I did feel me pissed on as the new Puppys / Quirkys did come.
I did feel me pissed on as I did see, that the community did react very negative or sometimes aggressive to the real progressive work of RSH, a very long, no, extremely long time work in company of the school teacher Schutzhund (Wolfgang), probably the only one Puppy user working daily with a park of PC's in Puppy linux over 100 pieces of PC's...
As the new Puppys / Quirkys did come, I was in the first time very happy: I did see in Quirky 5.49 a progress: more simple. Only the ability to remaster was loose... Short time after that came Quirky 6 with his terrifiant need of RAM. My son did see my preoccupation with this matter. He knows that Puppy signify a lot for me (you can my registering date at this forum a the left side of this message! And, at this time, as I did never really learn English, it was very difficult to follow that what did happen! Today, I can write what I will in my own English dialect with an reduced choice of word and a lot of word coming directly from my mother tongue, French, as French is also a kind of mother tongue of English...). I did explain him the evolution and he did laugh: No problem dad, my actual PC is to old for me, I am not student any more and will so and so buy a new one. My laptop is born about 2009 it is really old, but with Quad-processor and 8 Gb you can oppen all Puppy's you want! Take this Laptop: I already have a new one! And his wife did give her old MacBook to my wife being constantly under Puppy / NuTyx (both did have periods, where it was not possible to continue: visualisation, printing etc.) since 2004 or few more early! No uindoo more since 2004 at home excepted for home banking as it is absolutely condition. Always Puppy if going or NuTyx if not. Now, she uses MacOS of course as don't find some clear and easy way to install Puppy on the EFI system and will not learn somewhat other than grub! She has only 2 Gb RAM in the MacBook so that divers new Quirky stay closed... And they would need a complete new partition! Regarding this evolution, I will say that the Puppy community exclude actually 10 year constant users instead to try to acquire the ability to run on the classic products of the market... Is that good for a community?
Having now the desired 8 Gb opening all doors of Puppy / Quirky I did discover the really attractive new one requiring new empty partition or if not extrem much RAM (over 4 GB if I right understand what happens... Because, I did, of course, not read the README to install downloadable separately because of my bad English (I have to much English to read... It causes efforts. Some forum users can't not understand, using slangs, short cuts and abreviations, that THIS forum especially groups a lot of user as I making a great effort to follow, only because of the language (no, I am NOT handicapped: I speak a second language what is absolutely not my mother tongue, German, and can read on and think in Russian and did learn as well Latin as classic Greek). So, to avoid to read and seeing that it is to use the new Puppys / Quirkys as live ISOs, I start them frugal and live without some save file.
I did discover so, that save files are a little completely un-needing thing (divers hobby developers did create there Puplets observing that constatation: no invitation to create some save file, it is nonsense - why a menu and over that an invitation extra? Those action can be placed on the menu or under the icon to set up Puppy! Why a 3thd place over that? I was good in Puppy 1.7 (about, I can not the remember the real release where it did happen) as it was new! And the default value had never should have been "yes" as it is yet the fact 10 years later: The user using at the first time can move ONCE only the cursor from NO to YES instead to force the other users never using a save file to do that EACH RESTART ELSE IF IT IS 10 TIME THE DAY! Same thing for the lovely little greeting windows after new starts! Why? An icon "1st start hit here" would be enough and a redirection to "Setting up" . This design of the start / restart is absurd. I don't like save file because it would be easily possible to copy in a central only one file ALL MY PRIVATE SETTINGS and a lot of MY VALUES as Seamonkey etc. saves all in it!
This is nonsens: This part of setting can be in a great part centralised in the grub starting file.
As Puppy did force me in some kind to get PC power, I constate today that the actual (daily version) of Lubuntu 16.04 starts about double faster that each Puppy I use (probably because a different use of the data compression) using following grub.cfg (yes, I know, Puppy will continue to ignore the official actual grub from GNU):
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menuentry "Gnewsense 3.1" {
insmod loopback
insmod iso9660
set isofile="/gnewsense-live-3.1-amd64-gnome.iso"
#recherche de la partition dans laquelle se trouve le fichier ISO et montage de celle ci dans "/"
search -sf $isofile
#Montage du fichier ISO dans (loop)/
loopback loop $isofile
echo 'Chargement du noyau Linux ...'
linux (loop)/live/vmlinuz locale=fr_FR bootkbd=us console-setup/layoutcode=us_intl iso-scan/filename=$isofile boot=live file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed quiet splash --
echo 'Chargement du disque mémoire initial ...'
initrd (loop)/live/initrd.img
}
menuentry "Mint 17.02" {
insmod loopback
insmod iso9660
set isofile="/linuxmint-17.2-kde-32bit.iso"
#recherche de la partition dans laquelle se trouve le fichier ISO et montage de celle ci dans "/"
search -sf $isofile
#Montage du fichier ISO dans (loop)/
loopback loop $isofile
echo 'Chargement du noyau Linux ...'
linux (loop)/casper/vmlinuz locale=fr_FR bootkbd=us console-setup/layoutcode=us_intl iso-scan/filename=$isofile boot=casper file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed quiet splash --
echo 'Chargement du disque mémoire initial ...'
initrd (loop)/casper/initrd.lz
}
menuentry "Trisquel 7.0" {
insmod loopback
insmod iso9660
set isofile="/trisquel_7.0_i686.iso"
#recherche de la partition dans laquelle se trouve le fichier ISO et montage de celle ci dans "/"
search -sf $isofile
#Montage du fichier ISO dans (loop)/
loopback loop $isofile
echo 'Chargement du noyau Linux ...'
linux (loop)/casper/vmlinuz locale=fr_FR bootkbd=us console-setup/layoutcode=us_intl iso-scan/filename=$isofile boot=casper file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed quiet splash --
echo 'Chargement du disque mémoire initial ...'
initrd (loop)/casper/initrd
}
menuentry "Ubuntu 16.04" {
insmod loopback
insmod iso9660
set isofile="/xenial-desktop-i386.iso"
#recherche de la partition dans laquelle se trouve le fichier ISO et montage de celle ci dans "/"
search -sf $isofile
#Montage du fichier ISO dans (loop)/
loopback loop $isofile
echo 'Chargement du noyau Linux ...'
linux (loop)/casper/vmlinuz locale=fr_FR bootkbd=us console-setup/layoutcode=us_intl iso-scan/filename=$isofile boot=casper file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed quiet splash --
echo 'Chargement du disque mémoire initial ...'
initrd (loop)/casper/initrd.lz
}
menuentry "Vinux 5.0" {
insmod loopback
insmod iso9660
set isofile="/vinux-5.0-i386.iso"
#recherche de la partition dans laquelle se trouve le fichier ISO et montage de celle ci dans "/"
search -sf $isofile
#Montage du fichier ISO dans (loop)/
loopback loop $isofile
echo 'Chargement du noyau Linux ...'
linux (loop)/casper/vmlinuz locale=fr_FR bootkbd=us console-setup/layoutcode=us_intl iso-scan/filename=$isofile boot=casper file=/cdrom/preseed/ubuntu.seed quiet splash --
echo 'Chargement du disque mémoire initial ...'
initrd (loop)/casper/initrd.lz
}
note2: if you try lubunty 16.04 live you will probably wish superuser rights making only that:
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sudo passwd root
this technical design of start correspond about to the start in LazyUnicorn (but the way is, of course, completely different). a lot of parameters allow in the starting file to permit to start comfortable without some greeting window! No greeting window disturb users not willing to use some save file! Why save file and, other that, partitions icons... That is like belts and suspenders at the same time! We are not handicapped and need teacher all the time behind us...
using lubuntu, I would have 90 % of the main characteristics of Puppy! Using Puppy I have 90 % if the characteristics of Lubuntu .. as far as the installation of all dependencies success . Hm... In the other case, you have to resort to packages from Puppy's ... often not available / compatible with all versions.
quo vadis, Puppy?