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Barburo
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Deleting Whiteout files in LH Pup

#101 Post by Barburo »

Thanks Taz,
Another question:
LHpup identifies then deletes whiteout files on exit.
Over time, the number of whiteout files .wh.* that LHPup detects but does not delete has grown. I now have over 500 files that do not get automatically deleted on exit. This increases shutdown or reboot times quite a lot.
Is there a reason that LHpup finds them but doesn't delete them?
Can I go ahead and delete them manually?

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Whiteout scan

#102 Post by tazoc »

Hi Barburo,
Just tap 'Ctrl+C' to during the whiteout scan to speed shutdown. If you want to experiment, here's how to delete all whiteouts:
From forum member wow: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=120
Troubleshooting
whiteout(.wh.*) files: This kind of file will give you problems if you're going to use SFS's. Run this command to get rid of them:

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find /initrd/pup_r* -name .wh.* -delete -print
Good idea to reboot afterward.

The reason why my LHP 3.x shutdown excludes certain whiteouts is partly to speed up the process and also because certain folders e.g., /Autostart, /applications, need whiteouts to enable moving or deleting files that are present in the main file system pup_301g_lighthouse.sfs. Thus, removing all whiteouts may cause files you previously deleted to re-appear! Could be a good thing, though if the file was necessary.

A new Lighthouse 4.1.2 beta should be available soon. Barry's improved code in Puppy 4.x now scans for whiteouts during startup, and only if there is a change in the SFS layers. So the whiteout scan portion of my 'pup_dip' script at shutdown is no longer needed. Startup and shutdown are both faster. I'll reply here as soon as this new version is posted. A couple of screenshots: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 5&start=15
-TazOC
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Bligh
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#103 Post by Bligh »

Lighthouse 4.1.2 that's interesting. I have been using 4.1.x a lot.
Cheers

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Barburo
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#104 Post by Barburo »

Hi Taz,
I look forward to your next version of Lighthouse. I liked the screenshots.
I've experimented with 4.1.* versions - I have a dual core machine and the new kernel takes advantage of that. The only drawback for me is that I find it almost impossible to get my wireless bcm44x card to work in Puppy 4 and its variants. Dougal is doing great work on the new connect wizard, but I'll probably have to craft a new version of my custom connect script (the old one doesn't work in puppy 4).
B.

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#105 Post by tazoc »

@Bligh,
Hello Bligh, good to hear from you!

@Barburo,
Interesting, I don't have any newer boxes, only single core ones. No laptops either. I've spent a good deal of time getting all my Lighthouse scripts and apps to work with Puppy 4.1.2. The only niggle I haven't worked out is shut down from a LiveCD/pfix=ram is flaky--drops to command line. But I found that by choosing to reboot instead of shutdown, creating a pup_save, then shutdown works fine! Strange isn't it? I noted some similar posts on the forum, but nobody seems to have a solution. Oh well, nothing is perfect I guess.

Take care,
TazOC
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Lighthouse 4.1.2 Beta 4 Released

#106 Post by tazoc »

Lighthouse 4.1.2 Beta 4 Released

Please post any comments and screenshots at http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 639#276639

I'm pretty sure the shutdown bug noted in my last post is corrected. Nearly pulled all my hair out on that one!
-TazOC
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Full Install Grub Presents, Prompt, Not Menu

#107 Post by LaneLester »

There's something about my old laptop that prevents newer distros (kernels?) from running reliably on it. So I've installed Lighthouse 3.01, which runs fine.

Because at this point I had no grub installed, I made both a frugal and a full install. During the full install I enabled grub to the MBR. However, when I boot, I get the grub prompt, rather than the grub menu of available OSes.

Lane

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Grub prompt instead of menu

#108 Post by tazoc »

Lane,
Grub can get very tricky so often I just boot from the CD, and either remove it or press 'h' at the Lighthouse boot menu to boot from the hard disk. Not sure this is it but you might look at /boot/grub/menu.lst (.lst as in list, not 1st) and see if this is near the top:

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## timeout sec
# Set a timeout, in SEC seconds, before automatically booting the default entry
# (normally the first entry defined).
timeout     7

## hiddenmenu
# Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu)
#hiddenmenu
If that doesn't help please zip and post your menu.lst

[Edit: Here's a related Google search.]

-TazOC
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#109 Post by LaneLester »

Someone else told me about the fact that newer gparted's create an inode size of 256, which the older grubs can't handle. After using 3.01's gparted to format the partition, all was well.

Thanks for responding.

Lane

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