cd and i can go into any file or folder on any password protected xp, the best way is protect yourself right at the boot level, There are also programs that hide folders and files and you have to hit a combination of keys to bring up the hidden application, but thats on xp, i haven't heard of it on Linux. If anyone decides that a logon screen is a good idea , please make it possible to turn it off, thanks for your time

What you're saying about security is very true. Login screens don't really help security wise, the only use i see for them is a nice way of having multiple desktops, so you can choose when you boot up where you want to go.

Anyway, I wouldn't mind a nice login screen for puppy, but it should be optional, as it's not something everyone would want.

What I really want to see in puppy is a nice bootsplash, again still optional,
but it's just alot nicer than the current boot sequence in my opinion.

I don't like Grafpup's use of Xfce. So if a Puplet had a login manager should it be Entrance, SLiM or another?

ttuuxxx wrote: I personally hate with a passion, login in screens, I like a pc that i can push the power button walk over to the remote and change a channel on the tv , then walk back to a pc and boom the desktop, nothing more nerve wrecking then passwords in your own house for the use of a pc. really online bank accounts, emails, etc have passwords for a reason, theft, but if you really want a password for puppy,
(snip)

i agree with ttuuxxx here and beyond my snip almost totally.

angularspoon wrote: the only use i see for them is a nice way of having multiple desktops, so you can choose when you boot up where you want to go.

there is the point.

ttuuxxx wrote: There are also programs that hide folders and files and you have to hit a combination of keys to bring up the hidden application, but thats on xp, i haven't heard of it on Linux.

i'm pretty sure that there are linux file encryption apps out there someplace

angularspoon wrote: Anyway, I wouldn't mind a nice login screen for puppy, but it should be optional, as it's not something everyone would want.

options are usually opt-in, or opt-out, i would like to see it as an opt-in, where if i ever see anything about it it would be during the setup process a question asking if i wish to have a login screen.

if your using grub to boot, you can use that as a substitute to a login screen

truecrypt for linux encrypts files http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=22492

bobwrit wrote:it would improve security for puppy.

If you're simply looking for a way to keep the casual computer user, family member or visitor from accessing your browser's bookmarks, sites visited history, downloads history or, ahem ... video directory, here's a cheap and easy way to throw up a roadblock:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... fb9491a62a

However, remember how easy it is to boot from a Puppy CD and access existing files on a HD? Without serious encryption, anyone with quite run-of-the-mill tools and a wee bit of experience, and who is Hell bent on getting into your system will get into your system.

Before my friend Flash chimes in, running from a removable, multi-session disk is an attractive alternative for the security conscious and/or paranoid.