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Want to uninstall programs in a full install *SOLVED*

Posted: Thu 11 Nov 2010, 15:32
by cjs0216
I have done some searching around on the forums and this wasn't clear to me. What I want to do is uninstall some of the software that comes with Puppy. I read about Pet-be-gone, but it seems it doesn't work with the newest version of PL. Am I wrong in this assumption? I've also read that when you do unistall, it isn't an unistall in a traditional sense, but a sort of hiding of programs you don't want. To be clear, I'm using Lucid Puppy and I've done a full install on a 6GB hdd and while I understand that these apps don't take up much space, I'm trying to conserve as much HD space as possible. I've Googled around for Puplets that might be setup the way I want, but to no avail. That and I am a do it yourself type person, and, well, I want to do it myself. Thanks in advance as I know I've been asking a lot of questions that seem to hold seemingly easy answers.

Posted: Thu 11 Nov 2010, 15:45
by Béèm
Don't apologize for asking questions, that's the purpose of forums.
But give a meaningful subject to you initial post, so people know what you are looking for.

I never did this, but there are a lot of posts about this.

The function is remastering.

But I don't know if it is possible to do from a FULL install.

As far as I remember the questions were mostly from people with frugal installs.
I even think people have done it when booting only from the live CD.

So I propose you edit the subject of your initial post to something like: Want to remaster a FULL install.

Posted: Thu 11 Nov 2010, 15:49
by cjs0216
Subject edited. Yeah I went through what seemed to be a million posts, but either I did not understand fully or they just simply didn't address how to do such a thing on a Full install. I've been reading up on woof, but it seems it's not completed, nor is it aimed at Linux beginners.

Package Removal

Posted: Thu 11 Nov 2010, 18:12
by Kal
This pet may work for you, it does for me in Quirky full install.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 50&#422950

Posted: Thu 11 Nov 2010, 18:24
by cjs0216
Seems ilke it worked. I tried uninstalling gtkam and it seemed to work, though the item is still in the menu. I'll assume that it's gone because when I click it in the menu, nothing happens and whe I try to run it from the console, it says command not found. Is this normal? I don't care if I have to edit the menu, I've figured out how to do that, I guess I'm asking if that's normal.

Posted: Thu 11 Nov 2010, 18:33
by Kal
In terminal console do a “fixmenus

Posted: Thu 11 Nov 2010, 18:37
by Béèm
Didn't know about that pet.
Well yes it seems to work, because you have a FULL install.
Apparently menu entries aren't removed automatically.
If you run fixmenus in a console and restart JWM is the entry still there?

If yes, you have to go to /usr/share/applications and find the corresponding desktop file for the removed application and do the fixmenus sequence again.

Posted: Thu 11 Nov 2010, 18:46
by cjs0216
The fixmenu thing did the trick...thanks guys

Posted: Thu 11 Nov 2010, 18:51
by Béèm
Good.
For the sake of fellow posters can you edit the subject of your initial post and add [SOLVED] at the end.

Posted: Thu 11 Nov 2010, 19:18
by rjbrewer
Dougals remaster script, as used in Fluppy, will also work.

The most significant hard drive space saving would be to use
ext2 instead of ext3 or ext4 partitions.

Ext2 on 6gb partition uses 106mb space;
ext3 or 4 uses 234mb.

Posted: Thu 11 Nov 2010, 19:20
by cjs0216
yeah, i'm using ext 2

Posted: Thu 11 Nov 2010, 19:22
by Béèm
rjbrewer wrote:Dougals remaster script, as used in Fluppy, will also work.
You mean, also in a FULL install?

Posted: Thu 11 Nov 2010, 19:43
by rjbrewer
Béèm wrote:
rjbrewer wrote:Dougals remaster script, as used in Fluppy, will also work.
You mean, also in a FULL install?
Yes;
Fluppy has 2 remaster apps.
One for cd remaster and one (based on dougals script) for
full installs.

Posted: Thu 11 Nov 2010, 19:55
by Béèm
Are these scripts available for other puppy's?
In the form of a pet package?

Posted: Thu 11 Nov 2010, 20:04
by rjbrewer
Béèm wrote:Are these scripts available for other puppy's?
In the form of a pet package?
Not that I'm aware of.

The remaster for full consists of 5 files; 3 of them I copied to the
same locations on a Luci install.

Don't have a Luci install right now; I'll do another and give
directions.

Posted: Thu 11 Nov 2010, 20:17
by duke93535
Unlike a frugal install, there is no need to remaster a full install to change what is there, it is changed, good or bad. There is no layering system used, so there is no initrd directory in the root of a full install.

The remastering is only needed for convenience, if you plan on transfering the full install to another machine with a live CD.

duke

Posted: Thu 11 Nov 2010, 20:29
by rjbrewer
duke93535 wrote:Unlike a frugal install, there is no need to remaster a full install to change what is there, it is changed, good or bad. There is no layering system used, so there is no initrd directory in the root of a full install.

The remastering is only needed for convenience, if you plan on transfering the full install to another machine with a live CD.

duke
Or you can choose to just make an iso and use any storage
device to transfer.

Posted: Thu 11 Nov 2010, 21:04
by duke93535
Yes, that is true in most cases, my new machine’s bios (gigabyte) for example, will not recognize and load from usb sticks, so we have to use a live CD. My dad’s new As Rock motherboard will. I am hoping for a bios update.

duke

Posted: Thu 11 Nov 2010, 21:15
by Béèm
rjbrewer wrote:
Béèm wrote:Are these scripts available for other puppy's?
In the form of a pet package?
Not that I'm aware of.

The remaster for full consists of 5 files; 3 of them I copied to the
same locations on a Luci install.

Don't have a Luci install right now; I'll do another and give
directions.
Thanks. I didn't know about those.