Coming Soon: Fluppy for netbooks, widescreens, smallscreens
Anyone who wants to help test, please try the attached build of Flwm and let me know what you think. All you need to do is install the pet and restart Xwindows.
If you'd like to try it with Rox Panel the instructions are here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=47280
(the pager and taskbar applets will not work with flwm; flwm has a pager and taskbar on the popup menu)
Edit: I've added a feature that forces windows that are too big for the screen to be resized, even if the window claims that it cannot be resized. I've tested this with excellent results so far, so let me know if you experience problems. To return a window to it's "too big" size, just unselect the maximize button. You can see this in action with ePDFView, and the connectwizard dialup modem wizard.
If you'd like to try it with Rox Panel the instructions are here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=47280
(the pager and taskbar applets will not work with flwm; flwm has a pager and taskbar on the popup menu)
Edit: I've added a feature that forces windows that are too big for the screen to be resized, even if the window claims that it cannot be resized. I've tested this with excellent results so far, so let me know if you experience problems. To return a window to it's "too big" size, just unselect the maximize button. You can see this in action with ePDFView, and the connectwizard dialup modem wizard.
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Okay, now I get it. I would suggest (especially for neophytes like myself) to hit cnt-alt-backspace to restart x and then stress that they need to right-click to bring up the new menu display.
When folks do that, the new menu looks good, though sans the groovy little programs icons of jwm.
But it definitely clears screen space, and so far, it works well. I'll be glad to test eee kernel as well.
Addendum: I put it through all menu items, including shutdown. Works fine.
Jake
When folks do that, the new menu looks good, though sans the groovy little programs icons of jwm.
But it definitely clears screen space, and so far, it works well. I'll be glad to test eee kernel as well.
Addendum: I put it through all menu items, including shutdown. Works fine.
Jake
Thanks for clarifying that. If you want pretty menu icons, check out RoxMenu that I linked to above, it's absolutely gorgeous.
You can fix the Restart X menu entry by editing /usr/bin/restartwm. Go to the end of the file and delete the pound signs that are in front of the last three lines. Save it, and it should start to work.
Kernels are coming next week probably. My ultralight eee kernel is nearly ready. I also was planning on basing a general netbook kernel on the Moblin config (we can tweak this to work on non-atom netbooks).
Here are the hotkeys for Flwm
You can fix the Restart X menu entry by editing /usr/bin/restartwm. Go to the end of the file and delete the pound signs that are in front of the last three lines. Save it, and it should start to work.
Kernels are coming next week probably. My ultralight eee kernel is nearly ready. I also was planning on basing a general netbook kernel on the Moblin config (we can tweak this to work on non-atom netbooks).
Here are the hotkeys for Flwm
Alt+Escape Pops up the menu with the current window preselected
Alt+Tab Pops up the menu with the next window preselected
Alt+Shift+Tab Pops up the menu with the previous window preselected
Ctrl+Tab Switch to the next desktop.
Ctrl+Shift+Tab Switch to the previous desktop.
Ctrl+Function key Switch to desktop N.
Alt+Up Raise the current window.
Alt+Down Lower the current window.
Alt+Delete Close the current window (same as clicking close box).
Alt+Enter "Iconizes" (hides) the current window.
Alt+PgUp and Alt+PgDown Maximize and Unmaximize
Trying it on a fresh 4.30 install. Like it!
Funny the max XY buttons! It's possible to change buttons position's? When window's title is too big, get's out it... On top there's more space.
Can it be colourize?
Seems to be functional. Not so good looking, but gain space from no taskbar.
I don't remember: are you for any type of taskbar or pwidgets likes?
Funny the max XY buttons! It's possible to change buttons position's? When window's title is too big, get's out it... On top there's more space.
Can it be colourize?
Seems to be functional. Not so good looking, but gain space from no taskbar.
I don't remember: are you for any type of taskbar or pwidgets likes?
T_Hobbit
:idea: Rebuilding old DOS Machine for Wing Commander Privateer and Puppy :!: Old spare parts to give away - anyone interested :?:
:idea: Rebuilding old DOS Machine for Wing Commander Privateer and Puppy :!: Old spare parts to give away - anyone interested :?:
The buttons can be moved, but you need to recompile; where would you want the buttons to be?
Yes the titles don't always fit, but vertical space is more necessary than long titles on a small screen.
The colors match your gtk-theme - theres a theme switcher is on the menu. There are 4 themes to choose from.
You can install pwidgets from the repository if you like. I personally prefer gkrellm - I can make you a package if you need one.
Also check out Rox Panel:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=47280 This is what Fluppy will ship with.
Yes the titles don't always fit, but vertical space is more necessary than long titles on a small screen.
The colors match your gtk-theme - theres a theme switcher is on the menu. There are 4 themes to choose from.
You can install pwidgets from the repository if you like. I personally prefer gkrellm - I can make you a package if you need one.
Also check out Rox Panel:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=47280 This is what Fluppy will ship with.
The effect is really subtle because most of the stock gtk themes are grey. You change the gtk theme and the fltk widget scheme separately. If you download some extra themes from the repository, here's what flwm can look like. I think it's very neat how the window manager frames look like they are a part of Rox.
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It would take a good bit of work to get Flwm to play nice with modern pagers and taskbars. It's on my list of things to do, but not near the top. In other words, it's not EWMH compliant.
You need to run flwm as 'startflwm' to get the theme change thing to work. Otherwise changing the theme will kill X. I'm not sure if you ran it manually as plain 'flwm' or if it's screwing up for other reasons.
You need to run flwm as 'startflwm' to get the theme change thing to work. Otherwise changing the theme will kill X. I'm not sure if you ran it manually as plain 'flwm' or if it's screwing up for other reasons.
Hi, jemimah,
Is it just me or have you noticed that the newer kernel/and/or/4.3 in 4.3Final raises the eee temperature by several degrees Celsius? In comparision to Puppy 4.1 kernel?
With wifi toggled off and cpu at 12%, running no app other than wine/MS Word 97, the machine eventually goes up to 55C. Whereas in 4.1, I would be b/w 50-52C.
Jake
Is it just me or have you noticed that the newer kernel/and/or/4.3 in 4.3Final raises the eee temperature by several degrees Celsius? In comparision to Puppy 4.1 kernel?
With wifi toggled off and cpu at 12%, running no app other than wine/MS Word 97, the machine eventually goes up to 55C. Whereas in 4.1, I would be b/w 50-52C.
Jake
I never ran 4.1 so I'm not sure, although I have been annoyed that it seems to suck more watts than Ubuntu. I need to boot ubuntu with my puppy kernel and see if it's the kernel or the xserver that makes the difference or if it's just in my head.
You can get a better idea of this with powertop. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=31290
When I post my kernel you should get a better process listing out of powertop and perhaps be able to spot the issue.
You can get a better idea of this with powertop. http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=31290
When I post my kernel you should get a better process listing out of powertop and perhaps be able to spot the issue.
I'm pleased to announce that I've discovered a viable laptop-friendly network manager that will run on Puppy! It turns out wpa_supplicant comes with its own gui tool that has a nice systray applet which handles auto-connecting, and roaming with ease and speed, and notifies you of network changes, and just plain works without a lot of headaches. It sounds like wpa_supplicant would only support WPA, but it supports open and WEP networks too. The drawback is that it needs Qt, but in my opinion, the tradeoff is very worth it.
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Does it say somewhere what the maximum size is?
Here are some pix of the applet in action. It doesn't have fancy animations, but it does the job.
Here are some pix of the applet in action. It doesn't have fancy animations, but it does the job.
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