EasyOS version 2.3.2, June 22, 2020

[BarryK]

Yay, 2.2.14 is out! See blog post:

https://bkhome.org/news/202003/easyos-v ... eased.html

There is one known bug:

Two new apps are SFR's PackIt and UExtract. They will show up in the right-click-on-afile-or-folder, however only the latter does.

If right-click on a *.tar.gz for example, UExtract is in the menu.

If right-click on a file or folder, PackIt is supposed to be in the menu, but isn't. It can still be run from the Utility menu. It was working when originally tested, so overlooked something in the pet.

[Sage]

2.2.14: works for me, thanks.

[plinej]

@Barry, I think I screwed up something in my /root folder because when I reboot I get a command prompt that says:

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EASYPC23551 login: root (automatic login)
#

I can just type startx and it loads but do you have any idea why it would do that?

[belham2]

I inadvetantly put this (below) in the EasyPup thread. For others, if needed, to reference here it is the link to that specific part of the thread:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 50#1053850

belham2 wrote:
2) Second question:
I updated Petget, and all the 'Debian' repos updated.

I then installed the latest Firefox-ESR-68.4.0.

Firefox-ESR installed easily and runs great.

I then rebooted (always do this after installing something).

I then go to EasyOS Main Menu, click-->Filesystem-->EasyContainerManagement, and select "Simple".

I wanted to create a 'Container' for this Firefox-ESR install.

But, nowhere under the "Simple" Easy Container Management" menu, is the selection for Firefox even available.

In EasyOS 2.2.14, is it still not possible to put something, or in fact, anything???, in a Container after it has been installed via PETget Package Manager??


Look in /usr/share/applications/firefox.desktop

What does the "Exec=" line look like?

It should be just "Exec=firefox", no path and no parameters after.

This is an, admittedly annoying, restriction, that can cause the app to be left out of the drop-down list.

I am not sure, but maybe the names should match, that is "firefox.desktop" and "Exec=firefox"

Also, don't select anything in the "Security options" frame, it will use the default.



Thanks, Barry, am trying what you wrote now. Was actually trying something like this. Also tried to trick the existing "www" container into firing Firefox if I placed Firefox as the default web browser (which I did). Still no luck. So I'll look at the "Exec..." line and see if it will go.

Otherwise, EasyOS is running great. Thanks!




P.S. Not to change the subject, but I've got several old spinning platter 250-500GB + 1TB-2TB SATA hard drives lying around. Normally I salvage the magnets out of them and use the magnets for all sorts of thing. But I got to wondering: could using DD to install EasyOS 2.2.14 across all 500Gb or 1 or 2TB go without problems? I know it might be a waste of hard drive space. Still I was just curious if the #.gz EasyOS file and using DD could expand this much space and work without problems??

[lvds]

Yay, 2.2.14 is out! See blog post:

https://bkhome.org/news/202003/easyos-v ... eased.html

Hi Barry and all,

I'm using EasyOs previous release and I could not find in the blog
https://bkhome.org/news/202003/easyos-v ... eased.html
how to upgrade inside EasyOs. Did I miss something or do we have to re-install each time ? In case there is a tools to easy upgrade, I think it would be great to have it explained into the installation help.

Also, I would like to know if the SFS and PET I have in Puppy BionicPup64 8.0 can be used in EasyOs ?

My own words, because I've read your writtings in the blog about the largest size of the distribution: for having work long years with office tools with friends, we found gnumeric, abiword, mtpaint useless. They may be lighter than LibreOffice and gimp, but they are buggy and useless. It would be a much better choice to simply remove them and let the user download SFS files (LibreOffice, GIMP, or even Abiword and Gnumeric if someone really want them...)

Moreover, because of the epidemic confinments, many people rely on distant work, work at home, and RDP seems not be useable for internet connections so people need easy to connect internet tools like Teamviewer. I think it is urgent to build a Teamviewer SFS file with the latest release (if someone more capable than me is willing to do it, please kindly explain how you did as I would like to learn very much).

Many thanks for your hard work, Barry and all, you're the bests !

Laurent

[lvds]

My own words, because I've read your writtings in the blog about the largest size of the distribution: for having work long years with office tools with friends, we found gnumeric, abiword, mtpaint useless. They may be lighter than LibreOffice and gimp, but they are buggy and useless. It would be a much better choice to simply remove them and let the user download SFS files (LibreOffice, GIMP, or even Abiword and Gnumeric if someone really want them...)

I forgot to say that it would be best to let the user chose its web browser and email software instead of having seamonkey inside the distribution, and it would be great to have this as part of the installation process. So, when someone installs EasyOs, he could select its own office tools, web browser, and email software, which will be then downloaded as SFS files and put in place in its own install !

Really that would be great. And one step further, during the installation process, the user could also select its own favorite desktop (with JWM as default, then XFCE, KDE etc...)

By using EasyOs lasts months I've found weird things in the bottom panel, I will try to make a list and explain in a later post, but really it is somehow confusing for a new user coming from KDE or XFCE. I recall when I was building puppy in series 2 that it was the one of the firsts thing people were often telling me

Laurent

[lvds]

sorry, wrong button. Can a moderator delete this post ?

[lvds]

Yay, 2.2.14 is out! See blog post:

https://bkhome.org/news/202003/easyos-v ... eased.html

Hi Barry and all,

I'm using EasyOs previous release and I could not find in the blog
https://bkhome.org/news/202003/easyos-v ... eased.html
how to upgrade inside EasyOs. Did I miss something or do we have to re-install each time ? In case there is a tools to easy upgrade, I think it would be great to have it explained into the installation help.

...Ok I finally found HOW TO UPGRADE, here is the link
https://easyos.org/user/easy-version-up ... grade.html

I think it deserves to be in the blog post about the release
https://bkhome.org/news/202003/easyos-v ... eased.html
as something like this:

- If you need installation help etc...
- If you need to upgrade (or downgrade) etc...

Laurent

[wjaguar]

we found gnumeric, abiword, mtpaint useless. They may be lighter than LibreOffice and gimp, but they are buggy and useless.

If you found a bug in mtPaint, feel free to name it. If you did not, please stop lying.

[wjaguar]

Yay, 2.2.14 is out! See blog post:
https://bkhome.org/news/202003/easyos-v ... eased.html

And still the included mtpaint is 3.49.12 from year A.D. 2016. Is there a reason for not upgrading?

[lvds]

we found gnumeric, abiword, mtpaint useless. They may be lighter than LibreOffice and gimp, but they are buggy and useless.

If you found a bug in mtPaint, feel free to name it. If you did not, please stop lying.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend anyone. I've often distributed puplets to people and mtpaint is well known for not having the same comfort as drawing tools found in ubuntu or mint distributions for instance. Have a look at the latest mint release, they have a software called draw if I remember well. If only mtPaint could be as easy !

Laurent

[lvds]

Yay, 2.2.14 is out! See blog post:

https://bkhome.org/news/202003/easyos-v ... eased.html

Hi Barry and all,

I'm using EasyOs previous release and I could not find in the blog
https://bkhome.org/news/202003/easyos-v ... eased.html
how to upgrade inside EasyOs. Did I miss something or do we have to re-install each time ? In case there is a tools to easy upgrade, I think it would be great to have it explained into the installation help.

...Ok I finally found HOW TO UPGRADE, here is the link
https://easyos.org/user/easy-version-up ... grade.html

I think it deserves to be in the blog post about the release
https://bkhome.org/news/202003/easyos-v ... eased.html
as something like this:

- If you need installation help etc...
- If you need to upgrade (or downgrade) etc...

Laurent

Hi Barry, bad news: upgrade crashed.

How to upgrade
Replace the three files vmlinuz, initrd and easy.sfs in the boot-partition, with those of the new version.
Click on initrd to automatically "fix" the BOOT_SPECS file inside it.
Reboot, and you have upgraded.

I did it all. Initrd thing went fine. I told myself "now reboot", the cpu went near 99%, I told myself "let it work", it worked all night long, then 10 hours later or so, it was still running at 99% speed and the computer never stopped. I finally decided to press the stop button to shutdown the computer. I tried to boot my pendrive again but it is stuck on the syslinux blue screen. I guess I need to re-format my pendrive ?

Laurent

[BarryK]

I'm using EasyOs previous release and I could not find in the blog
https://bkhome.org/news/202003/easyos-v ... eased.html
how to upgrade inside EasyOs. Did I miss something or do we have to re-install each time ? In case there is a tools to easy upgrade, I think it would be great to have it explained into the installation help.

https://easyos.org/user/easy-version-up ... grade.html

[BarryK]

Also, I would like to know if the SFS and PET I have in Puppy BionicPup64 8.0 can be used in EasyOs ?

No, those used in EasyOS have a special format. Note, they are created by the 'dir2sfs' utility.

[BarryK]

Yay, 2.2.14 is out! See blog post:
https://bkhome.org/news/202003/easyos-v ... eased.html

And still the included mtpaint is 3.49.12 from year A.D. 2016. Is there a reason for not upgrading?

I used an old PET from the Pyro series of EasyOS. I have written a note to myself to compile the latest for the Buster series.

Note, mtPaint is my regular image processing GUI app.
I find it extremely useful for reducing the size of png image files, using "Effects -> Transform Colour -> Posterize", mostly when I take a snapshot of a window.
Even though Easy has Gimp, I never use it.

[BarryK]

How to upgrade
Replace the three files vmlinuz, initrd and easy.sfs in the boot-partition, with those of the new version.
Click on initrd to automatically "fix" the BOOT_SPECS file inside it.
Reboot, and you have upgraded.

I did it all. Initrd thing went fine. I told myself "now reboot", the cpu went near 99%, I told myself "let it work", it worked all night long, then 10 hours later or so, it was still running at 99% speed and the computer never stopped. I finally decided to press the stop button to shutdown the computer. I tried to boot my pendrive again but it is stuck on the syslinux blue screen. I guess I need to re-format my pendrive ?

Laurent

Please post the content of the "fixed" BOOT_SPECS file, and the result of running 'blkid' on the boot and working partitions of the pendrive.

Running some other Easy, you can click on the 'initrd' file of the "broken" pendrive and open it up to retrieve the BOOT_SPECS file.

[lp-dolittle]

@ belham2

Hi belham2,

in order not to 'overuse' usb flashsticks, I use to test new EasyOS releases after dd-ing the respective *.img or *.iso files onto old 2.5 inch IDE or SATA HDs which are connected to a laptop via an 'usb3 SATA/IDE adapter' (similar to that described in Barry's 'resurrection of the goosee diagrammer' post from March 12th).

The method works fine, and so far expanding of the partitions to the full drive space never proved to be a problem, but it should be mentioned that I only used relatively small HDs (up to 80 GB).

kind regards

[wjaguar]

I've often distributed puplets to people and mtpaint is well known for not having the same comfort as drawing tools found in ubuntu or mint distributions for instance

This sentiment, I know. People like what they like (mostly whatever they encountered first, it seems) and there is no changing it (without a large PR budget). Conversely, I dislike GIMP's UI so mtPaint is the answer, for me.

Have a look at the latest mint release, they have a software called draw if I remember well.

This one? https://maoschanz.github.io/drawing/

If only mtPaint could be as easy !

Technically, it maybe could. If someone who isn't me designed an UI of his dreams, mtPaint's V-code engine makes adding said UI as an option a simple enough task. But, given that the present interface is exactly what is easy for me, I think it's obvious why outside influence is needed for that.

[BarryK]

Yay, 2.2.14 is out! See blog post:
https://bkhome.org/news/202003/easyos-v ... eased.html

And still the included mtpaint is 3.49.12 from year A.D. 2016. Is there a reason for not upgrading?

I used an old PET from the Pyro series of EasyOS. I have written a note to myself to compile the latest for the Buster series.

Note, mtPaint is my regular image processing GUI app.
I find it extremely useful for reducing the size of png image files, using "Effects -> Transform Colour -> Posterize", mostly when I take a snapshot of a window.
Even though Easy has Gimp, I never use it.

mtPaint 3.49.25 has been compiled, will be in next release.

https://bkhome.org/news/202003/mtpaint- ... piled.html

[lp-dolittle]

@ Barry

Hi Barry,

since this thread seems to have become the preferred EasyOS as well as EasyPup forum, I mention an EasyPup-related Comment here.

Running EasyPup-2.2.14 on a laptop with an internal drive (sda1) from an external IDE-HD onto which I dumped the easypup-2.2.14-en.iso, I was faced with the following phenomenon:
EasyPup-2.2.14 correctly discovers an already existing Easypup save file in sda1 and offers to either upgrade this file (by pressing ‹Enter›) or to boot into RAM exclusively (by pressing any ‹printable character›). Choosing the second option results in the expected quick-setup screen, but surprisingly sda1 proves to be mounted simultaneously and cannot be unmounted!

If there are 2 (I think more than one) Easypup save files available in sda1, booting exclusively into RAM works fine, provided the ‹0 option› is selected in the spontaneously appearing list.


Kind regards