Fatdog64-802/801/800 Final [21 May 2019]

[stemsee]

Congratulations Gobbi you catch the first bug of 800

I blamed stemsee for this, if you read the last few posts of 800RC he asked for changes in the remaster process, which I complied, however, apparently I didn't test it enough. Hence the bug..

Actually I dutifully tested the medium remaster option and couldnt boot. As usual I was doing several different things simultaneously and I wrongfully I assumed it was my fault!! Or rightfully assumed?!? The point is I found the bug first I just didn't report it.

ON 800RC after loading an sfs there is a long delay before the menu gets updated...if at all without an X-restart. Can something be done? (I am downloading 800 final now, so maybe not a problem anymore,)

stemsee

On a side note. My hp x2 g2 210 cherrytrail 2 in 1 has more supported hardware with this kernel, including the HP truevision webcam (previously not working). But no battery is detected....I mention this because on I think it is BionicDog or DebianDog the battery is detected and charge state is displayed. I dont know if this is down to systemd, or what but I tried swapping firmware and other stuff ... same situation with bytecr soundcard, apulse on Fred's Dogs makes bytecr available (if not yet configured correctly). I was just wondering what the difference is that in fatdog less hardware is picked up. I tried hunting down the difference but my knowledge of both systems and the underlying linux is only superficial. Any insights appreciated!

[step]

My hp x2 g2 210 cherrytrail 2 in 1 has more supported hardware with this kernel, including the HP truevision webcam (previously not working). But no battery is detected....I mention this because on I think it is BionicDog or DebianDog the battery is detected and charge state is displayed.

Kernel 4.19.24 in Fatdog64-800 final doesn't detect the battery on at least another system besides yours. For that system replacing the kernel with 4.14.102 and its kernel modules sfs fixed battery detection. The modules are the same versions that went into Fatdog64-721, so you might end up with fewer supported devices than with kernel 4.19.24.

[stemsee]

OK Step

Thanks for quick reply. I will try to compare the configs and see if I can solve this mystery!

stemsee

[jamesbond]

I couldn't get KRITA appimage to work...

https://krita.org/en/download/krita-desktop/

Segmentation error
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This is caused by conflict between the included Qt5 libs in the AppImage and the Qt5 libs we have in Fatdog. When I disabled access to the host OS Qt5 library, it failed to lauch saying "missing Qt5 library" (even though the library exist in Krita's AppImage).

I'm still quite curious why the embedded Qt5 attempted to access host OS Qt5 libs; I believe this is an oversight on their part as AppImage aren't supposed to access host OS libraries.

As a comparison VirtualBox ships with its own Qt5 libs too but it doesn't conflict with anything; and VirtualBox isn't even an AppImage.

[SFR]

I couldn't get KRITA appimage to work...

https://krita.org/en/download/krita-desktop/

Segmentation error
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This is caused by conflict between the included Qt5 libs in the AppImage and the Qt5 libs we have in Fatdog. When I disabled access to the host OS Qt5 library, it failed to lauch saying "missing Qt5 library" (even though the library exist in Krita's AppImage).

I'm still quite curious why the embedded Qt5 attempted to access host OS Qt5 libs; I believe this is an oversight on their part as AppImage aren't supposed to access host OS libraries.

As a comparison VirtualBox ships with its own Qt5 libs too but it doesn't conflict with anything; and VirtualBox isn't even an AppImage.

There's a similar conflict with Kiwix.
This works for me with both apps:

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LD_LIBRARY_PATH= ./krita-4.1.7-x86_64.appimage

Greetings!

[Ron911]

Good afternoon (here in Belgium anyway )

Fatdog still doing very well on my Acer Aspire 1.
But I found a little problem in the Seamonkey browser (that I don't have with another puppy running Pale Moon).

When I go to the website of the Belgian TV (www.vrt.be/vrtnu) and want to watch live tv I get the following error:
Something went wrong determining the initial Period of the provided MPEG-DASH stream

Is there a fix that I can apply to stop this from happening?
Or is it possible to install Pale Moon in Fatdog64 (and maybe a link to a tutorial on how to do this?)

Thanks and best regards
Ron

[jamesbond]

Wow SFR, that really works!
I tried clearing out LD_LIBRARY_PATH of anything from /opt/qt stuff, I cleared all the QT* environment stuff, and it __still__ tried to pull Qt stuff. Your method of totally clearing LD_LIBRARY_PATH did the trick.

All in all, I see that AppRun inside the krita.appimage is a symlink directly to usr/bin/krita. This is a mistake and they should have a script that clears out LD_LIBRARY_PATH before launching the actual binary.

Good afternoon to you too, Ron911 (it's midnight here ). Palemoon is available from gslapt. I use palemoon myself quite often and we usually track the latest version.

[Ron911]

OK, thank you JamesB.
Palemoon installed and everything working.

Just to let you know (don't know if this is the normal way to do it), to have sound through hdmi on the tv I have to change the sound card settings from card 0 : analog to card 0 : hdmi 0
(and vice versa if I want sound from the laptop speakers again)
Sleep well

Ron

[jamesbond]

Just to let you know (don't know if this is the normal way to do it), to have sound through hdmi on the tv I have to change the sound card settings from card 0 : analog to card 0 : hdmi 0
(and vice versa if I want sound from the laptop speakers again)

Yes, this is normal. Fatdog64 doesn't have a sound server (e.g. pulseaudio), sound goes directly to the programmed ALSA card. And which sound it will go depends on the configuration given when the program is started. Exception is program which can dynamically changes its output (e.g. psip, guvcview). Most programs don't.

[Ron911]

OK JamesB.
Thank you for explaining it.
Regards
Ron

[don570]

I spoke too soon when I wrote that Blender 2.80
is compatible with nouveau driver. In fact it's quite buggy when rendering
because nouveau driver doesn't support CUDA.
It is stable enough to practise modeling.
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[jake29]

Two audio issues that I have tried to understand for myself. I use a laptop with Intel audio, which is mostly connected to an external HDMI monitor. Installation was done with external monitor connected.

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.asoundrc: https://pastebin.com/raw/7BGvRBMu
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(1) OSS remapping not working. Even though audio is working fine, each reboot I have to configure 'Volume Control' - changing from OSS to Alsa - before I can actually change volume using slider.

Boot with HDMI monitor connected:

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# lsmod | grep oss
snd_pcm_oss            45056  0
snd_mixer_oss          24576  3 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm                77824  6 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_core
snd                    65536  26 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hwdep,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_timer,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_mixer_oss

Boot without HDMI monitor connected:

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# lsmod | grep oss
snd_pcm_oss            45056  0
snd_mixer_oss          24576  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm                77824  5 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_core
snd                    65536  10 snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hwdep,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_timer,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_mixer_oss

(2) When starting laptop without external HDMI monitor, I have no audio at all and no option for the onboard audio is listed - I tried every available soundcard shown.

[jamesbond]

jake29
(1) that's because in the current implementation, the OSS remapping is not persistent across reboots. It's an enhancement.
(2) please send bugreport.sh when you're having this problem (or just send contents of /proc/asound/cards) - but only when you're having this problem.

[stemsee]

Jake29

Is your computer Atom based? They are not well supported on linux, except hdmi was sorted in the kernel. They will need ucm, which comes with fatdog, but will also need pulse audio sound server.

I found a web page where some of these soundcards made to work with patches and config files which I downloaded but haven't yet tried.
https://www.linuxquestions.org/question ... 4175635564
Do lspci in term to see something like this ' Atom/Celeron/Pentium Processor x5-E8000/J3xxx/N3xxx Series SoC Transaction Register'

stemsee

I attach the files (bytecr x5 8350 cherrytrail soundcard), one patch for the kernel (might be obsolete), for anyone interested to take a look.

[jake29]

Is your computer Atom based? They are not well supported on linux, except hdmi was sorted in the kernel. They will need ucm, which comes with fatdog, but will also need pulse audio sound server.

Thanks for the interest. Laptop specs:

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Model: Dell Venue 11 Pro 7140
CPU: Intel Core M-5Y71
Mainboard: Intel Broadwell-Y PCH-LP (Premium)
Soundcard: Intel Broadwell PCH-LP - High Definition Audio Controller

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# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Host Bridge -OPI (rev 09)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation HD Graphics 5300 (rev 09)
00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Audio Controller (rev 09)
00:04.0 Signal processing controller: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Processor Thermal Subsystem (rev 09)
00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP USB xHCI Controller (rev 03)
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP MEI Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #3 (rev e3)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #4 (rev e3)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP LPC Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP SATA Controller [AHCI Mode] (rev 03)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP SMBus Controller (rev 03)
01:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7265 (rev 59)
02:00.0 SD Host controller: O2 Micro, Inc. SD/MMC Card Reader Controller (rev 01)

Edit: Added more laptop info.

[jd7654]

Tested well here on Acer Chromebook C740.

Everything works: touchpad, network, sound, etc. Much better than some past experiences with Chromebooks.

This one is running Stock Chrome OS, with Crouton Xubuntu added, but also boots to GalliumOS. Fatdog was manually frugal installed on the GalliumOS partition.

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# inxi -bC
System:
  Host: Acer-Chromebook Kernel: 4.19.24 x86_64 bits: 64 
  Desktop: Openbox 3.6.1 Distro: Fatdog64 Linux 800 
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: GOOGLE product: Auron_Paine v: 1.0 serial: 123456789 
  Mobo: N/A model: N/A serial: N/A BIOS: coreboot v: N/A date: 01/06/2017 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 36.7 Wh condition: 36.7/44.7 Wh (82%) 
CPU:
  Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Celeron 3205U bits: 64 type: MCP 
  L2 cache: 2048 KiB 
  Speed: 798 MHz min/max: 500/1500 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 798 2: 798 
Graphics:
  Message: No Device data found. 
  Display: server: X.Org 1.20.3 driver: intel 
  unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1366x768~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Broadwell GT1 v: 4.5 Mesa 18.2.8 
Network:
  Message: No Device data found. 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 22.32 GiB used: 4.37 GiB (19.6%) 
Info:
  Processes: 137 Uptime: 4m Memory: 3.79 GiB used: 375.4 MiB (9.7%) 
  Shell: perl inxi: 3.0.32 
# 

[jake29]

@jamesbond - Booting into Fatdog64-800 without savefile has the same result - no audio from internal speakers. I guess that suggests kernel/kernel modules.

[Atle]

I now Skype keeps making thing difficult for Linux, but I hope it can work under FatDog.

I went to Skype website and downloaded that latest .deb file and converted it into fatdog format.

Installed and a icon appear in "Network" in the menu, but nothing happen as i click on it.

Anyone else got it working? Some dependencies?

Apart from that the latest 800 is great. Very fast and good improvements.

PS! I got low audio output on my internal PC speaker, but the external speaker is great.

Its sound, but quite low, despite being max in both tray and mixer

Installed Chrome and use that for "dubious stuff" such as microsoft and facebook. Skype online web works well in the browser so i do not need the skype client after all...

If you got a gmail skype adress, better log on using your username.

[jamesbond]

@jake29, @WB7ODYFred: I've got your PM and will answer asap. Thank you.

@jd7654: thank you for testing, glad that it works!

@Atle:

I went to Skype website and downloaded that latest .deb file and converted it into fatdog format.

Tell me about it. Between me, smokey01, Chris, SFR and step, we spent countless hours trying to get it to work. It did work. Sort of. We can send text messages. But no voice. Which sort of defeats the purpose ...

Skype online web works well in the browser so i do not need the skype client after all...

That's a good thing to hear.

PS! I got low audio output on my internal PC speaker, but the external speaker is great.

Its sound, but quite low, despite being max in both tray and mixer

It's a codec and driver problem, I think ALSA has been lowering the output volume for years. I have the same problem too and I eventually get fed up enough with it to do something.

Get the updated sound card applet from here: http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/iso/ho ... arch-1.txz. Save it (don't install it from the browser). Then, use Rox to find the location where the package is downloaded, then right-click on it and choose "Install Package".

Run it, and choose "software volume control with 20dB preamp".

When done, play music. Any music. Then launch alsamixer (you can launch it from Control Panel too), and use arrow keys to scroll to the rightmost place, there is a new control called "SoftPCM". Adjust the volume upwards. Hope it helps.

[dancytron]

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PS! I got low audio output on my internal PC speaker, but the external speaker is great.

Its sound, but quite low, despite being max in both tray and mixer

It's a codec and driver problem, I think ALSA has been lowering the output volume for years. I have the same problem too and I eventually get fed up enough with it to do something.

Get the updated sound card applet from here: http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/iso/ho ... arch-1.txz. Save it (don't install it from the browser). Then, use Rox to find the location where the package is downloaded, then right-click on it and choose "Install Package".

Run it, and choose "software volume control with 20dB preamp".

When done, play music. Any music. Then launch alsamixer (you can launch it from Control Panel too), and use arrow keys to scroll to the rightmost place, there is a new control called "SoftPCM". Adjust the volume upwards. Hope it helps.

Does this do anything different than manually creating /etc/asound.conf like suggested here?

https://alien.slackbook.org/blog/adding ... nd-levels/