Browser Wars... old boxes
Well with Easter coming I may get the time. (you're just trying to sell me on Opera... aren't you sage.. )
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Hey Mick
I don't think Opera Could ever fly as fast as Firepup, Plus it has the Qt feel to it. grrrrrrrr lol
anyways if you want the latest version Opera 9.64 8.2MB that should work out of the box and its 2.5MB compressed smaller because I removed the locales and only left english, here's a link
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=40969
it should work out of the box for you.
enjoy
ttuuxxx
I don't think Opera Could ever fly as fast as Firepup, Plus it has the Qt feel to it. grrrrrrrr lol
anyways if you want the latest version Opera 9.64 8.2MB that should work out of the box and its 2.5MB compressed smaller because I removed the locales and only left english, here's a link
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=40969
it should work out of the box for you.
enjoy
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
tuuxxx
I'll give 9.6 a spin over easter too. I'll do some times. I'm suspecting there willl be nothing between Firepup and Opera.
I'll give 9.6 a spin over easter too. I'll do some times. I'm suspecting there willl be nothing between Firepup and Opera.
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Agog no more
Firepup-4.3-dev
Footnote, spup on AMD k6 400MHz, 256MB ram running live. I mixed them up. All sites should have been in cache because these are "best of" figures. Nice
Later I'll compare Opera-10 alpha with SeaMonkey-2 alpha.... on fast and slow box...hehe
Firepup-4.3-dev
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Footnote, spup on AMD k6 400MHz, 256MB ram running live. I mixed them up. All sites should have been in cache because these are "best of" figures. Nice
Later I'll compare Opera-10 alpha with SeaMonkey-2 alpha.... on fast and slow box...hehe
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Naaa Sage Those times for Firepup are really slow, I've never seen them that slow, The only reason why they would be slow is the base its being tested on, Since Opera is a static Qt version and uses its own QT and Firepup was compiled on puppy 4 series & Libs and its being used on a slack/puppy mix it could be that. I know that opera would never open/fully load http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy in 2.2sec like I posted on the first page using 4.2 or 4 series. In the future I might try to make a static browser, I really should rip apart opera one of these days and see how it ticksSage wrote:Brilliant, 01 - perhaps the naysayers will listen, at last?
You are going to like 10a even more.....
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
ttuuxxx
Slow machine, fast OS.
There are more to browsers than speed. I won't go into that. The compilation issue I think doesn't matter. IMO, these are reasonable speeds for Firepup on a slow box, believe me it is slow! (compared to my athlon), and it could be dumb luck that Opera was faster.. (maybe Sage was using voodoo ).
Cheers
Slow machine, fast OS.
There are more to browsers than speed. I won't go into that. The compilation issue I think doesn't matter. IMO, these are reasonable speeds for Firepup on a slow box, believe me it is slow! (compared to my athlon), and it could be dumb luck that Opera was faster.. (maybe Sage was using voodoo ).
Cheers
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Updated the Opera Do-It-Yourself Guide (Apr 17 2009):
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=28317
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=28317
panzer
When I used your Opera 9.5 link I just ran "install.sh" from term. Any reason you don't do that? Worked fine for me.
ttuuxxx has a 9.64 compile available as a .pet, that works ok. I understand if people want more than the pet offers.
ttuuxxx.
Maybe a bug with your Opera9.64 pet, passwords for forums etc seem not to be saving for me. Any idea?
Cheers
When I used your Opera 9.5 link I just ran "install.sh" from term. Any reason you don't do that? Worked fine for me.
ttuuxxx has a 9.64 compile available as a .pet, that works ok. I understand if people want more than the pet offers.
ttuuxxx.
Maybe a bug with your Opera9.64 pet, passwords for forums etc seem not to be saving for me. Any idea?
Cheers
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Naa its the full static package from Opera itself, nothing removed. Opera doesn't give you as much control over it as does Firefox, but if you really wanted to fix it, I"M !00% sure you'll find your answer in the /root/.Opera hidden folder. It would be one of those config scripts.
ttuuxxx
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
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It works fine, but if you *don't* use the shellscript,you have a portable (sandboxed) Opera confined to one directory. That means easy updates / upgrades / backup:panzer
When I used your Opera 9.5 link I just ran "install.sh" from term. Any reason you don't do that? Worked fine for me.
When you're upgrading ,just delete everything but the 'profile' directory and extract the fresh build to the Opera folder
Backup: You can copy the whole Opera directory to a USB flash drive and use it from there (a basic script will do the trick)
ty panzer
I did the same about a year ago when FF3 was emerging, in Mandriva... (my pre-puppy days... dark ages )
I did the same about a year ago when FF3 was emerging, in Mandriva... (my pre-puppy days... dark ages )
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ttuuxxx, no problems... I just didn't know how to use the wand... the idea is a bit silly IMO
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Would you also test ecofox in your report
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=40497
It was developed on P700/192mb's, it wont fare well in terms of speed against the other browsers (even though its been speed optimized in its config)m but users will save time not having to configure themselves
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=40497
It was developed on P700/192mb's, it wont fare well in terms of speed against the other browsers (even though its been speed optimized in its config)m but users will save time not having to configure themselves
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Sage. I might need to change my underwear if I wait much longer for your O10a assessment....
No numbers, because I've been flat out doing other stuff as well as testing. Even real life stuff!
Opera10 alpha is very fast in quite a few puplets, including NYP, spup, slaxer-pup and standard 4.21.
However in NYP a new browser enters the equation. FF3.07 which Mark has humming very fast.
I may in the next week or so take a look at ecofox... is that based on FF2.x?
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