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Puppy 4.21 Barebones

Posted: Wed 24 Jun 2009, 08:17
by aragon
Puppy 4.21 Barebones is a stripped down 4.21. It is build with unleashed. It gives you a running base-system (incl. Xorg/xvesa + alsa) but not more. It is just a base to build puplets on.

Due to the barebones-build, many actions will not work (because of the missing apps).

Download: http://puppylinux.ca/tpp/aragon/421bb/
Size: ~ 52 mb

Attached is a file with all included packages.

I tested it on 3 systems (1 desktop, 2 laptops) and it seems to run stable. Both wireless and wired network are working.

Note: Start with pfix=ram to not pick-up an existing save-file.

aragon

Posted: Wed 24 Jun 2009, 08:50
by Lobster
Excellent Aragon :)

Many will be happy.
Am I right it comes with no browser?
You could connect and then use the package manager to add a browser.
m m m this plus Puppy Browser would need extra libraries - but the big dog browsers would work.

This would seem the ideal for a 64 MB system.
Be very interesting how this is used :)

Posted: Wed 24 Jun 2009, 09:28
by aragon
hi lobster, you're right no browser.
and package-manager is working.

if it's ok for an 64 mb system... well you need to test.

good luck
aragon

Posted: Wed 24 Jun 2009, 10:35
by aragon
hi lobster,

you might want to test the attached dillo.

known issues:
- ssl enabled, but does not work on the pages i've tested.
- download-plugin uses the php-link as filename e.g. in this forum. you need to type the correct name by hand.

the dillo is statically build with fltk in 4.21.

aragon

Posted: Wed 24 Jun 2009, 11:02
by aragon
lobster,

you might also want to try my cli-apps-package with this: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 717#318717

aragon

Word processors won't run

Posted: Thu 03 Sep 2009, 09:57
by technowomble
Aragon.

I'm building a personal Puppy on 4.2.1, mainly for imaging - it's on an elderly Dell laptop - I've installed Firefox 2.0.0.7 from the official pet list and Ttuuxx's Gimp 2.4, both run OK and I've set up desktop icons for them, BUT I can't get a word processor working. I've tried the official pet of Abiword, the Abiword 2.7 pet from the forum and even Open Office from the Puppy 3 pets. They install, ( as far as I can see from the file system ), but although the permissions are set to ' execute ' they won't run, from the menu entry or going into the file system. I'd be inclined to suspect that something was missing, but FF and Gimp run OK. Any thoughts?

Retro Version

Posted: Thu 03 Sep 2009, 10:05
by tlchost
Would it be possible to create a 4.21 Retro version? Several of the computers I use require that.

Thanks

Thom

Posted: Thu 03 Sep 2009, 13:19
by jrb
technowombie wrote: I can't get a word processor working
A quick check shows that ch-OpenOffice-3.0.sfs loaded at boot with System->Bootmanager works. Unfortunately ch-abi2.6.4 is missing some dependencies.

Posted: Thu 03 Sep 2009, 18:11
by aragon
@technowomble
run abiword from a terminal-window, this will give you missing dependencies, but only one at a time.

better to run the following commands from a terminal window.

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which abiword
will give you the full path

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ldd [abiword with path] | grep not
will give you a list of all missing libs.

if you post the output, we could assist you.

aragon

Posted: Thu 03 Sep 2009, 18:15
by aragon
@Thom

difficult atm. i will try to but no promise.

aragon

Posted: Thu 03 Sep 2009, 18:42
by DaveS
[Solved] See below.


Hey Aragon, this is agreat concept. All going ok so far with Firefox 352 +Flash and simplemail, but unable to make printing work. I have installed CUPS 1.4b2 patched and Gutenprint driver pack but get this error when I try to print a test page

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Unsupported format 'application/vnd.cups-banner'!
Can you or somebody point me in the direction of the solution please?

Posted: Thu 03 Sep 2009, 19:15
by tlchost
aragon wrote: difficult atm. i will try to but no promise.
I understand.

Thom

Posted: Fri 04 Sep 2009, 10:01
by technowomble
@ aragorn

I've done a clean install and installed the abiword-2.6.3-complete-pup421 from Package manager. The installation report and the code you suggested report the same missing dependencies:-
libgnomeprint-2-2.so.0
libgnomeprintui-2-2.so.0
libgoffice-0.6.so.6
libwv-1.2.so.3
libAiksaurusGTK-1.2.so.0
libAiksaurus-1.2.so.0

I think the first 3 relate to goffice, and the last 2 to a thesaurus?

Posted: Fri 04 Sep 2009, 10:45
by Nekroze
Question?

This is more related to how it was built rather then the final product:

i myself have been starting on the track to making my next pupplet through puppy unleashed. although i have obtained the unleashed 4.2.1 tarball i cannot even extract it without significant errors. i used the terminal command tar -zxf as suggested on the unleashed page at puppylinux.com but as i said it had a fair amount of errors. so i attempted to use my windows install to extract it with winrar and it had problems with replacing files of the same name but i have reason to believe that is because windows has problems with file names that are the same but different CASING but the unleashed extract was larger then the one i untar'd in puppy.\

sorry to be off the topic a fair amount but it would be incredibly helpful at this time and well i would owe you one lol!

but either way thanks for the barebones, but one more question is it SMP enabled?

Nekroze

Posted: Fri 04 Sep 2009, 18:49
by DaveS
DaveS wrote:Hey Aragon, this is agreat concept. All going ok so far with Firefox 352 +Flash and simplemail, but unable to make printing work. I have installed CUPS 1.4b2 patched and Gutenprint driver pack but get this error when I try to print a test page

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Unsupported format 'application/vnd.cups-banner'!
Can you or somebody point me in the direction of the solution please?
YAY, got it figured.......... the printer speaks :)

Abiiword runs!

Posted: Sat 05 Sep 2009, 09:39
by technowomble
@Aragorn.

Thanks for the pointer, with the missing dependencies listed I managed to track all of them down and install them - libwv took some finding! - and Abiword now runs. All I have to do now is set up the dictionary/spell-checker for ' proper ' ( UK ) English :wink:, and I think I can remember how to do that, or at least where to find the relevant threads. One tip for anyone else in a similar position, make sure you install the right version of pets, I initially installed goffice 0.5, no joy, 0.6 was what was needed.

Posted: Sun 06 Sep 2009, 09:07
by Nekroze
bump for my question. can anyone assist i cannot get the unleashed tarball untared as it comes up with errors about configuring or something problem with a file that is read only.

Please can some one help?

Posted: Mon 07 Sep 2009, 09:56
by aragon
@ Nekroze

sorry overlooked.

a) smp
no it's not, as puppy 4.21 is not. there is actually no barebones-version with smp (i think)

b) problems unleashed
basically, you should follow http://puppylinux.com/development/puppy-unleashed.htm

potential pitfalls:
- do all steps in puppy!
- partition-type: ext2, etx3 or reiserfs partition
- download the packages directly to the correct 'packages'-folder.

for more help, we'll need more info and exact error-messages.

aragon

Posted: Mon 07 Sep 2009, 10:01
by aragon
DaveS wrote:YAY, got it figured.......... the printer speaks :)
thanks god, cups is one of my black holes...

aragon

Re: Abiiword runs!

Posted: Mon 07 Sep 2009, 10:07
by aragon
technowomble wrote:for ' proper ' ( UK ) English :wink:
yes, en_US or en_AU might be a pain for some user ;-)

aragon