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Hey All,

I just installed puppy 4 on my toshiba portege 7020ct laptop it runs great, but I can't get the internet working. My family has a optimum online cable modem. I plug it in and attempt to configure the LAN. First I test eth0, which is successful. Then I click on dhcp for auto-detect. This is also reported successfully. Blinky then comes up and I see that a few packets have been received and some sent. However, if I try to browse or connect to the network i don't get a thing. I tried manually assigning dns to open dns, but still nothing.

Ok, I just tried to setting it up via the command line and got some errors. When I issue the command: dhcpcd eth0

I get the following error:

Error, eth0: timed out

warning, eth0: using IPV4LL address 169.254.14.220

Hi Rubing,

I'm sure someone more experienced will come along with a simple and capable solution soon enough, in the meantime......

A suggestion at the bottom of this one was to use the alternative dingo, you may want to give that a try :

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... a3847ef34d

It generally seems to be wireless connection which is the problem rather than RJ45 cable problems. Is your network card on-board or via a PCMCIA/cardbus card ? I seem to remember a few weeks ago someone had a problem with a toshiba using a PCMCIA/Cardbus card - it was necessary to enable cardbus in the BIOS before it would work.

Searching the forum can initially be a bit confusing, you could try the alternative search which may prove a bit more productive :

http://wellminded.com/puppy/pupsearch.html

Good luck ! Adam.

Adam,

thank ye gods for answering me....i was starting to feel like such a lonely puppy.


It's allright though I solved my problem. It wasn't really my problem or puppy's problem. It was the problem of the EVIL CORPORATION that's providing me cable service!!!!! Those foul evil motherfers at Optimum Online only want you to have 1 IP address, so fix it to your hardware address.

So, I solved everything just by resetting the modem and replugging it in.

Thank you comrade for the suggestion. I will look into it anyways. I don't know if I like this default network manager. The one that came with Ubuntu seemed a lot cooler. Anyways, puppy is so friggin fast I am happy...I can't believe this old piece of crap laptop is working so good. thank ye gods!

If you set up a router, you can run multiple PC's.
All your ISP will see is the router.
The router will assign your PC's their own ip addresses.


I hope this helps.

Yes. you anticipated my next question. smart man! sorry no prizes

I just tried out Puppy 4 for the first time, and had the same issue: network reported as good, but can't obtain an IP address from the DHCP auto-detect. At first I thought rubing's diagnosis would be correct for my case too - evil Qwest limiting my IP addresses, but I have Windows XP Pro installed on the hard drive of the machine I'm trying Puppy on and it has no problem connecting when booting to XP. Any ideas?

Besides the network connection issue, Puppy blows me away.

Do you get an IP address? DNS? Gateway?

What happens when you type ifconfig in terminal?

I'm not sure how to know if I obtained an IP address...(sorry, I'm a noob). I did an ipconfig in XP to see what IP address had been assigned, and tried entering that under "set static IP" in Puppy, but it still didn't work.

When I run ifconfig, here's the response:

Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

I have problem with loosing connection too. All looks normal but it fail to connect.
So could you who knows works around or ways to test things.

ifconfig looks ok. What else could one do.

Do you have more than one NIC?

If you do you might have the wrong one configured.


Just a thought.


I hope this helps.

n8p: it does not look like you have an network interface (e.g eth0) that has been assigned an IP. When you go to configure your network via the GUI what is the interface listed as???

try typing:

ifconfig <interface> up
dhcpcd

nooby,

so you are saying that you have a connection that stops working??

ezeze5000: I have only one nic, a D-Link 10/100. I obviously may not have it configured correctly though.

rubing: using the GUI, Puppy tells me it found eth0, and says it found an active network on that interface, but then I get nothing when trying to get an IP address. I'm at work right now, so I'll try the ifconfig suggestion when I arrive home.

thanks,
-nate

Got the T-shirt. With Puppy, when the NIC is recognised, driver appears to load, signs on but fails to connect to the Net, the only solution for this mere user has been to change the NIC, or, in extremis, change the distro. This can be yet another difficulty with laptops! Some versions had given such spurious results with certain Tulip, VIA and RTL80xx cards, but most now work with latest releases thanks to some fiddling by The Maestro.
Frankly, code-twiddling isn't my forte, so unless there's an explicit and easy fix, it's cheaper, quicker and less taxing of the little grey cells to find an HW solution, as suggested by ezeze5000. For PCI slots on a desktop, a Realtek NIC can be had new for less than a fiver or by the bucket-load from old abandoned junked boxes.

I finally got it back so I don't dare to do the whole thing you suggested
cause if mine is up at last to tell it to get up when it is already up sounds
kind of moot? Could set up nasty things. So I did this part

ifconfig eth0 which is a marvell yukon ethernet card built in to the mobo.


All looked ok as always. It looks ok even when it fails that is the tricky part.
Had it changed then I had something to go on but when all look ok but it fails.

Sure the wizard do ask if I give up cause this attempt was not successful
that is kind of helpful but not enlighening on where to look.

I somethimes thinks it is something at the isp end that sense my
frequent change of OS and many start ups as hacking attempts.
They don't have fantasy to realize I test different distros.

Or could it be that the irq or something that owns the ehternet card
even after powerdown. The power down don't take away all power
to the motherboard. There are leds showing some parts are still
powered. Maybe I should test to pull the plug next time?


So next time I loose IP I will do
ifconfig <interface> up
dhcpcd

This part <interface> I had to look up. It is eth0 here.

rubing: i gave ifconfig a shot, and it spat back with "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Driver or resource busy".

I should mention I initially started out with a different NIC card and had the same results. It was a 3Com 10/100 if that makes any difference.

All too familiar - had the S...FLAGS, too. Another card change? What is the 3COM chipset?

Sage: looks like Lucent. I may just pop in a third card. Can anyone suggest a card that is proven to play nice with the Puppy? Maybe this one - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6833156139?

Most ubiquitous, most reliable, cheapest are the RTL81xx series. NewEgg? American? Try to inculcate your fellow citizens in dumpster diving. $$$ = bad, recycle = good; old NICs (I like that one!) are dumped by the dozen. Open a few junked cases. Everything being dumped from a commercial office will contain a NIC. They rarely fail. Got some old Ungermann-Bass here!

Haha, thanks Sage - preach it brother. Believe me when I say, I'm a recycle first kinda guy...in fact the computer we're discussing is a Frankenstein of old parts people threw in the trash at work and parts I had laying around in my garage. I'll try to fight the urge to spend more cash on a new one. I'll let you know how it goes.