(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

Guy

The tin hats quake because they might inadvertently
mount their hard drive and allow the imaginary
hordes of penguin hackers
access to their secret number of pins
- or pin number

I recently tried a BSD live disk
So secure it did not even run . . .

I find any Linux that denies me access to my CD ROM
or requiring a password to save a file
is secure beyond requirement . . .

Through diligent vitamin intake
I have increased my IQ to the point where
I realise the hound hacker, the ever present deleter of files
the visitor of dodgy web sites
is me

Find a 'secure' OS and I will have it not working
in less than a week through diligent misuse.
Probably without any special effort

Never connect to the Internet.

For the truly paranoid, never power up the computer.

@gposil
That is SO GOOD.

The 1st laugh of the day [may there be many more].

I like Puppy because it doesn't treat me like I'm a dummy.

What this puppy needs is another half dozen threads on running as root. Also more coverage of Windows and other distros. Oh, and a free AOL startup disc with every puppy ISO download.

sikpuppy wrote:Oh, and a free AOL startup disc with every puppy ISO download.

If you can spell root, the AOL disk comes in a nice metal tin....when you recieve it, throw away the AOL startup disc and use it for your Puppy Live-CD.

New Puppy Security...

Lobster wrote: I recently tried a BSD live disk
So secure it did not even run . . .

PEBKAC

@gposil
Another good one; 2nd laugh of the day!

I told my wife the 1st one, and tried to explain why it's so funny, but despite the fact she has a good sense of humour [she's the joker], she just didn't get it.

I think we could be on to something . . .

You are running as root:

If you are a Puppy User
Stay frisky

If you are an Ubuntu user
repeat the sacred mantra
'Do not run as root'
Repeat until hoarse

If you are an ex-Windows User
you are root, go bury yourself in the garden

Is there anyway we can add a honeypot/sandbox
for our esteemed and rare penguin cracker visitor?

Please chmod all filesystem read-only, even tmp and browser chache:

chmod -R 444 /

that way you're sure nothing gets saved to system, even if you have full HD install!

Lobster wrote:I think we could be on to something . . .

If you are an ex-Windows User
you are root, go bury yourself in the garden[/color]

And if you insist that Windows is the be all and end all, then you are just rooted.

chmod -R 444 /

Oh that is a geeky penguin joke - but I almost understood it . . .

This LCD protection device will ensure nothing untoward is viewable on
your PC

Lobster wrote:

chmod -R 444 /

Oh that is a geeky penguin joke - but I almost understood it . . .

This LCD protection device will ensure nothing untoward is viewable on
your PC

A HelloKitty Compudom?

A HelloKitty Compudom?

No peeking (so to speak)

how about a TFP pupplet ?
A pupplet for Tin foil hats

How about PoundPuppy. This is a puplet I am designing.

It's a Puplet with no networking, no Firewire, no USB, no WiFi, no browsers, no chat, no email, no hard drives, no floppies, totally locked down with SElinux and 10 firewalls, 5 antivirus suites, 64 character password length enforcement, hourly password change enforcement, shut down after 30 seconds inactivity, lock CD drive while in Puppy.

Oh and no music, videos, documents, games, graphics, fun, keyboard, mouse and no monitor. No sound at all. Definitely no printers.

Basically you have to wait until the cd stops spinning. You know it's probably booted then and ready for the safest computing experience ever.

i think secure hw is much better than secure sw



aragon

My current machine is worth, if I'm lucky about $90

If I downloaded Ubuntu and burned it to an opitical disk, the disk costs me
about 35 cents.

Considering I already have Linux partitions and GRUB, and a fairly fast
machine, the basic install would take about 1/2 an hour.

Then another hour or so adding packages from the repository.

Ubuntu protects me from things I don't need protection from. The setup
disk is in my room. The respository is still available.

It doesn't protect me from what I need protection from, namely my user
files.

I am the administrator of my $90 machine. This is the default, nobody
else to do the job.

As the admin, I backup my user files and configuration tweaks to a
separate device.

If the system goes bonkers on me, I would be wasting time if I spent
more time trying to fix it, than it would take to insert the install disk and
reinstall it the system.

~

Sometimes it pays to use yer noggin

1. I boot from an optical disk [CD-RW].

2. Make a pupsave on an ext3 partition on a Flash Drive.
And set this up so it doesn't auto-save during the session .
And gives me the choice "to save or not to save" at shut-down.

3. And copy the pupsave to a folder on an ext3 partition on an internal [10GB] HDD dedicated solely to 6 Puppies.
And I edited a file on the ISO so the pupsave on the HDD is treated as if on a Flash Drive.
And [as with 2 above] set this up so it doesn't auto-save during the session .
And gives me the choice "to save or not to save" at shut-down.

4. And then I make backup copies of the pupsave at key points...
[Like immediately prior to making an important/risky change that will be copied to the pupsave].

5. If I noticed something amiss [%CPU or Xload shooting up to MAX]...
I could:
Power-off.
Or...
Shut-down without saving any changes back to the pupsave.
Only if these failed would I restore a backup/copy of the pupsave.

6. I've never [not that I'm aware of] experienced any problem as a result of running as root....
And never seen anyone report that either.

7. When I say this kind of thing at the PC-Guide forums...
classicsoftware [a Moderator who spends 99% of his time helping people fix their infected Windows] gets angry and attacks me.
And yet I've never been banned. [12,717 posts since 1998]
He ridicules me because I offer Puppy Linux as a solution to various problems experienced by users of Windows.
I NEVER reply to attacks or ridicule.
I only offer solutions to problems.
e.g. See post #7 here.