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Failed Frugal install Slacko on USBFlash

Posted: Sun 24 Jul 2011, 09:47
by vanchutr
Does anyone boot up successfully "slacko" (frugal installed) on USB Flash?

This is my menu.lst

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title SLACKO (usb/slacko)
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /slacko/initrd.gz
  kernel /slacko/vmlinuz   psubdir=slacko pmedia=usbflash pfix=fsck
  initrd /slacko/initrd.gz
Error message "... Can not find puppy_spup_311.37.sfs ...."

Re: Failed Frugal install Slacko on USBFlash

Posted: Sun 24 Jul 2011, 16:14
by bigpup
vanchutr wrote:Does anyone boot up successfully "slacko" (frugal installed) on USB Flash?

This is my menu.lst

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title SLACKO (usb/slacko)
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /slacko/initrd.gz
  kernel /slacko/vmlinuz  psubdir=slacko pmedia=usbflash pfix=fsck
  initrd /slacko/initrd.gz
Error message "... Can not find puppy_spup_311.37.sfs ...."
kernel /slacko/vmlinuz psubdir=slacko pmedia=usbflash pfix=fsck
Flip the location of the entries in red so it looks like:.
kernel /slacko/vmlinuz pmedia=usbflash psubdir=slacko pfix=fsck

Posted: Sun 24 Jul 2011, 23:32
by vanchutr
Thank you Bigpup.
Flipped two options but no success. I met same error:

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Searching ... puppy_spup_311.37.sfs not found Dropping out to initial-ramdisk console
...
In same menu, with luci_266, I can boot up and LUCI 266 runs no pains

*** This error comes on in frugal installation on USB-Flash (only)

Posted: Sun 24 Jul 2011, 23:57
by rcrsn51
How do you have the flash drive formatted - FAT16 or FAT32? I wonder if it has something to do with the extra-long name of the sfs file.

Posted: Mon 25 Jul 2011, 03:39
by vanchutr
To rcrsn51
I'd formatted my USB Flash in EXT3. I boot (good) it in many other distro (icepup 015, snow 020, midnight 003, popular 003, Puppy 432, luci 566). But I can not boot it with slacko (only slacko!)
Thank you, your reading

Posted: Mon 25 Jul 2011, 08:00
by enhu
have you tried the simplest params like this

kernel /slack/vmlinuz root=/dev/sdb1 ro vga=normal
initrd /slack/initrd.gz

Posted: Mon 25 Jul 2011, 08:34
by vanchutr
To Enhu
Still got same error
TK
(** Boot from USB Flash - My Comp has no HDD**)

Posted: Mon 25 Jul 2011, 08:51
by rcrsn51
vanchutr wrote:(** Boot from USB Flash - My Comp has no HDD**)
It would have been nice to mention that in your first post. Apparently, slacko has been built with the woof version that has the no-hard-drive-flash-drive boot bug.

There are discussions about this in the recent Luci threads.

Posted: Mon 25 Jul 2011, 08:55
by rhadon
From the first post of Slacko 311.37 110717:
01micko wrote:If you can't boot try instead of "pmedia=usbflash" using "pmedia=sdb1" (or if you have more drives/partitions bump the letter from 'b' to 'c' or 'd' or whatever suits your system).
Have you tried?

Rolf

Posted: Mon 25 Jul 2011, 13:11
by 01micko
rhadon wrote:From the first post of Slacko 311.37 110717:
01micko wrote:If you can't boot try instead of "pmedia=usbflash" using "pmedia=sdb1" (or if you have more drives/partitions bump the letter from 'b' to 'c' or 'd' or whatever suits your system).
Have you tried?

Rolf
Actually that was for the previous version, 310.37. My fault for not updating info :oops: .
Slacko is always built from the latest woof at the time, the no hard drive bug is supposed to be solved, though I haven't tested with latest slacko. On the 'todo' list.

Posted: Mon 25 Jul 2011, 23:28
by vanchutr
To 01micko. Thank you

01micko wrote:

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If you can't boot try instead of "pmedia=usbflash" using "pmedia=sdb1" (or if you have more drives/partitions bump the letter from 'b' to 'c' or 'd' or whatever suits your system). 
SLACKO 311.17 boot with this entry:

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title SLACKO2 (usb/slacko)  
kernel /slacko/vmlinuz pmedia=sdb psubdir=slacko
initrd /slacko/initrd.gz
I'd used option "pmedia=sdb" - (not pmedia=sdb1). And I'd solved my "noob"
Thank you again.

SLACKO run fast
I can connect to internet with 3GUSB modem (Huawei) with SLACKO
sound works automatically (on my comp.) - no need to config...
Install SCIM method input - Success
Easy to use SLACKO
Thank to all developpers and 01micko

Posted: Tue 26 Jul 2011, 00:23
by rcrsn51
@vanchutr: Try leaving out all the options and just make the line

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kernel /slacko/vmlinuz 
I suspect that this will work just as well. Then try

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kernel /slacko/vmlinuz pmedia=vanchutr psubdir=slacko

Posted: Tue 26 Jul 2011, 01:48
by vanchutr
To Rcrsn51

rcrsn51 wrote

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@vanchutr: Try leaving out all the options and just make the line
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kernel /slacko/vmlinuz

I suspect that this will work just as well. Then try
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kernel /slacko/vmlinuz pmedia=vanchutr psubdir=slacko
It works with my frugal instal.. (on USB Flash)
But how is that? A magic code? extra stuff? A bug of Grub4Dos? Because I'd installed USB boot code from Grub4Dos 1.7 (shinobar)?

I'd tested with other entry:

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title SLACKO2 (usb/slacko)  
kernel /slacko/vmlinuz pmedia=ababa psubdir=slacko  
initrd /slacko/initrd.gz
That works also (pmedia=ababa)!!! :lol:

Any comments?
Thank you, Rcrsn51

Posted: Tue 26 Jul 2011, 07:09
by rcrsn51
The "pmedia" argument is only designed to take values like "usbflash" or "atahd". Any other values, like "sdb" or "vanchutr", are ignored and Puppy starts searching your drives for the sfs file. Did you see the word "pausing" in red?

Apparently, new kernels need extra time on some machines for USB devices to be initialized. Making Puppy hunt around for the sfs file allows that to happen.

Posted: Tue 26 Jul 2011, 10:21
by vanchutr
Thank you rcrsn51
Problem was solved --
No--no--no-- I'm wrong
Can boot slacko with USB-Flash if my system with hard disk. Other while, without hard disk I can't boot

Re: Failed Frugal install Slacko on USBFlash

Posted: Tue 13 Mar 2012, 20:45
by RJARRRPCGP
vanchutr wrote:
Error message "... Can not find puppy_spup_311.37.sfs ...."
Are you using a 2008 or later board?

This is known to occur with the Asus P5QL Pro board when using the Marvell 88SExxxxxx PATA controller for the optical drive. Puppy's kernel obviously don't like Marvell 88SExxxxxx.

I dunno why it barfs with the Marvell controller, because Ubuntu and SliTaz are fine.

And I dunno about USB. I can't recall having a problem with USB.

Your Slacko problem is even more strange!

Posted: Tue 16 Apr 2013, 08:07
by ahoppin
I recently made up a usb thumb drive with Lupu 525, Lupu 528, and Precise 550, using grub4dos to select the OS. All boot fine on my Thinkpad T43, but Precise (only) wouldn't boot on my Asus M4A79T Deluxe. The symptom is exactly as described in this thread.

The workaround mentioned here - deleting the "pmedia=usbflash" from the menu.lst file - does make it boot. I can hear the disks thrashing for several seconds before Precise finds itself. However, I would think that there should be a better and more portable way to kill some time for the usb drive to wake up.