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#81 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Fri 17 Oct 2014, 13:19

Iguleder wrote:It's a 100% static binary

crazy question but why would you with a Gtk2 app?Loading time? when its already quick. Static QT apps sure, but why GTK? after 2-3 static bins installed, you already have enough room to install GTK2.
ttuuxxx

01micko · #82 Post by **01micko** » Fri 17 Oct 2014, 13:31

ttuuxxx wrote:
Iguleder wrote:It's a 100% static binary
crazy question but why would you with a Gtk2 app?Loading time? when its already quick. Static QT apps sure, but why GTK? after 2-3 static bins installed, you already have enough room to install GTK2.
ttuuxxx

It's different to a static qt app in that a static qt app has qt builtin statically but still depends on glibc and a bunch of other stuff, but Iguleder's apps (all of them for RLSD) are built statically from the ground up with musl-libc (musl-libc has similarities with uclibc and diet-libc), so no dependency on glibc. Kind of like the progs in the initrd.gz need to be static because there is no glibc in the initial ram disk. The reason? Ask Iguleder, but it seems a cool thing to do if for nothing else than the exercise

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Iguleder · #83 Post by **Iguleder** » Fri 17 Oct 2014, 13:57

This is kinda off-topic - I use static linking to reduce memory consumption and size.

What I was trying to say is that XZ compression does wonders. There's no reason to stick with gzip for new packages. In this specific case, the static Beaver binary is 1.4 MB and the XZ-compressed package is around 400K.

EDIT: how come 64-bit distros are an "exclusive club", when in fact, Puppy is the only distro in the DistroWatch top 15 that hasn't joined it yet?

bigpup · #84 Post by **bigpup** » Fri 17 Oct 2014, 18:57

ttuuxxx,

GREAT to see you back!!!!!

One thing I feel I need to say and this will be the last time I say it.

If you ask "What Do You Think"

We will tell you just that

I hope you understand that what we tell you is trying to help.

It is information and ideas for you to think about.

That is ALL!!!!!!!!!!

Hopefully, it will all help you to make a very good version of a ttuuxxxified Puppy.

All versions of Puppy are very much the product of the developer and what he/she wants.

As an example:
Slacko Puppy is very much 01mickofied.

Go for it and enjoy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bigpup · #85 Post by **bigpup** » Fri 17 Oct 2014, 19:15

As for 64bit version or 32bit version.

Ideally both would be very nice.

I am on the fence as to which one is better.

32bit
Has a lot of supporting and already out there programs that are 32bit.
Works on any computer.
Proven build-able, stable, with Woof-CE.

64bit
Kind of new to building with Woof-CE.
In fact, not sure if a proven stable 64bit version of Puppy has been built with Woof-CE, yet.
Slacko64 was the first real test and it is still alpha status.
Programs are suppose to be faster.
Programs would need to be made/converted for 64bit.
At present, not a lot of 64bit programs, in Puppy kennels, for people to use.

raffy · #86 Post by **raffy** » Fri 17 Oct 2014, 19:46

Asus X101 eeepc laptop with Atom N2600 processor is not so old but can't support 64-bit. Maybe I'm missing something?

bark_bark_bark · #87 Post by **bark_bark_bark** » Sat 18 Oct 2014, 00:07

Forget 32bit vs 64bit

The real problem is that the majority programs and games never make any use of multi-core processing. They always use one. Really having any multi-core processor is pointless.

DC · #88 Post by DC » Sat 18 Oct 2014, 07:41

Re: 64bit

The only up to date flash is pepper flash and that's only available in 64bit at the moment (latest I know).

dc

sszindian · #89 Post by **sszindian** » Sat 18 Oct 2014, 10:27

Back in thread:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=63512

there were some nice 'add-ons' that seem to be forgotten. Would be nice to see these run again in your new build if possible???

>>>---Indian------>

cthisbear · #90 Post by **cthisbear** » Sat 18 Oct 2014, 23:56

Good to see you back.

One left from centre.
I know nothing about this myself.
Is it more for music only.

Real time kernel...as in Puppy Studio.

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Real-time operating system

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real-time ... ing_system

Raspberry Pi real-time kernel SD image

http://www.emlid.com/raspberry-pi-real- ... -download/
Chris

Volhout · #91 Post by **Volhout** » Sun 19 Oct 2014, 18:16

raffy wrote:Asus X101 eeepc laptop with Atom N2600 processor is not so old but can't support 64-bit. Maybe I'm missing something?

This is my most recent pc, and i was screwed. No accelerated drivers for linux, so the 64 bit is a minor thing compared to that. Do you want it Raffy...

cthisbear · #92 Post by **cthisbear** » Sun 19 Oct 2014, 21:04

Boot up menus....more newbie options.

I can't understand why we can't have more boot options,
with a small explanation...say for Nvidia etc.

And why can't they be numbered?

I'm sure that one of the first Japanese Puppies had this feature of
more commands.

Chris.

cthisbear · #93 Post by **cthisbear** » Tue 21 Oct 2014, 09:32

http://bkhome.org/news/?viewDetailed=00086

Barry has added Softmaker Office to Quirky

" FreeOffice is very nice, but requires a license key to use.

I have setup the PET so that there is link to the SoftMaker website
to acquire the license key. "

Chris

B.K. Johnson · #94 Post by **B.K. Johnson** » Tue 21 Oct 2014, 21:37

It's a 30 day Trial version. You will need a license after, so ....

B.K. Johnson

buti · #95 Post by **buti** » Thu 23 Oct 2014, 07:23

For simple text editing there is also RtfEdit.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=88501

Not open source but at least free and lightweight (1MB compressed).

With Ted crashing constantly and AbiWord having its issues as well, it might be an alternative.

#96 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Thu 23 Oct 2014, 07:51

buti wrote:For simple text editing there is also RtfEdit.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=88501

Not open source but at least free and lightweight (1MB compressed).

With Ted crashing constantly and AbiWord having its issues as well, it might be an alternative.

Yes that's a nice alternative but I don't think it opens .doc files, most files these days sadly are doc or docx. That's my only issue with it, we could find converters for file formats, but people would be limited to saving as rtf and then converting,
Really as this distro progresses, I could revert to a older stable version of abiword, I don't remember all of them being unstable.
ttuuxxx

buti · #97 Post by **buti** » Thu 23 Oct 2014, 08:14

Yes, it needs LibreOffice

to be installed for importing/exporting features... then why would one use RtfEdit if libreoffice is installed?

#98 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Thu 23 Oct 2014, 08:21

buti wrote:Yes, it needs LibreOffice to be installed for importing/exporting features... then why would one use RtfEdit if libreoffice is installed?

LoL too funny

ttuuxxx

darry1966 · #99 Post by **darry1966** » Fri 24 Oct 2014, 06:15

Hi Ttuuxxx,

Is OOOlight still going or is it now defunct? would this be too big even with it's cutdown size?

Volhout · #100 Post by **Volhout** » Fri 24 Oct 2014, 10:28

B.K. Johnson wrote:It's a 30 day Trial version. You will need a license after, so ....

B.K. Johnson

Their license policy must have changed. I have FreeOffice license without time limit (for several years already) but my version FreeOffice has degraded functionality. i.e. You can open docx format, but not save as docx. You can save as doc though. I am using it mainly because FreeOffice has a relatively decent presentation manager. Something standard Puppy does not have.

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