How do I wipe XP and install Puppy instead?

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timgri
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How do I wipe XP and install Puppy instead?

#1 Post by timgri »

I have a pentium4 intel computer that I just got from my mother..

Its current OS i Windows XP.

I downloaded the latest puppy version and unzipped it on a usb stick.

But now I do not know what to do.

When I start my computer (with the USB stick inserted) the computer just starts the Windows XP as usual..

Please help!
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#2 Post by dancytron »

Try http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal- ... -as-1-2-3/ to install to usb drive from windows.
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#3 Post by cthisbear »

Mate we have stacks of Puppies.

So which exact one.

Also what is your hardware >>> generic motherboard

or Acer, HP, Samsung????????????????????/

Mandrake the Magician does not lurk on the Puppy forum.

So help us out eh!

Also this is in Projects.

You should have posted in Beginners.

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This may get you going....Booting a Toshiba on usb.

Just to give you some ideas.....right.

Has a Youtube video as well.

Get back to us.

We are happy to help....but supply the specs.

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When the machine posts, I hit F12 key and ensure my boot menu is set to "Removable Device"...

The machine boots into Windows XP. WTF?! "

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You need to look at the hard drives boot order first.

Move the hard drive down....and the USB to the top.

Then save the settings....usually >> F10

Try different usb ports as well.

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" Yeah mate I've done just that with my Toshiba Satellite A70.

A good old bomb.

Running Linux Mint 14 sweet - off USB bootable!

Use UNetbootin to burn your ISO file on the USB,
then plug in your USB and hit F2 for BIOS settings on reboot.

Go to Boot tab and press Enter to expand the Hard Drives list,

where you'll find your USB stick.

Use F6 to shift it to the top of the list and CRANK IT UP! Cheers! "

http://www.linlap.com/toshiba_satellite_a70

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And little known but....

Sometimes when even that won't work...all the above.....

Boot Windows... pop in the usb....restart the machine...

Go to the bios setup...

Check the drives...and finally your usb shows up.

Love dem' computers don't you.

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Always handy to try another PC with your usb to see
if it boots there.

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Youtube How to.

Toshiba How-To: Setting The System Boot Priority in Bios

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh-Dx5lPh4E

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Chris.
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#4 Post by timgri »

Thanks for the kind reply!

It is a HP computer. I do not know what kind of motherboard right now. How do I check?

The above link seems nice. I found a USB installer that works for Puppy 4.3.1.

I think I could just download that version and see if it will boot.. =))

Many users are using the 4.3.1 version so that would be a nice choice, right?
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#5 Post by timgri »

I found a 4.3.1 on this site:

http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=05720


Sorry for posting this on the wrong place in the forum BTW. Maybe someone can help me move it?
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#6 Post by timgri »

I use the pendrive on:
http://www.pendrivelinux.com/xboot-m...o-usb-creator/

So now let´s se if it works.....
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Installation complete

#7 Post by timgri »

It installed with no problems.

The only difficult thing was to press the ESC button while the computer starts - to enter the BOOT menu... =)

I also needed to know the vertical and horizontal frequenzy ranges for the monitor, but that was possibly to "google up".

Thanks for the support guys!!!!!
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XP is back..... =(

#8 Post by timgri »

Now something really annoying happened.. I turned the computer off, and the next time I turned it on the XP system jumped back on... Frustrating. Why did the puppy not stay on my computer???
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#9 Post by Flash »

Timgri, are you trying to install Puppy in the computer so you don't need the USB flash drive any more, or do you want to always run Puppy from the USB flash drive and leave what's in the computer alone?

If you're trying to install Puppy in the computer, do you want to get rid of Windows and replace it with Puppy, or do you want to keep Windows and be able to run Puppy when you want?
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Re: Installation complete

#10 Post by Moat »

timgri wrote: The only difficult thing was to press the ESC button while the computer starts - to enter the BOOT menu...
Setting the USB Puppy to boot from the boot menu only works that one time, for that session. If you want the computer to automatically boot from a USB drive each and every time it's plugged in, you must change the order in which the BIOS looks for something to boot from - by, instead, accessing the BIOS settings at startup and changing the order from there (putting USB first in line). You'll have to press some other key during startup to access BIOS - that key being specific to the make/model of your computer (search Google or your owners manual for which key that is - often f2, f8, f10, etc).

Here's a tutorial - don't worry, it's actually very easy...

http://www.howtogeek.com/129815/beginne ... ters-bios/

That way, if your Puppy USB stick is plugged in, it'll boot straight to Puppy. If next time the USB is not plugged in, it'll boot normally to XP (or a CD/DVD, if set in that order and a bootable CD/DVD is in the drive tray).

Bob
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#11 Post by timgri »

But I want to install the Puppy as the default OS and I want the XP system gone forever.... :twisted:

How do I do that?
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#12 Post by timgri »

Oh i did not see your question until now, Flash.

And I realize i was unclear bofore..

So what I want to do is INSTALL puppy. :!:

(Not run it from the USB..)
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#13 Post by OscarTalks »

timgri wrote:So what I want to do is INSTALL puppy
I suggest you should try to use the latest Puppy which is Slacko 5.7 rather than 4.3.1 which is quite old now. Download the .iso and burn it (as an image, not a copy) to a CD as your first step. Hopefully you have a CD burner that works and a blank CD or CD-RW.

Once you have booted Puppy (from a CD or from USB) you have to use the tools found within the menu in Puppy. Gparted will wipe Windows and format the hard disc. Puppy Universal Installer will then install Puppy. You then also need to run one of the Grub config programs to install and set up your bootloader.
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#14 Post by nooby »

But is it really wise to get rid of the only working OS
instead of having Puppy installed on an USB and to
learn much using it before you decide on
doing frugal install or full install of the HD can
be problem with drivers of Printer/ scanners and other gear

But as my name imply. I am a noob trust me on that
so listen to the wise guys. I disagree with some of them obviously
but I would keep the win OS until I have set up Puppy as I want to
then less hassle when you know what programs you prefer.
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though
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#15 Post by timgri »

This is an extra computer that i use just to experiment with, so it is ok if it does not work at once..

But thanks for your concern, Noob! =)

It makes sense to try a newer version. I´ll try that this weekend..
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#16 Post by nooby »

A former workmade and his old buddy from school times
did just that. Wipe the Win-xp against my suggstion to not do it.

Guess what did happen? They failed to find the needed drivers
because they did not new he nameas of those for that
Computer Motherboard.

Do it could be wise to first learn about the HW using USB
and see or find out how well that works with Graphic cards
and with access to internet.

Just a friendly thought.
I use Google Search on Puppy Forum
not an ideal solution though
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#17 Post by timgri »

Ha, thanks mate!

I will consider this. The XP system is not that bad after all. And there is meowbit to help me surf to nice .bit sites. :wink:
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#18 Post by infromthepound »

If you are not bothered about keeping XP, do what I do on a regular basis.
Start Puppy from the CD/USB (Any version)
Find Gparted (Could be in a couple of places depending on the Puppy).
Delete the hard drive partition,
Create a new partition and format it (I usually use ext2)
Install Puppy
Others will have different and possibly simpler ideas' but this works for me.
JB
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#19 Post by timgri »

Just installed Slacko Puppy 5.7. So far I run it only from the USB.

I must say it is great. Everything just works! 8)
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#20 Post by timgri »

Thanks, infromthepound!

=)

That worked well, At least I managed to delete the partitions.

It feels really good to be rid of that old XP system! :)

But the Slacko Puppy still Boots from the USB.

How do I install Slacko Puppy on the partition and make it BOOT from it???
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