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New Cloud Bible- flight 110 (CdBb- 110.iso) is now released and can be downloaded here- https://sourceforge.net/projects/cdbb/f ... o/download
You may review screenshots at- http://sourceforge.net/userapps/gallery ... /index.php
What is Cloud Bible flight 110?
A "cloud" Bible Study Puppy weighing in at a nimble 126 MB. Cloud Bible 110 welcomes the removal of all Office apps by Quirky NOP 1.2. It is a “Cloud

Hello Jody,

His work was very good!
We really liked the wallpapers. The system is working perfectly.
God bless you!

Congratulations!!

Jesus loves you!!!
Alfa and omega from Brazil

Nice work brother (or sister ?) Jody.
Quirky nop is a good building corner stone.

Thanks !

Thanks for your comments. Now working on a heavy version of Cloud Bible. Have taken Lucid Puppy 5.1.1 and added XFCE4. The final stage of development will hopefully be an image cd from which all versions can be booted along with any other resources that can be added. The end road- Lord willing..

In His Love- Jody

jodylehigh wrote:Thanks for your comments. Now working on a heavy version of Cloud Bible. Have taken Lucid Puppy 5.1.1 and added XFCE4. The final stage of development will hopefully be an image cd from which all versions can be booted along with any other resources that can be added. The end road- Lord willing..

In His Love- Jody

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Well, permit me to add a somewhat different point of view....

When I was young I attended Bible "study" in church. I put the word study in quotes becuase, well, it was lacking something. That something that was missing seems to also be missing in your descriptions provided of your project at the top of this thread. Perhaps I just missed it. But, to be explicit, what seems to be missing is, well, the points of view from those that do not believe --- those that have contrary views as to the validity of the Bible.

When I was young and attended church Bible "study", I was one of those kids that had questions --- questions that the Bible sunday school class didn't have the answer to (and in some cases were hostile to the questions even being asked).

Later in life I found others had questions like the ones I had. I would suggest you consider including links to a few web sites that bring up some of those questions.

For example, consider adding these three resources to your list of study resources:

I. Skeptic's Annotated Bible / Quran / Book of Mormon.

http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/


II. Iron Chariots Wiki
Iron Chariots is intended to provide information on apologetics and counter-apologetics.
The site appropriately inspired by this from Judges 1:19:

"And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain;
but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots
of iron"

http://www.ironchariots.org/


III. Ray Comforts Blog "Atheist Central"
You may find it odd that I would have Ray's web site here --- but Ray does such a poor job responding to regular posters (like the poster "Steven J" --- and for the record I'm not "Steven J") that Ray himself exposes the key defects and problems in the Bible.

http://raycomfortfood.blogspot.com/

Ok, that should be enough. Hope you don't mind that made these suggestions. But if you really want to study the Bible, you should tackle the issues and questions of those that have different points of view. Otherwise, your Bible study is simply a one-sided group think exercise. An exercise that will gloss over or minimize the hard questions others might have.

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Psalms 20:7-8 (KJV)
7 Some trust in chariots, and some in horses: but we will remember the name of the Lord our God.
8 They are brought down and fallen: but we are risen, and stand upright.

Hi Jody,

This sounds like a wonderful project that would help me with the computer lab at my church. I work in IT (Networking/PC support) so I was asked to take over a computer lab running windows 98 and XP machines with very old hardware. I was also asked to teach Sunday School for a rotating classes. One week I have first and second graders, another third and fourth grade, fifth and sixth grade the next week. We go over the bible story that is scheduled (We try to link up with what Pastor Marco's sermon is about) talk about it and then play bible games on the computers. My question to you is do you know of any good online or offline bible games that would appeal to these age groups? Also if you had any links to setting up bible study lesions that would be wonderful.

To rxr,

I feel that it is in our very nature to question everything. In fact as a Christian it is a responsibility to question what my beliefs are, what they mean to me, and how I feel the Lord's presence in my life and when I don't feel that presence as strongly as I would like. There are a lot of questions out there. In fact it feels as though there are nothing but questions outside of church. Questions that often that not only challenge your belief system (Which is healthy) but can seem to be dismissive and demeaning to a large groups of peoples or religions.

As a Sunday school teacher I feel that it is my responsibility to have the kids who come to class get something out of the lesson. For my purposes I feel that to be in the Bible and Bible centric activities and software. I will never have all of the answers and I am OK with that but I will never give a kid a hard time for asking questions. If I cannot answer them great. I have something new to learn. I am sorry that you where treated the way you should have been in Sunday school and were punished for being curious. That's the opposite of what should have happened. God bless you and may you find the answers to the questions you have.

So, when is Bible "study" nothing more than cult indoctrination? Did David Koresh, Jim Jones, the Moonies, etc... engage in Bible "study" or brainwashing?

I suggested some alternative points of view easily found on the web for your project. Its up to you guys to decide if your going to engage in real study or just the standard Bible "study" routine (=brainwashing).

Dear rxr,

The following Audio/Video Links may be found on Cloud Bible flight 110;

Warren-Flew Debate On The Existence of God (28 videos)
http://www.thebible1.net/video/warrenflewdebate

Laws-Schoenig Debate On The Existence of God (12 videos)
http://www.thebible1.net/video/lawsschoenigdebate

Butt/Barker Debate: Does God Exist? (Darwin Day Debate 2009 MP3)
http://www.apologeticspress.org/audio/D ... bate09.mp3

World Religions (20 videos- Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Shintoism, Confucianism, Judaism, Animism, Taoism, Zoroatrianism, Jainism, Sikhism, The New Age Movement)
http://www.thebible.net/video/worldreligions

The New Age Movement (6 videos)
http://www.thebible1.net/video/newagemovement

Christian Evidences (28 videos)
http://www.thebible1.net/video/christianevidences

There are numerous other links of interest to be delved out of the Cloud Bible which time does not permit me to list at this time. I did not attain my faith through indoctrination, but through active exploration. Questions are to be laid bare and be examined if one is expected to grow in knowledge and move closer to the truth..

In His Love- Jody

Dear Cakeordeath8808,

The following link from Bible Cloud flight 110 is a listing of several lessons which can be adapted or used as is;

http://www.tftw2.org/BCC/bible_courses.html

No game links. Will keep that in mind for next edition of Cloud Bible.

In His Love- Jody

Thank God for your efforts. I am not a "coder," and only run Puppy (4.3.1 and 5.1.1) on a couple of older PC's, but i see the potential. I need the Office apps, but i run TheWord Bible (close to E-sword in functionality: http://www.theword.gr/index.php?article.download) software under Wine fine, even on a 450mhz pc (i choose compact install). And also the BPBible (choose for USB disks, http://bpbible.com/download)

You have to navigate to the Wine folder in the root folder, with its C drive and Program files and drag the exe to the Desktop to get a link, but they runs well, thanks be to God.

As for apologetical resources, i have some worthy links if you want them, as we are to study to answer.

Hi just a note with the md5 sum (md5checksum) all you need to do is after you create your os and the iso you can generate a md5sum for it somehow (i don't know ) then include it next to any information for the iso itself. then you can actually provide the est service. its good that you have created this Cloud bible I like the idea. there are many ideas you can do. if you are going to add a 0penoffice, bible application and other things to the os great but remember it makes it bigger.

there are several options for a bible program you can use.

the popular E-sword is a good choice (only available in windows) there is already infomation about this for other christian puppy linux os. in lighthouse pup E-Sword has a built in wine installer (contact the lighthouse puppy developers or leave a note in the lighthouse puppy forum page)

also Jsword http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 42c214d8f9 this is a good version adn BigMike has done alot of work on this. origionally designed to run in pupy 431 might work in quirky.


there is also an sfs for bible time found in the lighthouse puppy site. http://www.lhpup.org/download500.htm#Bibletime

pluss other bible apps already dine for other versions of puppy linux.

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Thank you PeacebyJesus and its-me-again for your thoughts and comments!
The next step for Cloud Bible will be detailed and deliberate, even more so with your comments. Thanks again.

In His Love- Jody

Hi are there going to be any more releases of cloud bible. seems like you have stopped this great project.

maybe its finished. but quirk 1.3 is now out and you can update to quirky by installint teh quirky-1.3.sfs file and removing teh old one or something similar to that

there is allot of potential to expand cloud bible.

but remember there is this other great christian puppy version http://shepherdpuplinux.us/ <- maybe you should keep cloud bible in cloud. so its fast and easy. i like cloud bible as it is. but if not on the internet its a bit limited. i guess. so i use it sometimes when i do bible study.

Sounds neat.
I'm sticking with Lucid, but would like to suggest a little more:
http://www.unshackled.org/ I would HIGHLY recommend. It's half-hour testimonies, all interesting and edifying.

hello is there going to be any more versions of Cloud Bible i woudl love it if there was. if you are not going to make any more versions i would consider learning how to do it adn carry it on.

I have already tweaked Cloud bible using my church, adn local ministries replacing your links with equilivnt. leaving most of the bible links as they are good. I actually dont use cloud bible much unless i really want to do serious study. then its good and fast. i would also consider putting it onto cd. to give away as a miniatry tool. i did manage to fit cloud bible onto a small mini cd. amazing. so i might consider using it as a ministry tool. if i remaster this version i have tweeked. would it be ok to use teh same name. i would also upgrade it to quirky 1.3 if i did. then its a new version.

Would love it if you could reply to this. Thanks for a great puppy distro.

Please let me know what you think about it.

Dear RXR:

I understand your frustration and someone should have answered you but few preachers know how to defend their faith and even fewer Christians.
A Bible study is for studying the Bible so your contention that these links should be provided is erroneous.
Islam is the anti-thesis of Christianity that requires the death of every human being who does not pay the tax and eventually convert. If you do not know that perhaps you should read the Quran and the more popular Hadeeths yourself.
If you would like to ask me questions feel free to pm me.

its-me-again wrote:there is allot of potential to expand cloud bible.

but remember there is this other great christian puppy version http://shepherdpuplinux.us/ <- maybe you should keep cloud bible in cloud. so its fast and easy. i like cloud bible as it is. but if not on the internet its a bit limited. i guess. so i use it sometimes when i do bible study.

Are you the same its-me-again from the irc channel?

How does this compare with Esword or are you familiar with it?

Thanks