Xenialpup CE 7.5 / 25 Nov 2017

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Bird Dog · #521 Post by **Bird Dog** » Sat 09 Dec 2017, 05:07

I have Xenialpup 7.0.8.6 frugally installed to the hard drive of a P4 with 1 gb of ram.. Cups 2.1.3 is installed but when I click on any of the print links (print wizard, cups manage printing etc.) cups opens in abiword which it doesn't do in any of my other pups. Is there a way to fix this in this Xenialpup? Would anyone know if this problem is fixed in the new Xenialpup 7.5, and if it is should I just download the new Xenialpup 7.5 version.

Thanks
Bird Dog

artsown · #522 Post by **artsown** » Sat 09 Dec 2017, 11:37

@ Bird Dog

Run palemoon. Delete whatever is in the url space and type localhost:631 Bookmark this as cups

You may want to simply leave it at that.

Art

bigpup · #523 Post by **bigpup** » Sat 09 Dec 2017, 12:03

entered in error.

bigpup · #524 Post by **bigpup** » Sat 09 Dec 2017, 12:15

Bird Dog wrote:I have Xenialpup 7.0.8.6 Cups 2.1.3 is installed but when I click on any of the print links (print wizard, cups manage printing etc.) cups opens in abiword which it doesn't do in any of my other pups.
Thanks
Bird Dog

Menu>Setup>Puppy Apps Default Application Chooser

See what the HTML viewer is set at.
Set it for the browser you use.
OR
Try setting it to autodetect.

Any help?

bigpup · #525 Post by **bigpup** » Sat 09 Dec 2017, 15:41

Xenialpup 7.5 fresh frugal install with fresh new save.

I am going to report this again, because I have seen several others reporting on this same problem.
Trying to use the Nvidia drivers in Quickpet.

I downloaded and installed the 380 driver.
It is suppose to be the one that supports my hardware. (340 will also)

After reboot driver is not working.

I noticed in startup there is no Nvidia file.
I copied one from another Puppy and rebooted.
(this may be a file Getnvidia makes)

On this boot up I got this error.
See image.

Update:
The next bootup after a complete shutdown.
Booted to screen with warning about x server was not shutdown cleanly.
Ran xorgwizard.
Selected the modeset driver and correct resolution.
Xwin
Booted to a working desktop and it was now using the Nvidia driver correctly, with everything working as it should.
What the @$&!*

That Nvidia file I put in startup could be what caused this to now work.

Bird Dog · #526 Post by **Bird Dog** » Sat 09 Dec 2017, 20:41

@artsown

Thanks for the reply art but I couldn't figure out how to bookmark as cups.

@bigpup

Thanks for the reply bigpup,.I was in the applications chooser but looking for cups. The HTML viewer was set to autodetct so I changed it to palemoon and it works great. Thank you and Art for your help.

Thanks
Bird Dog

jimcraven · #527 Post by **jimcraven** » Sun 10 Dec 2017, 11:19

rerwin asked me to post a request for the ath9k driver in XenialPup 7.5 (32-bit).

You can read about my problem "Unable to get wireless to work on eeePC 1005HA, Puppy 7.5" at

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=976524

I'd be happy to test a new version with the ath9k driver on my Asus eeePC 1005HA with an Atheros Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI).

Thanks,
Jim Craven

jimcraven · #528 Post by **jimcraven** » Sun 10 Dec 2017, 19:19

As a follow up to my previous post regarding ath9k drivers, 666philb provided the solution. See the original post at
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=976787

666philb · #529 Post by **666philb** » Mon 11 Dec 2017, 19:09

don570 wrote:Xenial 7.5 worked well on my IBM thinkcentre desktop

One small fault I noticed .....

I set up a samba server with Samba Simple managment
and by default the share folder is /mnt/home. (see image)

This doesn't exist by default so I had to create it.
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thanks don570,

i've re-uploaded the samba .pets so it'll be fixed in future builds

666philb · #530 Post by **666philb** » Mon 11 Dec 2017, 19:13

bigpup wrote:Xenialpup 7.5 fresh frugal install with fresh new save.

I am going to report this again, because I have seen several others reporting on this same problem.
Trying to use the Nvidia drivers in Quickpet.

I downloaded and installed the 380 driver.
It is suppose to be the one that supports my hardware. (340 will also)

After reboot driver is not working.

I noticed in startup there is no Nvidia file.
I copied one from another Puppy and rebooted.
(this may be a file Getnvidia makes)

On this boot up I got this error.
See image.

Update:
The next bootup after a complete shutdown.
Booted to screen with warning about x server was not shutdown cleanly.
Ran xorgwizard.
Selected the modeset driver and correct resolution.
Xwin
Booted to a working desktop and it was now using the Nvidia driver correctly, with everything working as it should.
What the @$&!*

That Nvidia file I put in startup could be what caused this to now work.

hi bigpup,

i've made some changes to the nvidia driver .pets. can you test these for me
32bit http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... 5-i386.pet
64bit http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... x86_64.pet

666philb · #531 Post by **666philb** » Mon 11 Dec 2017, 19:18

peebee wrote:I'm reporting this here because Xenialpup-7.5 is the most prominent pup affected but this bug also affects 64-bit XenialPup64-7.5 and Slacko-6.9.9.9 both 32 & 64bit. (Does not affect Dpup-Stretch from @radky as that is using an older version of Gnumeric from Precise).

The way to see the bug is to open Gnumeric spreadsheet and put some data into a column. Select the cells containing the data then goto "Search & Replace" in the "Edit" menu.

Search for an item of data and replace by something different - choose Scope=Range. (see attached)

Click "Apply" and Gnumeric instantly crashes with an error like:
(gnumeric:19877): GLib-ERROR **: gmem.c:328: overflow allocating 4294967295*8 bytes
Trace/breakpoint trap

The bug is caused by goffice rather than Gnumeric, and can be cured by reverting the version of goffice to the Wheezy version (for 32-bit systems ***):
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... 0.8.17.pet

32-bit Versions which exhibit the bug include:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... 7-i686.pet

http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... 6_s700.pet

[added-10-dec]
64-bit with bug:
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... pril64.pet

*** Unfortunately, an equivalent fix for XenialPup64 has not been found.

thanks peebee,

using ubuntu's goffice fixes it, .... bugfix coming!

don570 · #532 Post by **don570** » Mon 11 Dec 2017, 23:01

I reported to BarryK about problems with the probedisk command

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 680#976680

Xenialpup was one of the distros I had problems with.
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bigpup · #533 Post by **bigpup** » Mon 11 Dec 2017, 23:39

hi bigpup,

i've made some changes to the nvidia driver .pets. can you test these for me
32bit http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... 5-i386.pet
64bit http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... x86_64.pet

So far I tried the 64 bit one for Xenialpup64 7.5.
No help.
It still does not bootup using the driver correctly.

I noticed the driver pets that seem to work have this file nvidia loaded into the startup directory.
This pet did not have this file or did not put it into startup.
File attached.
Remove the tar from name to see the actual nvidia file.

Update:
I put this nvidia file in startup and rebooted.
Got to a desktop with the correct resolution, but the mouse was frozen up.
So that file helped, but not 100% good.

Update, update:
Tried the one for Xenialpup 7.5 (32bit)
The same problems as above.
So, this one did not work.

charlie6 · #534 Post by **charlie6** » Wed 13 Dec 2017, 08:03

Hi Phil,

on this 7.5 version, gnumerics preview reports in terminal:

Code: Select all

root# gnumeric
/usr/bin/evince: line 13: exec: epdfview: not found

as qpdfview is the onboard pdfviewer, just made the following symlink to fix it !

Code: Select all

ln -s /usr/bin/qpdfview /usr/bin/epdfview

(to mention:
1) on previous versions, it happened that gnumeric asked for evince-previewer; now it claims for epdfview ; now it is evince that claims for epdfview instead of evince-previewer;
2) this xenialpup-7.5 runs like a charm

! )

HTH and have a nice day whatever the weather today

!
charlie

proebler · #535 Post by **proebler** » Wed 13 Dec 2017, 10:39

A curious experience with a xenialpup-7.5 frugal install to USB flash with Grub4Dos boot loader.
I created a small savefile to preserve the localization and some Rox filer options.
I did this on an HP 6930p laptop, then used the USB on an HP-8200 desktop.
It boots on the desktop, using the savefile, but both keyboard and mouse are inactive.
All I can do is to use power off in order to shut down.

I rebooted with pfix=ram, no problem, keyboard and mouse are working ok.
So I then created a new 2nd small savefile, again with settings for localization and Rox options.
With this second savefile I can now boot both on the desktop and on the laptop.

The initial 1st savefile appears to contain machine specific information which makes it unsuitable for the desktop.
I don't think that I have experienced such a thing with a Puppy before.
What is going on?

bigpup · #536 Post by **bigpup** » Wed 13 Dec 2017, 12:20

What format is the partition the save is on?

proebler · #537 Post by **proebler** » Wed 13 Dec 2017, 20:00

bigpup wrote:What format is the partition the save is on?

the partition is FAT32

don570 · #538 Post by **don570** » Thu 14 Dec 2017, 00:29

proebler wrote:I created a small savefile

The name of the save file is important if it is stored on a FAT32 partition
because FAT32 doesn't allow certain symbols like ":"

Avoid these...

" * ? . , ; : / \ | + = < > [ ] signs

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proebler · #539 Post by **proebler** » Thu 14 Dec 2017, 12:15

I have now used the USB on two more machines; I booted with pfix=ram and then crated savefiles in the same manner as described in my previous post.
The machines are a HP P4 desktop and a HP 8460p laptop (i5).

Now I have 4 very similar savefiles to use.
Two were created on (different) laptops, the other two were created on (different) desktops.
All 4 savefiles were created from the same system xenialpup-7.5 , run from the same frugal install on the one USB and saved to the same FAT32 partition on that USB.

On the two laptops all 4 savefiles work together with the base system.

On the two desktops the two savefiles created on desktops work together with the base system.

On the two desktops the two savfiles created on laptops will lead to a booted system with no input possible from either keyboard or wired (USB) mouse.
That the savefile does get loaded is evident from the desktop appearance and also from the way the (forced) shutdown takes place when the power button is pressed.
Meaning, that the option whether to save or not to save is presented (having set the system up in that way).
It is interesting to note, that at that point the keyboard does become active, i.e. allowing me to use arrow and Enter keys.

The kernel line I use is pmedia=atahd pfix=fsck psubdir=/some_subdir

No disallowed characters are used in the name of the savefile(s).

mikeslr · #540 Post by **mikeslr** » Thu 14 Dec 2017, 17:49

I'm surprised that bigpup hasn't responded yet. Perhaps he was exaggerating when he told me he never sleeps.

At any rate, he --or someone else-- may be able to provide a better understanding of what may have caused your 'curious experience'.

Edited: wrote laptop a couple time meaning to write USB-key.

Xenialpup's system resides on your USB-Key. The SaveFiles you create on a laptop don't work when you try to use them on a desktop.

According to your last post, "The kernel line I use is pmedia=atahd pfix=fsck psubdir=/some_subdir ".

If I take this at face value, that's the kernel line you have on your USB-Key used for your laptop. I have to wonder how you created them. If you installed grub4dos to your usb-key and ran it to create a menu.lst on that key, it would have created a kernel line like the following:

pmedia=usbflash pfix=fsck psubdir=/some_subdir ## emphasis supplied.

With pmedia=atahd as the boot argument on a USB-Key, I would have expected that the effect would have been either to prevent booting or to ignore that improper argument when booting from the USB-Key. But, perhaps it did more, somehow enabling you to boot while instructing Xenialpup that you have a peculiar system. That peculiarity may have been incorporated into the Savefile. When you later try to boot using the SaveFile lacking that peculiarity, the curious effect you noticed may be the result.

Just guessing.

Try creating a SaveFile from your Laptop after booting into it with the kernel argument

pmedia=usbflash pfix=fsck psubdir=/some_subdir

and see if that SaveFile is usable on your Desktops.

Alternatively, don't include your customizations of rox in the SaveFiles you create on your laptops and see if such SaveFile is usable on your Desktops.

mikesLr

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