What is the root pasword?

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What is the root pasword?

#1 Post by zanfran »

Hello, when I want to install a .Dev package, a poster appears asking me for a root password and I don't know what it is, who could help me?

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#2 Post by Mike Walsh »

Hello zanfran. And Image to the 'kennels'.

I don't quite follow. In all the years I've loaded the Devx packages (as & when required), I don't think I've ever been asked for a root password. (I've never, ever been daft enough to set one, either....)

Be that as it may, IIRC Puppy's default root 'password' is, I believe, "woofwoof". But I don't have a clue why you're being asked for it.....Puppy should auto-log you in at boot, so it shouldn't be needed.


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#3 Post by rockedge »

Hello Mike Walsh,

the main use of the root password is during network operations such as running the FTP server (pure-ftpd) and / or as a SAMBA file server, as well as remote SSH connections.

pretty much if you don't do a lot of those type of things one doesn't need the password that often if ever

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#4 Post by dancytron »

Don't know why it is asking, but the root password is usually

"woofwoof".

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#5 Post by Flash »

Zanfran, it might help if you told us which Puppy you're using and what program asked for the root password.

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Re: What is the root pasword?

#6 Post by zanfran »

zanfran wrote:Hello, when I want to install a .Dev package, a poster appears asking me for a root password and I don't know what it is, who could help me?

Hello I am using BionicPup64 8.0, it happens to me when you want to install any package also try to install a language pack and the same poster appeared to me, the program I was trying to install is stremio
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#7 Post by rcrsn51 »

What web browser are you using to download these packages?

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#8 Post by zanfran »

rcrsn51 wrote:What web browser are you using to download these packages?
Google Chrome

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#9 Post by williams2 »

You are probably running Chrome as "spot"

So you are probably running an installer program as spot.

Most other linux operating systems give their equivalent to spot
all of the administrative powers that root has.
Just use sudo.
Very often doesn't even need a password.

In other words, their "spot" equivalent might as well be root,
In other words, their "spot" equivalent is just as unsafe as running as root.

Spot has very limited powers.
Spot can never use root's powers
the way other linux's "spot" equivalent can.

When sudo asks for a password,
it does not want root's password.
Root's password won't work.
It wants spot's password.

But spot's password won't work.
Because Puppy's spot is never able to use root's admin powers.
Unless you reconfigure the sudoers file.

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# passwd spot
Changing password for spot
New password: pupp
Retype password: pupp
passwd: password for spot changed by root
#
# su spot
$ whoami
spot
$
$ cat /etc/shadow
cat: /etc/shadow: Permission denied
$
$ sudo cat /etc/shadow
Password: woofwoof
Sorry, try again.
Password: pupp
spot is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
$ su
su: must be suid to work properly
$
So spot's powers are very limited.
more limited than other linux's unprivledged users.
(and therefore safer)
spot can not install software.

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#10 Post by dancytron »

If I understand correctly, it is asking for a password when you are trying to download a file.

You need to download to the */spot directory.

It is traditionally /root/spot, although there has been some talk of moving it to /home/spot.

So...try going into your browser preferences and reset the download directory to the spot directory.

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#11 Post by bigpup »

Use the Pale Moon browser, that comes in Bionicpup64 8.0 and you will not have this problem.

You really need to try and get stuff by using Puppy Package Manager(PPM)

Finding a program offered on this forum Additional Software section.

I tried the deb package of Stremio from their web site.
It downloaded and I installed it.
The supplied .desktop file did not make a menu entry.
Run from a terminal.
It needs some qt5 stuff that is not in Bionicpup64 8.0
root# stremio
QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-root'
QStandardPaths: XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set, defaulting to '/tmp/runtime-root'
QQmlApplicationEngine failed to load component
qrc:/main.qml:12 module "Qt.labs.platform" is not installed
qrc:/main.qml:2 module "QtWebEngine" is not installed
qrc:/main.qml:3 module "QtWebChannel" is not installed
qrc:/main.qml:12 module "Qt.labs.platform" is not installed
qrc:/main.qml:2 module "QtWebEngine" is not installed
qrc:/main.qml:3 module "QtWebChannel" is not installed
qrc:/main.qml:12 module "Qt.labs.platform" is not installed
qrc:/main.qml:2 module "QtWebEngine" is not installed
qrc:/main.qml:3 module "QtWebChannel" is not installed

QObject::connect: Cannot connect MainApp::receivedMessage(QVariant, QVariant) to (null)::onAppMessageReceived(QVariant, QVariant)
A search in PPM can probably find what is needed.

This is what you can run into trying to use deb packages compiled for other Linux OS.
Some deb packages just work. Some need stuff that is not normally in Puppy versions.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
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Google-Chrome and 'wrong permissions'

#12 Post by mikeslr »

Depending on which version of google-chrome you are running, it can only download files to /root/spot/Downloads or /home/spot/Downloads. Look for a Spot2Root Permission Changer launcher on the taskbar. It has two arrows: a green-arrow pointing up, a red-arrow pointing down. Files downloaded by google-chrome into the spot's Downloads folder may also have permissions set so that they can not be run by root. The whole purpose of Spot is to prevent malware inadvertently downloaded from escaping into your system. You can examine the contents of the spot Downloads folder including for hidden files. As Root (Administrator) you can delete any file. But once you are satisfied that there is nothing in the Downloads folder you didn't want, you can click the launcher referred to above. While moving files out of /spot/Downloads to /root/Downloads it will change their permissions to be usable by Root.

For further information and a link to the latest Permission Changer, see http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 45#1050245

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