Browserpuppy 4.7 (63 Mb)

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puppymartin · #1 Post by **puppymartin** » Wed 13 May 2009, 20:51

NEW VERSION Go to:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=58960

Browserpuppy, a small Puplet for surfing the web.
Download at: http://www.browserpuppy.com/

Lobster · #2 Post by **Lobster** » Wed 13 May 2009, 21:18

Puppymartin is very nervous to announce his first Puplet:

Why nervous? The idea is good. I spend 90% of my online time in a browser

Website is good and supporting the Eeepc, a netbook, good too.

Be interested how others get on.

I tend to prefer all the icons and the other programs such as Seamonkey. I always find I need the things that are left out.
So it is not for me but it sounds ideal for some?

Good luck

aragon · #3 Post by **aragon** » Thu 14 May 2009, 08:10

@ puppymartin

good idea but i wonder why both versions are so 'big'. if you remove all office/printing/scanning/... you have to save more than 9 MB??? How did you build it?

- removing things by hand?
- remax?

aragon

puppymartin · #4 Post by **puppymartin** » Thu 14 May 2009, 18:25

Yes, maybe to big. I am trying te get them smaller.

Barebone 4.1.2 is 57 Mb
Firefox + Flash 10 = 13 Mb
Total: 70 Mb
But Browserpuppy 4.1.2 is 80 Mb (with Remaster LiveCD)

aragon · #5 Post by **aragon** » Thu 14 May 2009, 19:36

did you use a save-file? did you browse with your pup before remastering?

aragon

puppymartin · #6 Post by **puppymartin** » Thu 14 May 2009, 20:00

aragon wrote:did you use a save-file? did you browse with your pup before remastering?

aragon

Yes, to test a little. But cleared the history.

aragon · #7 Post by **aragon** » Thu 14 May 2009, 20:15

ok as you've tested it now, don't do it again

try to rebuild without running the browser as it blows up your save-file. you could test it by running your new browser-puppy with pfix=ram don't use the browser and look at the size of /root/.mozilla/firefox.

aragon

dejan555 · #8 Post by **dejan555** » Thu 14 May 2009, 20:35

aragon, barebones puppy is already 59 MB I think + browser installed and whatever else I'd say it can be that big, the fact is that barebone puppy could be made smaller and not the browser profile folder, that's my opinion...

technosaurus · #9 Post by **technosaurus** » Thu 14 May 2009, 22:43

somehow PUD got it down to bus card size including mplayer and an XUL based GUI... last time I tried to get it the bandwidth had been exceeded

http://penkia.blogspot.com/2009/04/xpud ... sktop.html

puppyiso · #10 Post by **puppyiso** » Fri 15 May 2009, 00:20

Hello, puppymartin

The size is still an issue but

Yours is very clean. I feel like I am the only guy driving I95 entering Florida. Was it 16 lane?

Tired of street driving(just imagine you are driving in Manhattan..),

I have complained that there are too many menu items. Just how many calculators do we need? Just how many word processors do we need?

I did try Pmenu, Pet-be-gone but some items are so resilient I never be able to remove them.

Your menu is so "clean" The black and gray atmosphere is also great.
My only suggestion is that the browser puppy letter will look better if make it a little smaller as shown below. (Stricktly personal view)

As the original APPLE II manual says on the cover, "Simplicity is the ULTIMATE sophistication" I have kept the words for nearly 30 years.

Great work.

John S

aragon · #11 Post by **aragon** » Fri 15 May 2009, 08:09

dejan555 wrote:aragon, barebones puppy is already 59 MB I think + browser installed and whatever else I'd say it can be that big, the fact is that barebone puppy could be made smaller and not the browser profile folder, that's my opinion...

yes and no. firefox has the sickness to have a large profile.

barebone 4.12 is allready a very good cut-down (my opinion). with 'normal' approach you can't gain more than ev. 6-7 mb. to gain more, you'll have to use xvesa-only, delete unneeded kernel-modules....

To see what's possible, you might look at 'White Fang': http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=32519

BUT:
I don't know if this is worth the effort. My post has been a little 'snapshot' backwards looking... and our discussion is hijacking this thread.

@puppymartin
Please forget my post. 80 mb is ok, don't agonize your brain to squeeze out some mb's.

aragon

puppymartin · #12 Post by **puppymartin** » Fri 15 May 2009, 15:17

aragon wrote: Please forget my post. 80 mb is ok, don't agonize your brain to squeeze out some mb's.

Today I cut of 0,5 MB... Not enough for an upgrade I think

When ROX shows the '79' I'm happy.

puppyiso · #13 Post by **puppyiso** » Fri 15 May 2009, 15:36

puppymartin,

Any chance to replace the browser with lighter one?

Like seamonkey instead?

You can save some more MBs.

And have you looked at the suggested wallpaper?

Just curious.

John

darrelljon · #14 Post by **darrelljon** » Fri 15 May 2009, 18:15

Well done for creating your first Puplet.

puppymartin · #15 Post by **puppymartin** » Sat 16 May 2009, 10:14

New version!

puppyiso wrote:puppymartin,

Any chance to replace the browser with lighter one?
Like seamonkey instead?

And have you looked at the suggested wallpaper?

Yes, the Wallpaper was nice, but I keep it centered. I think it is the only way to keep the text on wide screens good.

I use Firefox because Seamonkey and full screen Youtube didn' t work.

hartiberlin · #16 Post by **hartiberlin** » Thu 21 May 2009, 16:29

Hi All,

I have now tested Browserpuppy

and Browserpuppy Plus

as a Frugal install on my harddisk on a
WinXP machine with FAT32 disk drive.
This is a P3 Pentium 733 Mhz machine with just
384 Mbytes of memory.

Well, the first time I started it up,
there was no sound on Browserpuppy
and I had to save the pup_save file and
reboot and only then I have sound.
I am just testing with youtube videos.

Now I am using the small Browserpuppy
installation, cause it works.

I also tested the PLUS version, but this
does crash this machine.
Firefox does not start.

Does it need more RAM for the
Frugal method ( Grub loader, which loads
the vmlinuz and initrd.gz kernal) ?

Well and the Firefox browser is unfortunately
not the real current 3.0.10 Firefox browser
but a Bon Echo version, which is only based on
Firefox 2.x version...

Hmm...

So is there any Puplet, which just has
a real Firefox 3.0.10 browser with
the newest Adobe Flash plugin and
boots as fast as Xandros Presto ?

Presto is really amazingly fast booting and really works
nicely out of the box and does
not need any hacking and shell editor
typing and insider linux stuff, but I am looking for
a real open source version, not for some payware....

So is there any Puplet that is close to Xandros Presto ?

Many thanks in advance.

Regards, Stefan.

dratner · #17 Post by **dratner** » Thu 21 May 2009, 17:36

Thanks you for this puplet. It is exactly what I need and what I was looking for.

I enjoy the fact that it is extremely slimmed down and only with the browser.

I was able to install it to the HD on my Dell Vostro with just a few hardware tweaks to make it work (Nvidia driver, Broadcom driver).

My only complaint is that the flash seems to be kind of jerky. I don't know if this is an issue with puppy (don't think so), Bon Echo (probably) or the install of flash itself. I am not familiar enough with Puppy to know the reason but I notice that very few of the Puppy flavors actually run Firefox 3. Is there some reason for this BESIDES the size?

I have run several other flavors of Linux on this laptop including regular Puppy with Seamonkey without this jerkyness so I am not sure why its showing up here. The jerkyness was definitely worse before the Nvidia driver.

Let me know if there is anything I can do to help you debug this issue. Thanks again for your work.

-Dan

puppymartin · #18 Post by **puppymartin** » Thu 21 May 2009, 22:49

dratner wrote: I have run several other flavors of Linux on this laptop including regular Puppy with Seamonkey without this jerkyness

-Dan

I made a new version with Seamonkey (1.1.14, no mail, no news) by ttuuxxx.
It's now 77 Mb. I hope it is jerkyness free

hartiberlin · #19 Post by **hartiberlin** » Fri 22 May 2009, 00:51

Great news !

But why dont you use FireFox 3.0.10 ?

I really want to be compatible with what I use under Windows XP.

Also how can we get this thing to boot in15 seconds like
Xandros Presto ?

Any ideas ?

Many thanks in advance.

Regards, Stefan.

earlytv · #20 Post by **earlytv** » Fri 22 May 2009, 03:52

I like the idea but you didnt use 4.1.2 retro?
On my old systems, puppy starting with ver 4 needs to be retro or I get the same crash at boot,

"searching for puppy files in computer disk drives
pup_412.sfs not found
droping out to initial ram disk console
/bin/sh: cant access tty: job control turned off"

and here it sits forever?
I have tried all the puppy pfix= lines and cant find any that work?

If I take same CD and boot on a newer system it boots and dont get the above garbage?

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Browserpuppy 4.7 (63 Mb)

Browserpuppy 4.7 (63 Mb)

Love to see this puppy